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Beck asks Bachmann "the odds" the gov't will fine those who don't complete census, says he's "considered" not filling it out

June 25, 2009 6:56 pm ET

From the June 25 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

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    • Author by tokenredguy (June 25, 2009 7:05 pm ET)
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      WTF is wrong with these people? isn't this there a law against encouraging people to break the law? What purpose does this serve?
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    • Author by DAWUSS (June 25, 2009 7:06 pm ET)
         
      Glenn owns a gun?
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    • Author by vonbargen9388 (June 25, 2009 7:11 pm ET)
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      "Beck and Bachmann" sounds like a 2d rate lounge act in Vegas. On inspection, however, one realizes they're "Dumb and Dumber." Minnesota can't afford two comedians. She's got to go!
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      • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (June 26, 2009 4:22 am ET)
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        I normally don't like to correct grammar in someones description of these two, but don't you think "Dumbest and Dumbest" is a bit more apt.

        After all can you help me out which one is just "Dumb" ?
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    • Author by blueline99 (June 25, 2009 7:14 pm ET)
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      It's true that the government used the Census info to identify the Japanese Americans at the start of WWII...
      My parents were in the Tule Lake and Manzanar.

      But Reagan also gave Reparations to the Japanese Americans who were in the camps and admitted it to be one of the greatest social injustices this country has seen.

      Funny for them to be bringing this back up, because it's the conservatives who are willing to repeat this tragedy (Michele Malkin) in the name of security when it comes to Arabic Americans.

      I can't believe that anyone could fight the Census, we've done this every 10 years since we became a country. How is this bad?
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      • Author by cindy & little ricky (June 25, 2009 11:46 pm ET)
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        how much are you willing divulge about what is happening in your house?
        my privacy

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      • Author by shaggles (June 26, 2009 10:59 am ET)
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        Michelle Malkin doesn't consider the Japanese internment to have been a mistake. She will go on and on about it if anyone lets her.
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    • Author by harley (June 25, 2009 7:15 pm ET)
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      Cumulative IQ between those two = -12
      Cumulative paranoia between those two =
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    • Author by worrierking (June 25, 2009 7:15 pm ET)
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      Oh, the wattage in that room.

      If Hannity had walked in, the three of them would equal a lightning bug.
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      • Author by historygeek001 (June 26, 2009 12:38 pm ET)
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        Why do you insist on underestimating lightning bugs? I'll go along with the three of them equalling some kind of glowing fungus...
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    • Author by blueline99 (June 25, 2009 7:24 pm ET)
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      I keep hearing how Progressives are UnAmerican
      Barrack Obama's speech to the Mideast was UnAmerican

      But from what I can tell, the only people in this country who are openly disobeying our constitutional laws are the Right Wing Nuts.

      I'm not going to fill out the Census
      I'm for Texas secession
      I'm a Tea Bagger

      Who are the ones that are disobeying our laws, mocking the Constitution and advocating the overthrow of our government!

      I think I need to review those Sedition laws and see what some legal scholars say about some of these NeoCons!
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    • Author by tokenredguy (June 25, 2009 7:25 pm ET)
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      Ok... wait. So she is upset that we don't put in a part in the census so we can identify and then round up illeagal immigrants with that info, but then goes right around after that and tried to scare people that we might use that info to .... owww my head hurts.
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    • Author by magnolialover (June 25, 2009 7:36 pm ET)
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      Hey, Mr. Scaredy Cat (that's you Glenn),

      Don't fill it out. You don't have to. It's not a requirement, and it's not a law for citizens to take part in it. It's a requirement of our Constitution that the government counts everyone every 10 years, but it's totally optional for you.

      You're an idiot, and Bachmann sitting next to you? Not much better. Ms, "I think we need to investigate democrats for un-American activities".
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      • Author by cindy & little ricky (June 25, 2009 11:41 pm ET)
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        yo mister Magnolia Lover,
        Glenn Beck has been saying for 5 years - WHOA!
        DON"T SPY ON ME
        give me my freedom and I can do GOOD!
        by the way - what's your social security # ?
        who lives in your house?
        what is the anual wage of everyone that lives in your house.
        are they white - black - mexican - indian - pakistani - afgan - hindu - muslim - christian - jewish?
        let me know please.
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        • Author by worrierking (June 26, 2009 9:53 am ET)
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          Thanks for clearing that up.

          I was under the impression that Beck supported the invasions of privacy authorized by the Bush administration.

          And remember how we were always told that if we have nothing to hide we have nothing to worry about?

          I seem to have a vague memory of that. I also remember being called a traitor and un-patriotic, by those on the right, for not supporting the government from 2001 to 2009.
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        • Author by magnolialover (June 26, 2009 11:04 am ET)
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          What? You don't think the government has that information on you already? Ever filed a tax return? Ever had a driver's license? Ever fill out a credit application?

