Buchanan on Palin: "I'm not sure what this woman ever did wrong...to justify the savagery of the attacks on her"
July 06, 2009 8:55 am ET
From the July 6 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:
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First, she got tossed softballs from everywhere. I mean, again, how hard is the question, "What periodicals do you read?". The Couric interviews were ridiculously easy, and she botched them.
Second, how does she expect she'll be received by the media when, even before she talked to many of them, she was attacking them. She went out of her way to make enemies of the media, and now she, and her allies, are mad that the media dare to write negative stories about Princess Sarah.
The amount of victimhood Palin plays is simply, and utterly amazing. For a counterpoint, look at Obama. He has been actually savaged for months now by the conservative media, and he doesn't go off talking about suing people for defamation.
Stick the proverbial fork in her folks, she's done.
P.S. Rush is an entertainer who pretends to be a conservative so that people like you will keep him on the radio. He's laughing his way all the way to the bank . . . at you.
As I said, Rush Limbaugh is laughing at you . . . all the way to the bank because he has convinced you and a few million other folks that he cares. Guess what, he doesn't.
Carry on!
Ri-ight. OK. I'll spell this out for you really slowly. Rush Limbaugh wasn't criticized for talking about the concept of "the magical negro", which has been in circulation among film scholars and cultural critics since 2001 when Spike Lee introduced the term in talks at Washington State University and Yale University. He was criticized because used David Ehrenstein's LA Times piece as an excuse to air ad nauseam a song in which Paul Shanklin sang in a "Al Sharpton" voice, shouting through a bullhorn about how Sharpton felt angry that he was being upstaged by someone who was not "authentically" black like he was.
Limbaugh wasn't "exposing the left". Limbaugh was delighting in the opportunity to use an N-word, thinking that he was shielded from accusations of racism by three layers of ventriloquism: Limbaugh --> Shanklin --> Sharpton --> Ehrenstein.
If Limbaugh had a serious point to make about the left, don't you think he might have found a more serious way to make it than by playing a Peter Paul and Mary song sung by a guy pretending to be Al Sharpton shouting a mischaracterization of a column by an LA Times columnist through a megaphone?
Now, the fact that still over 60% of the US approves of how Obama is doing his job is enough for me, to know, that right now, the country approves of him. Only time will tell if he's the "worst" ever, but I'm pretty sure regardless of what happens, George W will be ahead of him on the "worst" ever list.
* An energy policy that's not written by big oil?
* An approach to foreign policy that advocates thought before action?
* An economic model that favors small business rather than corporate behemoths grown 'too big to fail'?
* A campaign based on issues and ideas rather than personal attacks?
* Recognizing that Pharma and the insurance industry should not be allowed to dictate health insurance policy?
Obama is the worst person to occupy the WH? You base that on, what, SIX MONTHS??? No, that's not it, not by a long shot. You say it because you are TOLD to say it by jackasses like Limpy and his clones.
Over the last 8 years you teabagger terrorist told the Left and the majority of this planet that we hated America for not supporting herr dubyah and his radical agenda. Hypocritical scum.
The media, if you've been paying attention, is far from being in the tank for Obama, this website pretty much proves that out on a daily basis.
Obama never went after Rush. Never. He made a comment about the man once, because someone asked him a direct question about Limbaugh. Same for Gibbs.
You really should learn how to compose proper sentences. I don't normally comment on things like that in a forum such as this, but trying to put yourself out there as some authority on something you should learn how to write a little better so that it does make sense.
Any person that has 2 correctly firing synapses knows that listening to Rush causes paranoia and delirium. Do you agree with them that overthrowing the government sounds peachy-keen and just what this country needs? If you are so put off by the outcome of the last election, then by all means become a community organizer and get involved with resurrecting the Republican party, and for god's sake quit listening to Rush.
I don't know about you, but I don't pull "facts" out of my butt like Rush does. Because it's been proven on this site time after time that his lies don't jibe with the facts, you silly little dittohead.
Truth: a fact that has been verified
Opinion: a belief that may or may not be backed up with evidence, but which cannot be proved with that evidence.
You apparently don't understand the difference.
What Obama has done is put Dumbya's off-budget spending back into the budget so it can be controlled, something Dumbya was too incompetent to imagine, let alone accomplish. And all Cheney cared about was his "deferred compensation" war profiteering gains.
Good gravy. You can't even understand the pun, can you? The word is abomination. The president is Obama. You somehow managed to swing and miss at the world's most unoriginal and obvious combination of those two words, and ended up with "Abamanation" -- a new word that refers to neither "Obama" nor "Abomination" and yet still has one clear meaning: that its creator has no idea what he or she is talking about.
There's Che Guevarra/Wasilla Quarterly, Hockey Mom's Socialist Digress, and the Nome Chomsky Gazette, don't Juneau?
