Brzezinski: Palin's views connect with "real Americans"

I'd like to thank Willie for admitting that there are some "Real Americans" in New York.

Who gets to define "real Americans"?

Mika keeps mentioning polls, but I thought a majority of Americans rejected Sarah Palin last November. Are those voters "faux Americans"?

I consider myself a real American, and I don't agree with anything Palin has to say really.

Does that not make me a "real American". Or does Mika mean by real Americans, the ones who were at her rallies shouting out about killing Obama? You mean those real Americans?

I'm beginning to have a bit of an existential crisis. Am I not "real?" I know that I'm an American. Many of my friends and family are American as well. But none of us are going to miss Sarah Palin. She's an extremist - but that's not the worst of it. She is simply to self-absorbed. If you listened to her rambling speech the other day, she kept using the same crutch: "Everything I do is in the best interest of Alassssska." And that's simply not true. She is just trying to prop her own stature up and looking to cash in on what remains of her 15 minutes.

So I guess my views make me a "fake American?"

so if people don't think like you! You are not a real American. You all seem to think the people of the press that's the real Americans. You and Joe have no idea what real Americans are. Look at the health care issue the majority people want it.They are the real Americans not ones that care more about Ins. Co. Then they do for the millions with out it or can't aford it.

What a stupid thing to say, in the landscape of a show that has the stupid meter to '11'. I go back to Nerzog's direct reply, what about the voters in November? Think, Mika, think, before you open your trap.

Boy you know you've really stepped in it when Joe Scarborough has to clean up what you say and help you backtrack an idiotic, right-wing elitist statement like "real Americans". Those emails must've really flew in after that one.

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So by definition (underlined) - that would mean "all of us" are REAL AMERICANS and we ALL obviously do NOT connect with her views, Mika - only 22% do.

Please Mika, less hyperbole, more substance would be nice.

Among other things this seems to be the rally cry for rwers...if you don't believe the same, or you speak against, or you question their philosophy....you are not a "real american".

I grew up in small western towns and middle, middleclass suburbs. I attended public schools and universities and I don't really know anyone who is either rich or famous or powerful. I don't even know anyone who lives in New York City, and while I do live close to D.C., anyone I know there is strictly working class. Granted, being a civil servant and being married to a fellow civil servant does make me unusual as does my extended residence in Asia while working for the Federal government. It took me years to get over the feeling of needing to show my ID to the Walmart greeter or resist the desire to get out of my car and face the direction of the flagpole when it is time to retreat the colors and I will probably always miss hearing the National Anthem at the movie theater, even though I cringed every time some soldier shouted "Play Ball" at the end. Yet, I have never considered myself anything but a real American. I teared up at Mass yesterday when we sang "America the Beautiful." But I guess being a pro-choice, liberal Democrat, who doesn't listen to country music and believes in gun control, no Christian prayers or displays of the Protestant version of The Ten Commandments in public spaces and believing that Muslims, Jews, and Hindus, can be real Americans, too makes me less of an American to Governor Palin or to Mika. So be it.

"Real Americans" as we learned in the 2008 election cycle, is simply Republican codeword for conservatives that believe anything spoonfed to them by the likes of Joe the Plummer, Sarah Baracuda, Rush Limbaugh and Fox News.

That's why no one here can be a "real American". You cannot disagree with conservatives AND be a Republican "real American".

Mika has been touring too much with JoeS on his book tour. She tries to be in sync with the big boss. As she indicated on the show, Joe showed her the Real Americans who live in the Red States. These Red Staters love Palin, the reddest of them all. I wonder why the people of Manhattan where Mika was born, are not real Americans. She does not mindlessly banter when JoeS is not around.

Sarah Palins views? Pro-life = Shooting wolves with assault rifles from helicopters, allowing them to limp around bleeding to death for several hours? Her Pro-life view is to torture these animals as much as possible before they're made extinct!


You can agree with Sarah Palins views as much as you want, but she shouldn't be in politics, because she's disgrace for intelligent women in politics all around the globe.

I'm a real Christian American from one of the most conservative Christian areas in the country, and I find Sarah Palin to be one of the most divisive, hate-filled human beings I've ever encountered. She does NOT represent true Christianity NOR true conservatism. She is self-centered, even to the detriment of her own children, and incompetent, to boot.

I listened to the Palin love-fest on Morning Joe today and was rooting for Donnie Deutsch who is in touch with what REAL Americans think of this hate-filled, not-too-bright fraud.

Where does Mika get her information? It must be D.C. soirees where she and her millionaire cohort sip their tea and eat (crustless) cucumber sandwiches?
PollingReport.com on overturning Roe v Wade:
"Would you like to see the Supreme Court overturn its 1973 Roe versus Wade decision concerning abortion, or not?" 64% said not.