          I don't have a problem providing that information. I don't live in fear like some of my right wing friends.
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      • Author by lizziewoot (June 26, 2009 2:18 am ET)
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        I'm glad to see that someone is using their brain. Love your show Glenn!
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      • Author by tbone (June 26, 2009 9:16 am ET)
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        Sorry, not so much.

        Responding to the Census is required by law. If you fail to complete and return the questionairre, a census worker will come to your home and try and collect the data.

        Don't believe me, www.census.gov
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    • Author by smarshall1432997 (June 25, 2009 7:40 pm ET)
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      So, Republicans think that people should "BREAK" the law when the numbers will "NOT" add up for them in Elections. Remember how Rush Limbaugh was telling voters to cross parties to cause "chaos" in the Democratic Presidential Primary? Now here is an American Republican Congresswoman, Rep. Michelle Bachmann, "proudly" speaking of how she will do this because she is a concerned Republican. Wow.

      FoxNews and Republican Rep. Michelle Bachmann "proudly" told viewers that it's ok to "BREAK" American Laws" if you are a bitter, sore looser Republican. Must be nice.
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      • Author by cindy & little ricky (June 25, 2009 11:55 pm ET)
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        maybe when the numbers don't add up because YOU don't want the solders votes counted or because the Acorn registered voters are counted twice. maybe there is as problem?
        i say bring everyone home for a week and vote?
        what u think?
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        • Author by worrierking (June 26, 2009 9:56 am ET)
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          Solders? Lead or tin?

          Why not bring them home for good?
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        • Author by magnolialover (June 26, 2009 11:07 am ET)
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          And you have proof that ACORN registered voters (you can't really differentiate who was registered by who by the way - and anyway, local voter registrars do the registration, not ACORN) were counted 2x? No? Didn't think so.

          You have proof that soldiers, whom I know many of, didn't get their votes counted? No? Didn't think so (hint, most if not ALL of the soldiers I know and talk to ALL voted for Obama).

          Bring everyone home and vote? Vote in what? The census is not a vote.
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          • Author by robyn20094113 (June 27, 2009 2:37 am ET)
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            Maybe conservatives/republicans don't vote. They sure do not seem to understand how it works. They do not understand the difference between voter registration and VOTING. They do not seem to know that you need identification to vote. Or how the votes are counted.
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    • Author by Cpt.FancyPants (June 25, 2009 7:45 pm ET)
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      The best part of this interview: Beck admits that this fine has never been enforced before going off on a two-minute segment in which he considers what will happen when it is. <groan>
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    • Author by CommonSense (June 25, 2009 7:48 pm ET)
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      The constitution is clear on the census:"Representation and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers ... . The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct."

      It is their respective numbers, not their phone numbers, race, household income, time for leaving work, etc. If the government wants to ask and the people want to answer it, that's great. But by no means should people be forced to give information by fine or jail time, even when your being investigated for a crime you have the right against self incrimination.

      And honestly, bring back the Sedition Acts? What in the world is wrong with you, we had enough of these type of things under Bush, there is no need to continue it. Forget your dang parties and return to the real world where they're both screwing us over.
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    • Author by magnolialover (June 25, 2009 7:48 pm ET)
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      Bachmann is a NUT!

      Isn't she from Minnesota? Can the same state that produced Garrison Keillor produce this whack-a-doo? I mean Minnesota had Jesse Ventura, but he was just pretty fun, and not completely and utterly insane like Bachmann.
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      • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (June 26, 2009 12:18 pm ET)
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        calling BACHMANN a nut is too generous, BRAIN DEAD IDIOT i think would be more accurate.
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    • Author by CommonSense (June 25, 2009 7:57 pm ET)
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      You can call it breaking the law, or you can call it civil disobedience. People understand what will happen if they don't fill it out, and as long as they are willing to face the consequences of their actions to make a point great! The comments on this site should really tone down the hate, you look as insane as Rush Limbaugh.
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      • Author by Tbone Slickens (June 26, 2009 9:24 am ET)
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        Remember, civil disobedience is just fine when it's being employed by the left. Loudly cheered even.
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        • Author by nerzog (June 26, 2009 10:39 am ET)
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          Except by the Troglodytes, who Loudly proclaimed that it was "hurting the troops".

