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Todd on Ricci: "[T]he majority actually, well, to put it bluntly, legislated from the bench"

June 30, 2009 8:45 am ET

From the June 30 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:

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    • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (June 30, 2009 8:47 am ET)
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      Yes, the majority of the Supreme Court, not the majority of the appellate court.
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    • Author by SDVikes (June 30, 2009 8:58 am ET)
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      That was great! Scarborough didn't know what to say when confronted with the traditional conservative accusation of "legislating from the bench"! Todd literally shut him up!
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    • Author by kromecom48 (June 30, 2009 8:58 am ET)
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      Chuck Todd is one of the best analysts around, and the only prominent pundit so far to honestly assess the ruling. Not only that, they also set policy with this ruling, right? T

      The ruling will force organizations of all types to review and modify existing affirmation actions policies. Ergo, they've just set policy, something the right assailed Sotomayor for admitting at a conference.
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    • Author by nerzog (June 30, 2009 9:13 am ET)
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      I think Joe was none too happy with Todd's analysis on this story.
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      • Author by neon desert (June 30, 2009 9:32 am ET)
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        Joe was smacked upside the head with the dead fish of conservative duality and it left him a bit stunned.

        He recovered well, though, feigning like he actually has the truly accurate analysis, but it is so deep and complicated that it would take too long to explain it to those who don't already pretend to know what it is.
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        • Author by scootmandubious (June 30, 2009 10:38 am ET)
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          Yes, Joe Scarborough...quite the deep thinker...not.
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        • Author by mdh (June 30, 2009 1:45 pm ET)
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          "to those who don't already pretend to know what it is"

          you just nailed it sir. Right There.
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    • Author by inkslave (June 30, 2009 11:13 am ET)
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      Scarborough sees the Supreme conservatives called out for "legislating from the bench" and sits there in total silence, as opposed to trying to form some argument about how they didn't. Then he gets all snarky with Todd for offering a "legal opinion," whatever the heck that means. They should put this clip on display so school children can see for themselves how conservatives react when the facts don't line up with their worldview: stammer and change the subject. I guess Todd is lucky that no one suggested that his soul needs praying for.
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      • Author by SMTDL (June 30, 2009 11:40 am ET)
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        YOU nailed it!! He was just like Hannity on the rare occasion that he has someone on that will and can challenge his opinion and expose his lack of a fact based argument.He stammers or stays silent and tries to change the subject.Joe tried to rebut but was weak because he had no wa yto dispute Chuck's assessment.
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        • Author by congero6189599 (June 30, 2009 12:45 pm ET)
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          Chuck was awkwardly apologizing at the end!?! What is up with Mika? Does she think she is some kind of sex symbol or what? She keeps posing and twisting herself around while creepily staring into the camera,it doesn't show so much on this segment but I've seen it on others. These guys really blur the lines of distinction between reporting and entertainment. Next stop...Faux and Friends!
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    • Author by blueline99 (June 30, 2009 12:42 pm ET)
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      Okay Joe... I get it... you didn't want to spend 30 minutes looking like a fool, so you decide to be in stunned silence for 8 seconds before deciding that he had no leg to stand on.

      This is what happens when there are no Republican Talking Points to guide them.
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    • Author by shaggles (June 30, 2009 1:58 pm ET)
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      This is almost an historic moment. Well maybe not but I don't remember it happening before on a major news network. The standard meme has always been that only liberal judges can be activists.
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    • Author by paul8616 (June 30, 2009 2:45 pm ET)
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      The very clear implication here is that since the Supremes ruled against her, Sotomayor is not an activist judge. Not only that, but the Bush-appointed 'conservative' majority ruled in an activist way, adding to the legislation.

      So therefore, Mika says: Wow, you were putting us to sleep over here. Joe says: You're off in the weeds. Instant criticism having nothing whatsoever to do with the analysis. "Go away, you're making us think, and even worse, you're wrecking the narrative!"
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      • Author by congero6189599 (June 30, 2009 3:20 pm ET)
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        Then Todd apologizes!!!! Disgusting! I refuse to eat the BS cable news tries to feed us, I turn it off!
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    • Author by timolo (June 30, 2009 4:50 pm ET)
         
      I actually thought the sound cut out. Awesome.

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    • Author by hm1342 (June 30, 2009 11:55 pm ET)
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      It seems unlikely that either Chuck Todd or Joe Scarborough could give a concrete definition of what "legislation from the bench" really means or even "judicial activism" for that matter. This sort of attack against the judiciary has been going on since Jefferson and Marshall. One scholar, John Dillon, said in 1887, "it is no longer anywhere denied...that the judges [are]...engaged in legislating, since they frame the rules which they apply to the transgressions at hand, and which constitute the basis of the judgments they pronounce." Then there was FDR who, when faced initially by opposition to New Deal policies by the Supreme Court, pledged he would "appoint Justices who will act as Justices and not legislators."

      With all that said, the conservatives act like they have some sort of moral high ground here and it was just fun to watch Chuck "tweak" Joe for the fun of it.
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    • Author by jjcomet514 (July 01, 2009 8:56 am ET)
         
      I love how Joe tries to dismiss Todd's comments as "a legal opinion." As if that is somehow inappropriate for a story about a Supreme Court ruling. What a complete cobag...
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