I should also point out that she is wrong when she says the for the first time the Gallup tracking poll (I think she means FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll. May 12-13, 2009. N=900 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 3.) shows more people are pro-life than pro-choice.
According to PollingReport.com, where the above poll is found, that same Fox poll showed 49% pro-life and 43% pro choice. That poll showed more pro-life on 4/4/09 as well as for 2000 and 2001.
I'm truly astonished that she could be wrong, but, well, there you have it.

Real American indeed! This is why I stopped watching "Morning Joe." I used to see Ms. Brzezinski as a voice of reason on MJ, but she was brought over to "Mourning Joe's" side.

Real Americans are those citizens who love this country no matter what political stripe they are. Real Americans are those citizens who who stay loyal to this country and its ideals and do not join groups that want to secede from it. Real Americans make promises and keep them. Real Americans do not engage in the politics of personal destruction, and then get their feelings hurt and quit the job they promised to do with due diligence. Real Americans are red and yellow, black and white, and they are precious in the sight of the God of our fathers and mothers.

Please Ms. Brzezinski agree with Mourning Joe if you must, but do not pick up the hateful rhetoric of the right wing extremists. It's, well, not what real Americans would do.

I am surprised at how often those who are so well paid to "analyze" and "communicate" are so inept at doing so. There was a kernel of truth in Mika's comment, but she made it seem more significant than it is and she described the people involved with a "canned" term (media jargon - political buzz word) that is neither objective nor accurate.

The people she describes are the same ones Barack Obama accurately described as "clinging". For the most part, they are isolated people . . . isolated geographically, isolated ideologically . . . They are not exposed to, not interested in and not inclined to be accepting of ideas and people unlike those they know and accept.

Yes, they are "real" and they exist in significant numbers. However, they do not comprise the majority of Americans; the last election proved that; the current polls prove that. They do not represent the basic principles on which the nation was founded as expressed in the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
This mindset does not offer the nation its best hope for and most productive path to the future.

Yes, Palin . . . and Limbaugh, and Cheney, and Bush, and DeLay, and Gingrich, et al . . . "represent" this foot-dragging and fearful group. More than that, these "leaders" manipulate and exploit the fears and anxieties of these folks in an effort to create raw political power that will produce personal again for their egos and their wallets. In the end, these "abusive leaders" will leave their pathetic followers in the same lost and lonely place they found them except the rest of the world will have moved on, leaving the recalcitrant ones even farther behind and less able to cope.

In the end, the only place Palin and her ilk are leading those unfortunate enough to follow is backward and downward. One might call that the fast track to hell-on-earth.

Shame on Palin and her fellow travelers! (If you are wondering . . . Yes, I do mean to recall the despicable era of Joseph McCarthy!)

I think, therefore I am...I don't think, therefore I'm not....Imagine what the screech monkeys would say if SP was a Democrat.

Once in a while, not often, Mika will say something that makes sense. THis is not one of those times. Even if you substute the offensive "real Americans" with "average Americans" it's still not true. Palin's views are very much out of the mainstream.

I think we should all boycott Starbucks. Let Mikas real americans buy their sponsors product. I am a real american and I think Sarah Palin is full of it.

"Palin's views connect with real" [dumb] "Americans".

There, now it's correct.

On what planet do Sarah Palin's views line up with overall America? For that matter, "real Amerian" views line up with overall America?

Utter nonsense.

There is a real danger in Sarah Palin that I think the Right and the Left are ignoring or overlooking--it's too fun taking pot shots at her if you are on the Left, and if you are one of Mika's media brethren, turning Palin and her ilk into a sideshow is like printing money--it's just too lucrative polarizing everyone. But Palin DOES connect with a small, disgruntled, misinformed, resentful minority. And she, as other populist demagogues before her (ever hear of Huey Long?), could energize and motivate that group, turning it into a very nasty movement. Hard as it may be, let's do Palin the courtesy of taking her seriously and clearly recognizing the reality-based potential danger that she is. I have yet to hear or see any news analyst discuss it from that angle. Whether a supporter or a detractor, no one is really taking her or the danger she could become seriously.

Real Americans use their brains. Real Americans distill the issues.
Real Americans vote.
Apparently, President Obama's decisive electoral victory means, in her view, that we're all a bunch of socialists.
I consider Palin VERY dangerous. Her views, the way she thinks...we could have another Joe McCarthy in the works.
I'm beginning to fear for this country. That certain people "decide" who's real and who's not and actually propagate this as "news" is going to divide this country in ways we haven't seen for quite awhile, even worse than under Shrub II.
People, we need to do more than simply point this out. We need to contact these news outfits, calling them on their misinformation, get more active. Put people like Palin and the blonde bimbo above out to pasture.

I like the fact that Sarah brings out such emotion in people. It only takes a few hours to fill up a thread of people standing in line to type what they dont like about her. Fascinating!