          You know it's true.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (June 25, 2009 8:40 pm ET)
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      Once again, Glenn is advocating rebelling against the government, it is one small, true, but still a rebellion. He is also fomenting fear and smearing ACORN and Federal workers. And Michelle Bachmann is an embarassment to the Congress, her state and her party.
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    • Author by kfraz43 (June 25, 2009 10:38 pm ET)
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      What a cute couple. THAT picture should have been the cover of the movie "Idiocracy".
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    • Author by kellytore (June 25, 2009 11:47 pm ET)
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      The census in 1940 only asked how many people lived in your household. Because of this there is no way the war powers act used the census to round up Japanese citizens. Do these Fox clowns think that no one out there will verify the lies they tell?
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      • Author by blueline99 (June 26, 2009 10:33 am ET)
           
        You are wrong...
        The government used the Census of 1940 to identify Japanese Americans for the internment camps.
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        • Author by magnolialover (June 26, 2009 10:50 am ET)
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          List of the questions used on the 1940 census.

          Census questions

          I could see where they could have used said data to round up the Japanese Americans during WWII, but the question is, did they use the data to do it? That's the answer I don't know.
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          • Author by blueline99 (June 26, 2009 4:03 pm ET)
               
            Census blamed in internment of Japanese

            Scholars study wartime bureau

            Friday, March 17, 2000

            By STEVEN A. HOLMES
            THE NEW YORK TIMES

            WASHINGTON -- Two scholars say in a new research paper that despite earlier denials, the Census Bureau was deeply involved in the roundup and internment of Japanese Americans at the onset of U.S. entry into World War II.

            The academics say the Census Bureau's involvement included identifying concentrations of people of Japanese ancestry in geographic units as small as city blocks, lending a senior Census Bureau official to work with the War Department on the relocation program and a willingness to disclose names and address of Japanese Americans.

            While it is common today for the Census Bureau to publish reports that detail the number of people of a given race living in an area as small as a city block, such information was generally not available in the 1940s. But the authors of the paper contend that the Census Bureau provided such detailed information as well as age, sex, citizenship and country of birth to the War Department, now the Defense Department, on only one group -- Japanese Americans.

            In 1941 and '42, the paper says, Census Bureau officials believed that such information was valuable to the War Department's effort in rounding up Americans of Japanese ancestry.

            The paper, "After Pearl Harbor: The Proper Role of Population Data Systems in Time of War," was written by William Seltzer, a statistician and demographer at Fordham University, and Margo Anderson, a history professor at the University of Wisconsin in Milwaukee whose area of expertise is the census.

            Seltzer and Anderson plan to present the paper at the annual meeting of the Population Association of America next week in Los Angeles.

            The practices described in the paper did not appear to have violated laws governing the census, which prohibit the bureau from disclosing information on individuals. But the authors indicated that Census Bureau officials appeared to be willing to provide such data. What is not clear is whether they were asked to do so.

            "We're by law required to keep confidential information by individuals," the paper quotes the director of the Census Bureau, J.C. Capt, as saying at a meeting of the Census Advisory Committee in January 1942. But if the defense authorities found 200 Japanese Americans missing and they wanted the names of the Japanese Americans in that area, Capt said, "I would give them further means of checking individuals."

            The Census Bureau often boasted that its conduct in the relocation of Japanese Americans had been its finest hour because it resisted pressure to provide explicit data to the War and Justice Departments.

            But Census Bureau officials do not dispute the findings of the paper. They say, however, that the strengthening of the laws protecting the confidentiality of data on individuals and the environment today would make a repeat of those abuses unlikely.

            Japanese Americans have long suspected that the Census Bureau played a prominent role in the roundup and relocation of 120,000 residents of Japanese ancestry to detention camps in the interior.

            "We've always suspected this," said Norman Mineta, a former California congressman who was relocated with his family from San Jose to a detention camp in Wyoming. "After all, they are the keeper of this kind of information."

            On Dec. 9, 1941, two days after the attack on Pearl Harbor, the Census Bureau produced a report titled, "Japanese Population of the United States, Its Territories and Possessions." The next day it issued a report on the Japanese population by citizenship and place of birth in selected cities. The next day it published another report, this one on the Japanese population by counties in states on the West Coast. All reports were based on data from the 1940 census.

            Capt justified the speed with which the bureau produced these reports by saying at meeting of the Census Advisory Committee in January 1942: "We didn't want to wait for the declaration of war. On Monday morning we put our people to work on the Japanese thing."

