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Stephanopoulos asks: "Is President Obama being Reaganesque enough?"

June 21, 2009 1:22 pm ET

From the June 21 broadcast of ABC's This Week:

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    • Author by mk3872 (June 21, 2009 1:27 pm ET)
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      Oh, yuk, I think I'm gonna lose my lunch ...
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    • Author by pros2pros2940 (June 21, 2009 1:47 pm ET)
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      What? Reaganesque ?

      You mean secretly fund killers in Latin America ?

      Sell arms to Iran to fund the effort ?

      Backdoor negotiations to free hostages ?

      Lie to the American people ?

      Lead all Presidents with 32 convictions of his administration ?

      Double the national debt ?



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      • Author by mjh (June 21, 2009 3:58 pm ET)
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        Have the largest staff [590 persons] of any US president?
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      • Author by juliajayne1 (June 21, 2009 6:44 pm ET)
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        We'll hope Obama doesn't ever become Reganesque.

        November 13, 1986 (in his first public statement about the allegations of secret arms-for-hostages negotiations with Iran)

        "In spite of the wildly speculative and false stories of arms for hostages and alleged ransom payments, we did not -- repeat did not -- trade weapons or anything else for hostages nor will we."



        March 3, 1987 (from a televised address in which he admitted to the findings of the Tower Commission)

        "A few months ago, I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not."
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        • Author by mjh (June 21, 2009 7:08 pm ET)
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          "A few months ago, I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not."


          TRANSLATION: "Yeah, I did it -- and yeah, I got caught. SFW??"
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        • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (June 22, 2009 12:39 am ET)
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          See, he had his heart in it...

          He wasn't just some frikkin' democrat who hates Jesus. The American people have become like little 2-year olds.
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      • Author by 3rdParty (June 22, 2009 1:53 pm ET)
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        "What? Reaganesque ?

        You mean secretly fund killers in Latin America ?

        Sell arms to Iran to fund the effort ?

        Backdoor negotiations to free hostages ?

        Lie to the American people ?

        Lead all Presidents with 32 convictions of his administration ?

        Double the national debt ?"        --by pros2pros2940

        Actually, most of what you just posted was the result of VP CIA Bush and ALL of his cocaine cronies' dirty work. Including Bill Cocaine Clinton, his Arkansas Mena Airport, his ex-trooper buddy LD Brown, Barry Seal, etc...
        Bush's connections went far deeper than Ronald Reagan's. The Conservative Mob used Reagan because they knew he would win the hearts and minds of the people in a John Wayne type of way. Then they hijacked Reagan's presidency.
        Bush was the CIA man, not Reagan.
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (June 22, 2009 4:04 pm ET)
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          BS. Reagan was not Bush Jr. and Bush Sr. was no Dick Cheney. Reagan KNEW what the hell was going on. If Bush had the CIA contacts, Reagan used Bush as much as (or far more than) the other way around. Why do you think his biggest in-party rival got tapped to be VP? As to your Clinton connection? Give me a link or I'm calling 'paranoid conspiracy theory' balderdash.
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          • Author by mjh (June 22, 2009 9:17 pm ET)
               
            Exactly. I'm curious as to how Clinton could be involved in a deal to trade arms for hostages in a middle eastern country -- while in the Governor's Mansion in Arkansas.

            Then again, its always been a favorite theme of the right to hold Clinton responsible for the actions of all subsequent administrations {until Obama was elected, anyway} -- so, I guess it was just a matter of time before he would be held responsible for the actions of a PREVIOUS one.

            What's next, blaming Clinton for Pearl Harbor?
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            • Author by NiceguyEddie (June 23, 2009 10:53 am ET)
                 
              Nah... That was all Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayer's fault.
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          • Author by 3rdParty (June 23, 2009 4:04 pm ET)
               
            I've attempted to reply with links but still waiting to see it appear on the board.
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    • Author by captfoster2 (June 21, 2009 2:32 pm ET)
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      "Is President Obama being Reaganesque enough?"

      As long as Obama's poll numbers keep going lower.... then yes, Obama is being like Ronnie Ray-Gun!

      As soon as President Obama starts acting like Senator (in campaign mode) Obama... then his numbers will climb.

      I just wish President Obama would understand that...
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    • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (June 21, 2009 2:58 pm ET)
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      "Is President Obama being Reaganesque enough?"
      No, Obama still has all his mental faculties. When Obama starts mistaking movies for real life, he'll be Reaganesque.
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      • Author by mjh (June 21, 2009 4:03 pm ET)
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        And, when Michelle starts feeling the need to consult an astrologist in order to conduct her daily life, Obama will be more Reganesque.
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        • Author by goesto11 (June 22, 2009 11:43 am ET)
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          And when Michelle has to start feeding Barack answers under her breath during news conferences.....
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          • Author by mjh (June 22, 2009 1:29 pm ET)
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            Hey, that's pretty good -- we could start a Jeff Foxworthy-like "You might be Reaganesque if . . ." thing.