I guess the real Americans are trailer park, white trash, pentacostal.

Cut through the code, folks. "Real Americans" means white people. Palin's, and McCain's for that matter, appeal began and ended with skin color. The GOP ticket consisted of a rich white naval academy legacy (his full name is John Sydney McCain III) and an extreme right wing ex-beauty queen with a history of social climbing and back stabbing. Who identifies with EITHER of these miscreants? Answer: panic-stricken white people who can't bear to see a black man run the country.

Randy

How strange it must be watching something like this
and to actually take it serious..weigh those arguments back and forth extensivly contemplating the blonde experts statements.
Apparently the other disagrees...now thats obviously a very open
and free NEWS - station with a variety of informed experts from different schools of thought.

To me it is so beyond fake and ridiculously flat trash ( in general mainstream news TV )..and they always talk so much..nobody I know is watching their tired fakeshit anyhow / anymore.
They cater to a rather small audience, loosely " Ignorant
idiots..sooo into watchin news on tv ".

Palin's views connect with real Americans? Hmmm ... must be those carefully articulated positions on Supreme Court rulings, foreign policy, healthcare, the economy and such. What I loved about Palin was how articulate she was; she didn't just pander to the prejudices of white people and launch baseless attacks on her opponents. No sirree! Oh, and her resignation speech? Brilliant!

The only thing about Palin that connects with her supporters is that she's pro-life and especially that she's white. There, I said it. So call me an elite (the term used by people like Palin when they lack any factual rebuttal or don't want to engage in a debate).

If you're a deluded moron, Sarah Palin connects with you.

I guess that "real Americans" are quiters. Isn't the Princess a Quiter?

Is this someone you want your children to follow? A quitter.

"Mommy, my home work is too tough. Can I quit doing it like the Real American, Sarah, the QOTUS, Palin"?

"Hey Boss, my job is too hard, can I quit now just like another Real American, Sarah the QOTUS, Palin"?

Great role model for any American....

The only real American Palin reminds me of is Roseanne Barr, the same nasty hate filled voice.

Wow, this Mika segment was a complete farce. Moronic commentary. And while I hate to say it, I loved Joe's not so tongue in cheek, tongue in cheek grandslam of questioning Mika's ability to rag on not real American from her not Real American credentials.

The hosts of this show missed their calling at Fox. Joe is talent less Pharisee, with more skeletons in his closet than a crypt. As far as this Mica person, her only qualification is her father. I half expect these two to next be adorned in Starbucks attire. The question becomes, what part of their program won't they prostitute?

The answer is obvious. Nothing.

Wow a lot of mean spirited people dislike Palin. It will be fun to see her rally the lower states. Nobody has those kind of enemies without having power the "mean spirited people" are afraid of.
God Bless America and God Bless Sarah Palin

I think Mika is head of the Palin fanclub. She goes beyond even the most rightwing on the program.
This woman has a total blind spot when it comes to Palin.
She also claims the reason Palin is not liked is because she has 5 kids.
WTF??
What does having kids have to do with politics??

What the hell is a "real American"? They annoy me with this crap. I am a black American who is also a veteran, am I a "real American." She's always saluting veterans.

It takes a lot of special arrogance to dictate to America who a "real American" is. Mika clearly stated that she thinks it is liberals who are not "real Americans." Way to put your bias front and center.

And she ignores the biggest poll of all - the Presidential election! And Palin was trounced! A big majority of Americans turned her and her ideas away.

Plus, this idiocy that people at Palin rallies supported Palin's ideas! Wow! And they all went to the same political rally? What are the odds?!?

I actually saw Mika say this. I was shocked. Who is a real American? I vote, I pay taxes, I'm a Democrat who was born right here in the USA and I feel that I'm a REAL American. I wish MSNBC would get rid of this "Morning Joe" show. If we want cons, then FOX is the network to watch.

Mika is rubbing our noses in it this morning making fun of us real americans, you know the ones that don't believe in Sarah Palin's views. I say boycott starbucks.

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I have found that over the last five to six months, Mika's become intolerable. This latest statement offends me as much as Palin's stupid remark about 'real' America. I'm further offended that she, in essence, considering that most American's live in urban areas, stated that most of us are liberal elitists, and not 'real' Americans.

I am a proud, life-long, NY metro liberal, and I'm not Ivy-League educated; I attended public schools, and started working right out of high school. If I try to get into Mika's mind, does that mean that while I am 'unfortunate' enough to not live in 'rural' America, I must know more about being a 'real' American than my wealthier, college-educated neighbors?

Well, I do know one thing - Mika's line of thinking is bull, and highly offensive. Thankfully, the Mika's and Palin's do NOT speak for women like me.

This is so annoying and she is still rubbing our noses in it this morning.