            The United States declared war on Japan that Monday afternoon.
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    • Author by snoopy (June 26, 2009 1:09 am ET)
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      I liked how Batsh!t bachmann earlier today claimed the census was used to round up the japanese americans to put them in the WW2 detention centers. I'm pretty sure I recall Bachmann's mom going "dere's one o' dem slanty eyed people reich there! Get em, occifer!"
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    • Author by pam95650 (June 26, 2009 1:17 am ET)
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      I didn't fill out the survey, but the census person did call the house. It's not big deal. I don't know what they are afraid of. Did they fill out the census last time? I'm sure there's nothing different this time. What a bunch of losers.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (June 26, 2009 8:38 am ET)
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      Again - I hope that these idiots get ALL thier conservative buddies to boycott the census. Then they can sit around and wonder why they've lost representatives in the House. Idiots.
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    • Author by nerzog (June 26, 2009 8:55 am ET)
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      John Edwards was right... there are two Americas. People who believe lying douchebags like these two, along with Limpdog and Pat Robertson, and those of us who slap our foreheads in bewilderment that anybody could be so gullible.
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    • Author by aocasio463507 (June 26, 2009 9:34 am ET)
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      These are the kind of mindless twits that broadcast and govern the republican party while their intellectuals are out there extorting the world of their wealth. These are the D students who's rich parents bought their degree's and positions, or who think that by kissing up to the wealthy they may move up from white trash to a position in the county club.
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      • Author by nerzog (June 26, 2009 10:41 am ET)
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        who think that by kissing up to the wealthy they may move up from white trash to a position in the county club.


        I think you may have identified the phenomenon which explains why so many working class Republicans repeatedly vote against their own self interests.
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      • Author by NdlovukaziThor (June 26, 2009 2:40 pm ET)
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        Except for those that don't have degrees.
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    • Author by shaggles (June 26, 2009 11:07 am ET)
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      I don't understand what all the fuss is about. The gov has been taking the census every 10 years for decades. What has suddenly changed to make everyone so upset about it now?
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      • Author by magnolialover (June 26, 2009 11:09 am ET)
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        Because the Evil Obama is doing it.
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        • Author by shaggles (June 26, 2009 11:27 am ET)
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          The last census was during the Clinton admin (not exactly Mr Popularity with the Cons) and even then I don't remember anyone get all bent out of shape about it. This is just weird.
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        • Author by aocasio463507 (June 26, 2009 11:35 am ET)
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          Another mindless twit, what about the 4,000 dead America men and women and over 600,000 Iraqis and Afghans that Bush is responsible for killing for the greed of the corporations.
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    • Author by SMTDL (June 26, 2009 11:45 am ET)
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      If the citizens of her district continue to elect this bigoted,narrow minded alarmist,they deserve the ridicule for their district and state.Why isn't she an embarrassment to anyone there with an IQ over 50!!!!!? She is certainly the gift that keeps on giving!!With so many contestants for dumbest Republican comments she still wins ...easily!!!
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      • Author by BillJ-MN (June 26, 2009 12:13 pm ET)
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        Crazy Michele's always had the nutjob ideology, but it's been fairly recently that she's discovered that going off the deep end puts her in the limelight. She represents a fairly oddly-shaped, very conservative district north of the Twin Cities. I lived for three years in St. Cloud, one of the larger cities in her district, and the thing that struck me most about it was how casually and unashamedly racist so many of its residents were willing to be. That was over 20 years ago, so they may not be as racist as they were (or maybe not as overtly racist) but her hard-core support up there makes me think those roots run deep.

        I truly believe that her craziness makes her stronger with much of her constituency. We can only hope that the region attitudes are shifting. Regardless, it's considered likely that MN will lose a representative after the next census so redistricting will be necessary. If we can have a Democratic legislature and Governor we'll probably be able to break up that district and dilute the craziness.
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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (June 26, 2009 12:09 pm ET)
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      Can we legally deport these two clowns to a real police state like, say NORTH KOREA or IRAN?
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      • Author by Jorge (June 26, 2009 12:21 pm ET)
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        Good for Bauchman. Please all you in her district: DO NOT FILL-OUT the census form. I guess I'll go ahead and say it (her constituents probably don't access MM): under-counting residents in her district will lead to redistricting, with her district being subsumed by one or two others. Smart woman that lady!!
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    • Author by manndan (June 26, 2009 1:44 pm ET)
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      Bat guano bonkers. Both of them.
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    • Author by eecee (June 26, 2009 4:21 pm ET)
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      What a bunch of dishonest hooey.

      If Beck had bothered to do a 10-second Google search, he'd know that it could not possibly be "ACORN members coming to your door." It will federal employees, screened, hired, and trained by the Census Bureau.

      ACORN is one of 250+ census "partners" whose sole job is to recruit APPLICANTS for census worker jobs. Period.

      Buckner said the bureau received an overwhelming number of qualified applicants -- more than 1 million -- for the 140,000 census taker jobs filled to complete the first phase of the effort. Each applicant, he said, must take a basic skills exam, which includes reading a map and entering data into a handheld computer. Applicants are also subject to an FBI background check, he said.


      Fox News (yes, Fox News)
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