Scarborough, Brzezinski, and Matthews have heated discussion on health care reform

Holy Joe always gets offended when someone calls or labels him a "right-winger". Why are teabaggers so offended to be labeled as "Republican" and/or "Right-Winger"?

We need health care reform a.s.a.p


Mr. News

Why does Scarborough talk so slowly? It's like he's doing an Adam West impression.

***APPLAUSE***

Way to go Chris. Joe was twisting himself into a pretzel.

Chris is right. It's a matter of values. If you care about people getting health care when they need it, you don't make excuses not to do this. You work for a good plan.

Why all this concern about costs by the right wing now, for this sort of plan they have always been against on principle. The cost thing is a phony excuse. Cost wasn't an issue for them when it was a matter of going in and fighting Moslems in Iraq.

It's about values. The right wing values war to assert America around the world as more important than assuring all Americans can get needed healthcare.

Wow... this is awesome...
Health Care in this country is as important as Chris Matthews says and he's calling out those who oppose it. Every industrialized nation in the world provides health care for all... it's a right not a benefit.

If someone doesn't believe that, then they are going to fight it no matter what the package looks like.

If we can get everyone in this country to agree (and 72% of this country does) then I agree with Chris Matthews, let's just get it done. The US didn't haggle over the costs of sending a man to the moon, our leaders decided to do it, the nation rallied around it and it got done.

This is the same type of situation. Let's get everyone to agree that it needs to be done and then just do it and leave the minority who oppose this on the side of the road. And let's start calling them UN-AMERICAN for not supporting health care for all.

just get it done...
i dont like the poll that their showing cause it asks if people are concerned, of course people are concerned bad word to use. ask polls if they want it or if they should get it done...

I am struck by Mika's and Joe's grossly inaccurate characterization of President Obama's thoughtful approach to health care reform.

Mika: "I don't want the answer [to health care reform to be] "Well, something has to be done. Let's just throw money at it."

Has she not paid any attention to President Obamas approach to health care reform?

Joe: "You are sitting here telling us, unless the federal govenment steps in and takes over healthcare, the president's a loser and you are a right-winger for being concerned that the federal government being involved in something may actually drive up costs."

Uh, no, Joe. Matthews never said or implied anything of the kind. (Also, note the "may" drive up costs. Might lower them, too.)

(BTW, why didn't Matthews challenge him on this idea that anyone is proposing a "government take-over of health care?" Yes, a public plan would include some government involvement, but a "takeover?" That's a scare word. And then Joe has the temerity to call for a "nuanced" discussion?)

Of course it is one thing to be concerned costs (and who would not be?), and it is another thing for that concern to have a basis in facts. Aren't these two supposed to be journalists? Apparently, they are not even well-informed Americans.

In fact, President Obama impressively addressed the question of the costs of health care reform at his town hall meeting in Green Bay, Wisconsin (where he was very well received -- another fact not much reported) But (as noted here) the mainstream media failed to cover the substance of his remarks.

Another gross mischaracterization from Joe: "Let's just do it and don't ask any questions."

Uh, not even close, Joe. Since when have we not asked questions?

Did Joe and Mika not hear about the White House Summit on Health Care reform, where President Obama invited questions and hosted discussions, and where probably every conceivavble viewpoint was represented?

Of course, Mika and Joe failed to address the main point of Matthews' argument: we have put off health care reform for decades now and we simply cannot continue to do so any longer.

As President Obama has said (even if the media fail to adequately report it), health care reform is a moral issue we simply cannot afford not to address.

These phonies have the nerve to stage their pretend news show in a starbucks and claim to have credibility? That Joe can't make the intellectual jump Matthews is requiring of him to answer his questions is not surprising. The first, really only, thing these people are interested is the money. As Joe is going down for the third time he manages a glimpse of clarity and squeaks out 'it's immoral', then goes right back to carping about the money.

Joe, if it's immoral but you are OK with it as long as you can protect your pot of gold, what kind of person does that make you?

Here's what i don't understand, the defense budget is 500 billion a year, so why don't we take 200 billion from that and put it into health care reform. No one has suggested doing anything like this, and i'm starting to wonder why. Joe and Mika keep asking where are we going to get the money, but their's no mention of cutting defense to pay for health care. This is what Matthews was trying to say; if we don't do it now then when? Joe doesn't want it because he still calls himself a conservative and " i talk about Bush's spending in my book" what a joke. Mika goes along with Joe because she doesn't understand the conversation. Someone out their explain to me. why we can't take some from defense and put into health ?

When did Mika and Joe ever talk about bush Spending? When, someone tell when they had any type of conversation about Bush before the election between Obama/McCain. Even during the election their was no real discussion.

Joe Scarborogh's National Health Care Plan:

First, drink Starbucks every day.
Second, well, actually, that's as far as he has got.

But maybe he is working diligently on coming up with something to provide the 47 million Americans with no health care coverage and not just being another nay-sayer. Probably not though.

I just have to say this. I've seen the movies about healthcare. And I hear the REAL stories coming from Canada and Britain about how their medical coverage is the greatest thing since sliced bread. And it makes me wonder...

If I am sick and I need medicine. Why should I have to pay a monthly premium and a deductable to get that medicine? Shouldn't the doctor at the hospital say "Ok you need this medicine. Go to the Pharmacy on the first floor and get it."

Just my take