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Kristol: "the serious, 'realistic,' policy on Iran now is now to help accelerate 'regime change' "

June 28, 2009 11:15 am ET

From the June 28 edition of FOX's Fox News Sunday:

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    • Author by Conchobhar (June 28, 2009 11:32 am ET)
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      I'm quite sure Obama is "capable of re-thinking his Iran policy in the light of changing reality." I just hope he doesn't take any advice from any of the PNAC crowd, who have shown no such ability.
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    • Author by jbrantow (June 28, 2009 11:36 am ET)
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      Kristol spouts a lot of tough guy talk for a chicken hawk coward.
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      • Author by Conchobhar (June 28, 2009 11:41 am ET)
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        True. I thought Brit Hume, in this clip, was at his most brilliant.
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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (June 28, 2009 1:50 pm ET)
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          Hume, at his most brilliant, is still not very bright.
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          • Author by teabaggers ♥ NUTS (June 28, 2009 4:40 pm ET)
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            hume is at his best when he bores the hell out of you, which is almost always.
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          • Author by Conchobhar (June 28, 2009 5:42 pm ET)
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            I was referring to the fact that, in the first clip, he just sat there, looking like he was drooling.
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            • Author by National_Insecurity (June 29, 2009 1:39 am ET)
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              Oh.
              By brilliant I thought you meant he remembered to put his sippy cup out of frame.

              Seriously though, giving these doofuses (per Merriam Webster) the time of day is a waste of electrons, photons and Higgs particles. When in 8 years has Kristol been correct? And Hume wouldn't know how to perform diplomacy if it were in his IFB and on the TelePrompTer at the same time.
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      • Author by teabaggers ♥ NUTS (June 28, 2009 4:41 pm ET)
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        all the ones from fox news are cut from the same cloth... just senseless cowards.
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      • Author by Pinhead (June 28, 2009 7:07 pm ET)
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        the good news is that he no longer has any influence over the whitehouse.
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      • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (June 28, 2009 7:34 pm ET)
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        "tough talk for a chicken hawk coward."Truer words were never spoken.Krystol has that typical NEO CON mentality, all we have to is threaten force and our opponents will buckle to our will.Of course he never put his neck on the line when he had the oppertunity. This guy is a waste.
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    • Author by overmars jr. (June 28, 2009 11:50 am ET)
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      Oh, sweet Christmas, he's stuck on this song again. Who else, Bill? Who else should we fight?

      This guy is in his own reality half the time. Not only that, he was for everything Bush did, then after it went to hell, he said "well, it wasn't done right".

      Good grief, man.

      We are getting a lot of this: <
      What we need from you is this: _
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      • Author by Conchobhar (June 28, 2009 12:41 pm ET)
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        Let's be fair to Wild Bill. When he felt we were weakening on Iraq he called for sacrifice, and he led from the front, sacrificing his credibility.

        (All right, there are those, myself among them who will argue that he had no credibility to lose. But why let facts get in the way of a good, er, decent (?) joke? We certainly didn't let them get in the way of a disastrous war.),
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    • Author by raymond_usaret@yahoo.com (June 28, 2009 12:50 pm ET)
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      Will someone tell me what is up with juan Williams and Brit Hume,seem to me that they really don't like each other,or am i missing something here? I'm retired army,living here around ft,stewart,ga,i can tell you first hand,i see it daily,our military
      forces are about at their limit and the rightwing would like more.When this country (usa) start paying out all those claims that our young soldiers will be making from going to the war zone back to back, maybe they will change their tune. All the Va.doctors can do is sign the checks.
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    • Author by jmj (June 28, 2009 1:14 pm ET)
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      So, Billy, are you gonna send qanother son or daughter to the war zone as you did(n't) before. Chickenhawk jerk
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    • Author by Cosmic Surfer (June 28, 2009 1:26 pm ET)
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      Kristol isn't a Conservative - He is a Neo-Con of the first order. A card carrying member of the PNAC and learned Straussian NewSpeak at his daddy's knee. Kristol and the other members of the PNAC have been beating the drums for perpetual war for decades. They were the instigators of the War on Iraq (Nov, 1998, Weekly Standard http://www.newamericancentury.org/AttackIraq-Nov16,98.pdf, Push for Clinton to attack and take out Iraq by the PNAC; 1998 in WaPo http://www.newamericancentury.org/AttackIraq-Nov16,98.pdf) and now pushing to keep it going with Iran (http://www.iran.org/news/WP_961211.html, 1998; http://www.newamericancentury.org/iran-20050316.htm, 2005)...next, I am sure, will be Syria
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    • Author by natroneous (June 28, 2009 2:19 pm ET)
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      Bill "Armchair Warrior" Kristol back yet again. I didn't join the Marines to go off on this clowns "experiments". I wish the Iranians luck but I'm not going to die for their "freedom". And I wouldn't expect any american to do that.
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    • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (June 28, 2009 2:51 pm ET)
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      I'm surprised Kristol's head didn't erupt in flames when he tried to say something that was "serious" and "realistic."
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    • Author by zamfir273114 (June 28, 2009 6:43 pm ET)
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      Kristol needs to realize that it is because of neo-con scum like himself as well as others in 'dubya's' group that a Republican will probably not be elected into the White House for another 10 years. He should also realize that, hopefully (I pray), Obama will ignore him like the plague and disregard anything he has to say as being irrelevant and dangerous to U.S. interests.
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    • Author by knowlies (June 28, 2009 7:17 pm ET)
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      Yeah, Bill. See last time we mucked around with regime change in Iran it didn't turn out so well for the U.S. in the long run, let alone the Iranian people. Some might say that it actually contributed to our current predicament in that region of the world.