            Like, "If you talk about 'traditional family values' when you're the first divorced man to become president, you might be Reaganesque."
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            • Author by goesto11 (June 22, 2009 3:12 pm ET)
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              If you believe trees are responsible for air pollution, you might be Reaganesque....
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              • Author by Quill2006 (June 22, 2009 3:53 pm ET)
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                If you ignore a massive health crisis because it's broken out among homosexuals and is therefore retribution from God, thereby allowing it to spread worldwide within your two terms in office and infecting millions within 20 years, you might be Reaganesque...
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    • Author by Jim Rockford (June 21, 2009 3:06 pm ET)
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      The problem is Reagan wasn't Obama-esque enough. (To talk in the Stephie's inane terminology.)
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    • Author by jbraskin4786 (June 21, 2009 4:04 pm ET)
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      Boy, I hope not.
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    • Author by MickD (June 21, 2009 5:24 pm ET)
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      Nice reference coming from someone who worked one administration and four years away from RR's least effective years.

      Oh, and btw Georgie, Reagan left office 20 YEARS and light years in technology and information ago.

      It seems no pundit wants to take the facts into consideration when lionizing the B actor.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (June 22, 2009 9:23 am ET)
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        I never could have convinced anyone of this at the time, but I actually always thought that the elder Bush was a better president than Reagan. I'm not sure how he would have been with a second term, and [the republican'] reign would have ended as soon as Dan Quayle was at the top of the ticket (kind of a 1990's Sarah Palin) but as much as I liked Reagan (hey: I was 7 when he was elected, and even at 7 I knew that things were f-ed up under Carter!) I actually liked Bush'41 better.
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    • Author by nativeofsf (June 21, 2009 6:13 pm ET)
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      Gee Georgie, just how can President Obama become Reganesque? He ain't got no fat, flabby as, you dumb schmuck.
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    • Author by katherinef (June 21, 2009 6:48 pm ET)
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      Oh, for goodness sake. You'd think Reagan was running again. HE'S DEAD. DEAD. This isn't like "Candyman" where you say his name three times and he comes back, HE'S DEAD.
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    • Author by dlkincaid1946 (June 21, 2009 6:58 pm ET)
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      What a stupid question? Reagan emptied the mental institutes, demolished PATCO unions - What are you talking abou?
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    • Author by Ribelin2000 (June 21, 2009 11:17 pm ET)
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      Reaganesque?

      Yeah, like Reagan was the greatest man to ever walk the planet!!!

      More like America's most overrated President if you ask me.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (June 21, 2009 11:32 pm ET)
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      George, check your calendar...it's 2009. Many voters don't even remember Ronald Reagan. And those who continue to envoke Reagan's memory are living in a time warp.
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      • Author by jjamele2880 (June 22, 2009 10:08 am ET)
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        People who try to evoke Reagan's memory are remembering a Reagan who Never Was- a Reagan who shrank the government, effectively projected American strength around the world, balanced the budget, and got Roe v. Wade overturned. They worship THAT Reagan, and never you mind that he never existed.
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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (June 22, 2009 10:21 am ET)
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          Reagan is just as real as the "Leave it to Beaver" and "Father Knows Best" 1950's "golden era" the Neoclowns keep wanting the country to return to.
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (June 22, 2009 1:07 pm ET)
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          EXACTLY!!! They Reagan they descibe just ain't the Reagan I REMEMBER. Not by a damned sight.
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      • Author by coldteablues19577325 (June 22, 2009 1:02 pm ET)
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        Ermmmmmm, maybe where you're from they don't, but there are plenty people in plenty of places who DO remember Reagan and still LOVE him. I'm not one, but I know plenty of folks who STILL idolize him.
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (June 22, 2009 3:59 pm ET)
             
          OK, but be honest: Are they idolizing the man or the myth?
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    • Author by Bad News (June 22, 2009 9:11 am ET)
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      President Reagan move over.


      Mr. News
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (June 22, 2009 9:17 am ET)
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      Yes George. He IS. In fact he's doing better than Reagan. So stop wettng yourself. Chill the f--- out. He's got this.
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    • Author by latanza (June 22, 2009 11:43 am ET)
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      And neither does he have to be!
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    • Author by newzhound (June 22, 2009 1:37 pm ET)
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      Does Mr. S. mean President Obama should send the US Marines into a country to serve as security guards? And get them slaughtered without a fight?

      Should President Obama tell a tear-jerker World War II story based on a movie he watched?

      Should President Obama get elected to a union and then sell out his members for pennies on the prospective dollars?
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (June 22, 2009 3:42 pm ET)
           
        Should President Obama host Death Valley Days and hawk 20 Mule Team Borax?
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    • Author by bilbo_dies (June 22, 2009 3:40 pm ET)
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      I always like the comment that Reagun helped to bring down the Soviet Union. Uh,,,,, only in that by throwing money at Star Wars project he gave the Soviet Union more reason to spend money they didn't have on defensive systems, thus maybe moving the fall of the Berlin Wall up a couple of months. No matter who was in office at the time, the Soviet Union was going to collapse, it was just a matter of when.

      Although I will give Reagun his due. He was the best actor who has served as POSTUS.
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