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Fox' Bolling on Obama proposals: "Free markets, RIP"; Gary Smith: "inching closer ... [to] old Soviet Union"

June 20, 2009 2:55 pm ET

From the June 20th edition of Fox News Channel's Bulls & Bears:

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    • Author by Dem02020 (June 20, 2009 3:24 pm ET)
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      Yeah I know exactly what this hack means... just this morning, I had to stand in a line that was a mile long, and I waited for three hours, just to buy a roll of toilet paper... and after seeing how long the line was for cheap worthless shoes, I said screw it, I'll go barefoot.

      This regulatory reform, and the soviet America it's turning us into, has me wanting to defect.
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    • Author by mk3872 (June 20, 2009 3:29 pm ET)
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      DAMN! No more free-wheelin' free markets??

      CRAP! Here I was looking forward to the NEXT big economic meltdown & recession!

      Great, way to go No-bama ...
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    • Author by Max Credits (June 20, 2009 3:36 pm ET)
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      The food court at my local mall has, since Obama became President, been offering but 11 dining options. Potential choice number 12 remains boarded up with the false promise of "more choices coming soon". Bolling is right! Come on already!!!
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    • Author by seroquel (June 20, 2009 3:47 pm ET)
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      Gee, I coulda sworn the free market cost money to play in.
      What a stupid concept, and stupider people on our airwaves.
      Can't we replace these morons with people who have no agenda?
      I'm so sick of the lies, innuendo, and bias.
      Since when did freedom of speech mean spewing propaganda or outright lying?
      This network(Fox News) is doing a version of yelling fire in a crowded theater.
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      • Author by mjh (June 20, 2009 6:30 pm ET)
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        "Since when did freedom of speech mean spewing propaganda or outright lying?" - seroquel

        Since a Florida appeals court said so . . .
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        • Author by mescal (June 20, 2009 9:53 pm ET)
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          Thanks, mjh. This was a shocking decision, and this information cannot be repeated often enough. A legal ruling that the conscious telling of lies, and the ongoing and willful commission of public fraud is a corporate constitutional right is downright mind blowing.

          On the other hand, how else is the Faux News Channel supposed to remain on the air, if they're to be unreasonably restricted to actual news and truthful facts rather than their preferred recipe of willful lies and fanciful propaganda.

          Jeez, but H L Mencken didn't know the half of it.
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    • Author by TJ_rex (June 20, 2009 3:52 pm ET)
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      You mean, no more getting screwed by Wall Street? No more watching the fascists rape my retirement fund and walk away with millions in bonuses? No more having them tell me it's healthy to watch my job being shipped to Taiwan?
      I think I'm going to need a hanky.
      Now, if they would only start hanging themselves.....
      No wait, I want to send them my medical and insurance bills so we can't let them leave just yet!
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    • Author by Dem02020 (June 20, 2009 3:57 pm ET)
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      On a serious note, truly, what specific regulation or regulatory reform is it, that has these people so threatened that they think we're going soviet?

      Seriously, force the discussion into a sharper image... make people state their fears and angst in specific detail...

      Right this very moment I'm trying to think of some proposed financial regulation or regulatory reform that will impact me adversely, something that will make my life harder, unbearable even... something that bites into my paycheck or my savings...

      My savings, or even my 401(k) account...

      Are the proposed regulatory reforms going to impact my 401(k) adversely, or are they going to protect and even insure that type of savings?

      These media hacks and their general vague fearmongering, it's all just the weaseling of salesmen and liars and thieves...

      These media hacks, they should be specific and name a single proposed regulation or reform that's bad for the American People... or they should just shut up about it.
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    • Author by TJ_rex (June 20, 2009 3:57 pm ET)
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      Wait, isn't Fox already acting like the old Soviet Union? I mean they are the official propaganda channel of the Republi-con party.
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      • Author by mjh (June 20, 2009 6:41 pm ET)
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        No kiddin'. I mean, every time I hear one of these idiots blabbering about how the US is "inching towards the old Soviet Union" -- or Nazi Germany, or whatever repressive regime-du-jour they wanna use -- I have to wonder:
        just WHAT is the similarity that caused them to make that comparison?

