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Kondracke on Sanford: "The Democratic Party is a lot more tolerant of licentiousness than the Republican Party is"

June 24, 2009 8:38 pm ET

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    • Author by juliajayne (June 24, 2009 8:58 pm ET)
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      Yeah, ever'body knows us Liberals is so much lustier, libidinous, and licentious than them multi married Repubs. Pfft...

      Wasn't Newtie gonna try and make a run for Prez? And wasn't McCain not only married twice, but had an affair? I could be gettin' all this wrong of course.

      And what about that Julie guy...hmmmn, fergit 'is name.....?

      Yez sir, them Republicans are such arbiters of virtue, no dang doubt.
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      • Author by LuvLuLu (June 24, 2009 10:22 pm ET)
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        What those on the left are less tolerant of is hypocrisy. That's what this is all about. We don't think that every episode of marital infidelity is evidence of a total lack of character, and we don't claim to be holier than thou. Both Ensign and Sanford said that Clinton should resign for a casual bj. They both had significant love affairs that lasted months. But neither one of them are resigning. If Clinton should have resigned, then they both should resign.

        And who wants to guess what we would have heard from Sanford if the citizens of South Carolina weren't lucky enough to have a good reporter who travelled to Atlanta and waited outside the gate for the plane that was coming in from Buenos Aires to see if Sanford was going to be on it? Anybody think he would have come clean if she hadn't been there, and hadn't let his staff know that they had incriminating emails? He lied to that reporter when she met his plane - he only came clean later on when it was clear he had no plausible deniability anymore!
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        • Author by tman418 (June 24, 2009 10:43 pm ET)
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          We need to give every Republican caught in an affair or unfaithful sexual act the same treatment Clinton was given.
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          • Author by twseattle (June 25, 2009 4:18 am ET)
               
            Turn the whole government into a gotcha machine?
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            • Author by tman418 (June 25, 2009 3:25 pm ET)
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              No. Just until we get adequate revenge...with a little interest.
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (June 24, 2009 10:54 pm ET)
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        But, JJ...Republicans go to church and love baby Jesus. They're against killing babies. They're so pro-family they even have their own lobbying groups with the word "FAMILY" proudly in the names. And none of them are actually gay...not really gay. Their embarrassing incidents are simply twisted by the liberal media to make them look gay. And as for divorce, the churches wouldn't allow them to remarry if divorce was such a big deal. And, look, David Vitter went to prostitutes because he loved and respected his wife too much to ask her to have fancy sex with him.
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (June 24, 2009 9:10 pm ET)
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      "Do what I say, not what I do." Larry Craig
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    • Author by mk3872 (June 24, 2009 9:14 pm ET)
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      WHAT!?!?! What an a**. Nothing like letting your naked advocacy for the GOP to come through in your striking "analysis", Kondracke.

      Yeah, just like Dem Gov Spitzer, who resigned or NJ Gov McGreavy. Both cheated and both RESIGNED!

      Then there's Ensign and Vitter who are adulterers and have solicited prostitutes yet the Repub party LETS THEM STAY IN OFFICE!
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      • Author by pete592 (June 24, 2009 9:29 pm ET)
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        Vitter and Ensign were both welcomed back by their Republican colleagues with hugs and applause. Yeah, The GOP have little tolerance for those who don't live up to family values.
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        • Author by wookie (June 24, 2009 9:36 pm ET)
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          Because they aren't gay. They moral values shtick only seems to kick in for gays.
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          • Author by snoopy (June 24, 2009 10:14 pm ET)
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            Oh, I don't know. I recall we have a republican senator or representative from florida who was outed, he's still in orifice - oops, I meant office...
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          • Author by Ankhorite (June 25, 2009 12:59 am ET)
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            Naw, the Republicans in the Senate kept on lovin' Larry Craig, the Republican senator from Idaho who solicited a male cop in an airport bathroom.

            They felt funny about it, but they didn't do anything to drive him out of office. That "R" after his name bought him automatic support, even if they wouldn't want him marrying their brother.

            Vitter. Ensign. McCain. Craig. Giuliani. Congressmen Dan Burton, Mark Foley, Henry Hyde, Bob Barr, Bob Livingston, Newt Gingrich. All of these known adulterers, widely reported in mainstream publications, all men with no respect for their own marriages, are men who have voted against gay marriage; against abortion rights; against access to contraception; against accurate sex ed for teens.

            Yet we know that Barr, for example, drove his wife to an abortion clinic, paid for the abortion, and drove her back home, because he planned to divorce her and marry his mistress. Henry Hyde broke up his mistress's marriage and left her three kids fatherless while he kept her in an apartment (which we still don't know who paid for), while neglecting his own wife and four kids. What do you suppose Hyde would have done if she'd turned up pregnant?

            And Hyde, now deceased, is still lionized as a hero of the Republican "pro-family" party. Nothing, nothing, nothing actually means anything to the Republican Party but trying to maintain power. And their continued awkward embrace of Larry Craig through the end of his term proved it.
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    • Author by captfoster2 (June 24, 2009 9:20 pm ET)
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      Huh...