      These guys really can't help themselves, can they? It almost comes off like an addiction or a fetish for them.
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      • Author by AlBundy (June 28, 2009 8:29 pm ET)
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        It's quite clear the Cons want Obama to get aggressive so they can later say what a stupid idea it was by suggesting the wrong information to him.
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      • Author by mjh (June 29, 2009 5:10 am ET)
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        "These guys really can't help themselves, can they? It almost comes off like an addiction or a fetish for them." - knowlies

        Regime change and extramarital affairs: the neoKKKons' two favorite hobbies.

        {Although, they prefer to be active participants only in the latter . . .}
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    • Author by AlBundy (June 28, 2009 8:36 pm ET)
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      It's quit clear the Cons want to give Obama the wrong info so they can say it was such a bad idea/move later. They know dam well the US should stay out of this especially with the wars we are already fighting.
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    • Author by mescal (June 29, 2009 6:08 am ET)
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      In my mind, it's a coin flip on whether herr Kristol is really that stupid or merely soulless in his advocacy of our pursuing a policy of 'regime change' against Iran. Such actions would be certain to blow up in our faces, as well as to tear down all of the international good will that Obama has thus far managed to amass on our account. Doesn't herr Kristol have enough blood on his hands? Hasn't he already gotten enough people killed?

      If anything, such a policy would result in the Iranians vigorously renewing their nuclear arms program. It would also get a bunch of pro-western Iranians arrested and/or killed. Mostly, though, it would result in the Iranian people uniting IN SUPPORT of the current regime.

      The Iranian people remember the 1952 coup... in which the CIA orchestrated the overthrow of their democratically elected government, and the plopping down of the Shah upon the Peacock Throne... as if it were yesterday. They well remember how he followed policies that were pro-US and pro-oil industry, and how he engaged in torture and oppression against the Iranian people. We were more than OK with his harsh and anti-democratic activities, because it kept cheap oil flowing in our direction.

      The Iranian people also vividly remember that it was with our approval and logistical support that Saddam launched his military invasion of Iran, seeking both to seize their oil fields and to institute 'regime change' against their government. He was OUR thug then, and engaged in his war of aggression at our behest.

      Herr Kristol is truly a fascist, and an unrepentant and contemptable chickenhawk. He cares nothing for democracy, and even less for human life. He continues to advocate of policies that are certain to further destabilise the Middle East and to f**k us up. Obama has been pursuing the exactly correct policies in regard to Iran. He has been subtly and adroitly massaging their understandable paranoia where it comes to the US government. We need to engage them DIPLOMATICALLY, and move away from the neocon's historically and disastrously failed approach.
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    • Author by latanza (June 29, 2009 10:08 am ET)
         
      we should listen to every party on every topic of government, If the people felt that they had the answer we seek then they would have been elected to run the United States. Furthermore, there may be a time when they have the right voice or idea. The conservatives seem not to understand that we can not control Iran. What advantage do the United States have in Iran's election. Is is peace we seek for the Iranians or anxious trade and financial prospects. Peace is designed. Peace is not submitting. There are concessions and agreements to be made to evoke peace in any instance and once one can contemplate the gains and losses of what is the greater good, they will attain peace. The United States has the guidance and the vision for the matrimony but not the authority to demand it take place at our pace. Allow the process of revolution and growth-the same way America did. You see that we have something we enjoy, that works and that we value among all things, A society of democratic character and diversity with the limitations of individual rights. These systems must be employed in any government. We will and should only assist in developing the means and the philosophies to the adaptation. Focus on the rights and not the power.
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    • Author by hm1342 (June 30, 2009 10:41 am ET)
         
      Kristol's "regime change" comment was pulled from a Washington Post editorial; Kristol even prefaces his comment with a plug for the Post:

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/26/AR2009062603986.html

      Here's the paragraph he's talking about:

      "It's still too early to say whether Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and Mr. Ahmadinejad will succeed in their hard-line coup; de facto opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi remains publicly defiant. Yet it is becoming quite clear -- for all who care to see it -- what the Khamenei-Ahmadinejad regime will offer if it survives: harsh repression at home and unrelenting hostility toward the West. If the regime chooses to "engage" at all with the United States, it will be to bolster its shaky legitimacy, not to surrender its nuclear program or its support for terrorism. The only plausible path toward ending the threat it poses is that demanded by the demonstrators: regime change."

      So why is there not some MMfA article denouncing the Washington Post editorial?

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