Fox's Johnson Jr. claims health care reform is "the government deciding who will live, who will die"

Too stupid to comment on.

Quick note...had an uncle who was on his death bed and the hospital wanted to perform a few more tests informing the family of the necessity of these "tests". I was pulled aside by a couple nurses and, in confidence, informed that these "tests" could do nothing to extend life. The tests were more of less practice and had nothing to do with my uncle.
Mr. Johnson,Jr. (R), maybe this is what the President is talking about. Why not get off the dole of Fuax and look into this type of fraud.
An to quote Mr. Johnson Jr.,"Is that what this plan is about? To save money by killing old people?" Don't you realize sir, that this is what is happening now.

It's the American People, by way of their government, deciding who will have Health Insurance... and the decision is all of them, all of them shall have Health Insurance, all of the American People can and will have Public Health Insurance.

That's what it is.

I'd rather have the government deciding who will live and who will die than someone looking after their profits, which is what we have now.

I'm sure more than a few insurance companies have saved money, and their profit margins by "killing" off some old people.

I have seen this fool on Fox making the most bizare statements. They are totally without any fact or information to back them up. It seems that he is in a contest with other Fox on air people to see who makes the biggest fool of themselves. I can say he is in my opinion, leading the pack. Who in their right mind would hire a fool like this to represent them in court. I wouldn't even let him handle a traffic ticket for me, I would probably wind up in Gitmo next to the Shoe Bomber.

Right now profit-drive insurance companies decide who will live, or who will die.

Seems to me, about the best we can hope for from all this hoopla, is a guarantee to the medical industry that the 47 million without health care will be paid for, eventually.

a comprehensive national health care plan vs a for profit medical industry? One might be curious to ascertain just how much has been doled out to maintain the present system in current state of disrepair over the years since Truman. see: November 19, 1945 President Truman Addresses Congress on Proposed Health Program, Washington, D.C.

Had a good doctor once, seemed more interested in his new procedure for fixing hernias than he was in me tho. Mostly I was concerned about taking up his time, he seemed a very busy man.

Fox News is so reactionary it's absurd. Was there a chance that they would reasonably listen to the plan and discuss it intelligently or was it their plan all along to look for items that would make good scare tactics.

If someone would say, right now hospitals are "extending peoples lives" based on their health coverage. If the patient's insurance will cover it, the doctor's will recommend it... I guarantee you that if the patient had reached their cap or the insurance company wouldn't cover it, that treatment wouldn't be recommended.

Is that better? Fox? Do you want the valuation of peoples lives and medical treatment based on their insurance carrier?

Everything that Fox and others are trying to scare us with, is happening now!

What our president was explaining is that terminally ill patients frequently incur more medical costs in the last sixty days of life than they did in their previous seventy-five years of living, COMBINED.

I doubt that any doctor would give up on a patient who had even a slim chance of surviving. But there comes a point that prolonging life is more cruel than letting the person slip away.

This is what the president meant, and you know it. Please stop embarrassing yourself with transparent distortions. You are an educated gentleman. Demonstrate it.

Fox News: The Network that still can't assign a "R" by a Republicans name during a scandal.

Credibilty?


Mr. News

This talking point has made it from the crackpot talk radio crowd to the airwaves in record time.

Logic is not a strong suit. If universal health care resulted in the government choosing who will live and die, wouldn't those countries with universal coverage have shorter life expectancies than the US, which, of course, has the best health care in the world? Oddly, that's not the case at all. Those countries with universal care often have longer life expectancy, not shorter.

If you didn't see and hear it, you couldn't possibly think it existed.
Fox, misinforming America since, well, everyday.

This is technically true. If the gov is the insurance provider who has to approve or reject procedures that might save someone's life they will eventually have the power of life or death in their hands. What this Johnson doesn't tell you is that under the current system for profit insurance companies have that same power. I don't know about anybody else but I'm more comfortable with that sort of decision being in the hands of someone who doesn't have a profit motive. But that's just me. Since the public option is just that (an option) people who would rather have those decisions made by companies which have an incentive to reject claims will be free to do so.

I have been debating whether to post this or not, but here goes…
When I deployed to Afghanistan, my family switched to Tricare Standard (government health insurance run through Humana Military Healthcare Services). Her Ob/Gyn would not accept Tricare. She was reluctant to switch from a doctor that she has seen since she was 16 but did so anyway.
When she went to a new doctor and filled out the medical history and he found out that her mother and aunt had both had breast cancer (her mother at 36), he ordered a mammogram even though she was only 34. This possibly saved her life. They found pre-cancerous cells and she had a bilateral mastectomy.
We had a family deductable of $1000.00. We have paid not one cent more than that for her recovery, including breast reconstruction and follow-up blood work.

Tricare Standard was free while I was deployed. We now have Tricare Reserve Select which cost $180.27 per month.
Everyone in the US should have this level of care.

He should be asked to elaborate..............
How so...........
What in the policy design or public/private option says that? Is there some fine print like in the HUD policy of housing that is predatory? As a matter of question, how much real estate do you own Johnson Jr.?

My father was diagnosed (after test after test) on May 9th with an inoperable brain tumor. He wanted no heroic measures, no feeding tube and a DNR. He died as peacefully and painlessly with his 2 daughters and wife by his side on May 18th. Why would he, or us for that matter, have wanted to extend his pain any further?