      Did anyone catch Mort saying that Mark Sanford was at one point going to be the right-wing candidate (listen carefully between the 6th and 9th seconds)

      The multiple affairs attack on Clinton was never actually verified... it was assumed by the right-wing attack dogs and their little whores in the corporate owned media.

      As for liberals and/or the Democratic party being more tolerant about affairs may have more to do with the obvious that liberals and Democrats rarely if ever go out of their way to push an agenda of family values and morals in public while screwing their campaign workers or interns in private than it does about liberals and Democrats condoning it...

      That's called hypocrisy... the mantra of today's Republican party.
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      • Author by dimes (June 24, 2009 9:32 pm ET)
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        Speaking of hypocrisy...

        did Sanford confess because he was genuinely contrite, or because the local paper told him they were about to publish embarrassing emails he wrote to his lover?
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        • Author by mjh (June 24, 2009 9:52 pm ET)
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          From comments in The State {SC} that published excepts of the emails online:


          ladycricket4life wrote on 06/24/2009 09:35:54 PM:
          Does the State Newspapaer realize that having these personal and private emails is against the law??? How did you get them and is our Atty General filing suit against you for hacking, invasion of privacy, and who knows what other laws you've violated. Do you really think you are above the law??


          I'll bet ladycricket loudly protested Dumbya's warrantless wiretapping as loudly as she's protesting this . . .

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          • Author by LuvLuLu (June 24, 2009 10:28 pm ET)
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            The reporter for "The State" newspaper says that they got them anonymously. There's no law against them having those emails. She only wishes there was, so that the bad guy (Sanford) could go free.

            I betcha she doesn't want terrorists to go free just because the Bush Administration violated our laws, our Constitution, our treaties and international law by torturing suspected terrorists.

            But she's okay with us making the newspaper which received the anonymous incriminating emails the bad guy here.
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        • Author by jonesjax2374 (June 24, 2009 10:37 pm ET)
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          That speech was shockingly robotically unremorseful. He didn't seem sorry at all to me. Just stating the facts for the press. He got a little teary talking about his friend, not his family. I could care less if he resigns or not - private affairs. But the hypocricy and the perhaps spending tax payers bucks to go to Buenos Aires (and what, exactly is the purpose of trips there for South Carolina?) is a different question. His emails were embarrassingly stiff as well. What a robot.
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          • Author by Jurgan (June 25, 2009 1:03 am ET)
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            I don't care much about the affair, but I've wanted Sanford to resign for months. I don't care about his personal life, and I hope his family isn't hurt by this, but I'm more concerned about the state. I had the privilege of voting against him twice, futile though that was, and then I got to watch him refuse to take stimulus money for public schools, including the one I work for, so he can show off his conservative credentials for 2012 primary voters. I don't know much about Lt. Gov. Bauer, other than he's also a Republican and likes to get speeding tickets, so I don't know if Sanford will resign or if it will matter in the long run. He's term-limited (I think), and he only had a year and a half left anyway. My hope is he'll be so busy trying to save his own ass that he won't have the energy to ruin our state anymore. Then maybe we can get someone good in 2010.
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      • Author by snoopy (June 24, 2009 10:16 pm ET)
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        Yes, it is true. It's also true that Newt is considering a run. Yeah, that intolerant republican party...
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    • Author by teabaggers ♥ [wing]NUTS (June 25, 2009 3:01 am ET)
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      this guy makes liberals look really bad... every one of them on fox are whimpy apologists a la alan colmes. rarely, if ever, do they stand up for what they believe in, or they just end up agreeing with the conservatives they discuss with. i especially cant stand baier's program because it tries to pretend to be bringing on a fair panel of people, but its a total crock. even baier himself is a partisan hack. he doesnt necessarily attack obama or democrats, but he cites baseless claims (as MMfA has documented), and to still try and remain fair, he doesnt inject much of an opinion, and just insinuates it to try not to look partisan. and any moron would just assume that he is simply reporting something when its obviously untrue. its just like fox news sunday, but the "liberal" there is juan williams, and the supposed "democrat" chris wallace pretends hes "fair and balanced", and is always bashing the party he supposedly claims to be a part of. plus, wallace only claims to be a democrat because "there is really only one party".
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    • Author by Bad News (June 25, 2009 4:53 am ET)
         
      Not in my Home, or my Church, or my Community.


      Mr. News
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    • Author by magnolialover (June 25, 2009 7:55 am ET)
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      Hey Kondracke, actually, we're not. Guess what? When Clinton got caught cheating, I, like many other liberals that I knew thought it was grotesque, and appalling, but I didn't think he should resign from office because of something that he did wasn't illegal.

      Spitzer was a different story. I thought he should resign because he DID engage in an illegal activity, soliciting prostitution. It wasn't because of his cheating, it was his illegal act I had problems with.

      Ensign? I don't think he should resign because of his cheating. I think he should resign because he was so holier than thou when passing judgement on Clinton, same for Sanford.

      It's the hypocrisy stupid.

      Also, look at Clinton. Still married. Spitzer? Still married. Seems as though democrats actually have better family values than republicans as they are able to work through their hard times and stay married.
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