        Is it gov't wiretapping of its own citizens without their knowledge or approval?

        Is it consolidating power in a "Unitary Executive"?

        Is it a military interventionist solution to every foreign policy matter?

        If so, I'm inclined to agree -- but also to remind them, hey, ya got the wrong administration . . .
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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (June 20, 2009 7:01 pm ET)
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          If so, I'm inclined to agree -- but also to remind them, hey, ya got the wrong administration . . .
          Yes. Remember:

          "This would be heck of a lot easier if this was a dictatorship, as long as I was the dictator" --George W Bush
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          • Author by juliajayne1 (June 21, 2009 7:02 pm ET)
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            Bill Moyers had a great show on May 29th that dealt with torture. The USA, under George W. Bush, used many Soviet style torture techniques. So these ninnies squealing about going the way of the Soviet Union regarding anything, whether it be financial matters or torture, are a little late, eh?

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    • Author by Disputed Zone (June 20, 2009 5:14 pm ET)
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      Not that this guy is right, but after the last eight years wouldn't just inching towards the old Soviet Union be a major improvement.
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    • Author by mefirst (June 20, 2009 9:22 pm ET)
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      "free markets" brought us to the financial meltdown we've seen in the last year. whether it was the stock market crash of 1929, allowing people to buy stocks by merely putting up a portion of the purchase price, the savings and loans mess under reagan, and this latest fiasco, they were all caused by the fact that business could not behave. it was making money by moving paper around, essentially a house of cards, and then the taxpayers have to bail these idiots out.
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      • Author by wookie (June 21, 2009 6:56 am ET)
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        Free market is a fairly subjective meaningless term that means whatever the bosses want. There wasn't such gloom and doom when Bush the dumber shut down the docker workers strike and reclassified workers so they wouldn't get overtime pay. Or when he rewrote bankruptcy laws at the urging of the credit card companies.
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    • Author by pros2pros2940 (June 21, 2009 11:20 am ET)
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      We don't have unfettered free markets in the US and blandly saying "free markets" doesn't make it so.

      We have regulated markets that oversee many things but unfortunately nobody wanted to end the party.
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    • Author by Bad News (June 21, 2009 11:45 am ET)
         
      Most people would pack up and leave a Country if they feel their Country is falling towards communism.

      Does anyone know this mans travel plans?


      Mr. News
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    • Author by latanza (June 22, 2009 11:57 am ET)
         
      These free markets seemed to have policies of glutony and if that doesn't work piracy with cooperation at the government level.


      Say it aint so. That is why we have these fraudulent companies, failed Savings and Loans, and these ficticious wars. We were broke and we needed some money. Don't talk smack because you may get smacked with the truth.
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    • Author by blueline99 (June 22, 2009 2:26 pm ET)
         
      Stop comparing us to the old Soviet Union... that argument is purly for inflamatory reasons. It's what you say when you do don't have a cogent thing to say.

      We don't need new regulation, we just need to repeal all the de-regulation that Bush did. There was a time that Banks did banking and were not allowed to do anything else.
      Insurance companies did insurance and nothing else.
      Brokerage firms traded stock and nothing else.

      Our problem came when "innovators" and "schemers" took risks and decided that bundling mortgages into these derivates was a good idea. Then brokerage firms traded these derivatives. Then AIG needed a new "product" to sell and came up with insurance for these derivatives.

      The problem was, nobody really understood how this all worked, and as long as housing values kept rising and interests rates were low, everybody made money and nobody cared.

      But when the bubble burst, and brokerages and banks were leveraged 40-1, the house of cards came tumbling down.

      Regulations that were in place 20 years ago would have prevented this all from happening. Going back to the rules of the 80's doesn't seem to be much like the Soviet Union
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