Completely untrue, but original.
Self-made man that you are, and remaining as always, tickled pink.
Name-calling... jeez, that's the ONLY thing your side apparently has.
You guys should be pushing your agenda instead of bitching about Limbaugh and Bush.
News Flash!
Bush isn't president anymore......get over it!
But his legacy of failure lives on.
As for Rush, it's the lies he tells and the sheeple like you who believe him, almost always to the detriment of reasoned discourse.
I think he's a buffoon.
I was just commenting on the fact that you leftys seem to turn every thread into a "Limbbaugh's an idiot" fest. If he's so insignificant, then why does he irk you so much?, and why are you so preoccupied with what he says?
But his legacy of failure lives on.
You think throwing trillions of dollars at the problem is the answer? Oh I forgot, you leftys never met big government you didn't yearn for. You all think government should take care of you, that only goevernment knows what best for you. Do you think the Democrats are any better than the Republicans? Really? I think both parties stink. Do you think they have you're best interests in mind? They only interests they have in mind are getting re-elected. Who are the Sheeple now?
I guess when this country is bankrupt and China owns us, you'll all be content in believing "It was Bush's fault!"
I think he's a blight on the human race, and a cancerous tumor on the gonads of American politics.
And yes, I'm jealous of anybody who makes $40,000,000 a year.
OSarah bin Palin couldn't answer two simple softball questions 1) What newspapers/mags does she read, and 2) which Supreme Court ruling, other than Roe v. Wade, does she disagree with. Yeah....real tough and probing questions....for a radical anti-American anti-intellect teabagger.
Two things to consider. First, Palin was no innocent bystander during the campaign. I think we can dig up some clips of her taking some very nasty, dishonest swipes at Barack Obama.
Second, the treatment of Simple Sarah pales in comparison to the sh*tstorm that befell Hillary Clinton during the 90s, largely from the same people who are now whining about how Palin has been treated.
Palin was vilified by the Left because she's a Troglodyte Evangelical throwback who wanted to be a 70-year-old heartbeat away from the most powerful office in the world, an office for which she is grossly unqualified.
She was chosen to rally the Evangelical Republican Base, nothing more, nothing less. I feel no guilt or sympathy for the way she was treated.
Which reminds me... I remember Porky Limbaugh making one of his "predictions" that the Clinton machine would never allow Obama to win the nomination. Oh, well....
I'm glad she's gone.
Rush's proclamation that she is somehow the future of the party was laughable.
Palin is like Phyllis Schlafly, a woman who travels all over the country telling women their place is in the home.
Barry's absences
Lots of NV's in there. Over half.
C'mon, be fair. You have it in ya.
And the "Barry" thing is pretty old, too.
Al qaeda.
I'm not making that up.
If you need to work to win over the base in a presidential election, then you already lost.
No need to go further.
To his credit he suffered all of your slings and arrows and won the greatest election in our nations history with grace and dignity.
She however, lost the greatest election in our nations history and did so at the cost of her grace and dignity. She suffered all of the slings and arrows and crumbled beneath them until she finally has shown us who she really is... a quitter.
"truth": a fact that has been verified.
"opinion": a belief that may or may not be backed up with evidence, but which cannot be proved with that evidence
Dr. Stangelove: "Based on the findings of the report, my conclusion was that this idea was not a practical deterrent for reasons which at this moment must be all too obvious."
See we can do that too.
At least, I hope it's an act.
"You don't understand. I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am, let's face it."
And you have zero grasp of prose and lexis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC-tOzXQOsk
It's not, as Mika said, because she is a woman and has 5 kids. (Remember the attacks against Dan Quayle?) And it's not because, as Danny Deutsch said, because Americans just don't know what to make of an attractive woman run for high office.
It is because her resume was of one of the most unqualified candidates in history and she had never been vetted. She has no history of intellectual curiosity or interest in international affairs, economics, history, etc. And no significant educational background. She was simply unqualified, and Americans who realized this, quite understandably, reacted with strong disgust.
I wish someone would shout this out to Mika and get her over this simplistic crusade she's been suckered into that this is all based on discriminatory attitudes toward women.
I don't know what she'll be ready for, but she'll be ready.
....she said yes to McCain. I'll bet he is kicking himself in the arse right now.
Their cries for attention and pity rings hollow and shrill. This is the party with it's well oiled, well financed attack machine that brought us Ken Starr and Whitewater and the Presidential impeachment. Now they're victims? I don't think anyone will shed a tear for the fallen republicans. Good luck and don't let tge door hit you in the ass on your way out
Remember, the Reich Wing was attacking BEFORE a candidate was named.
(Until MSNBC stops giving this idiot a pulpit I refuse to watch them)
This woman does NOT represent true Christianity NOR true conservatism. She is a self-serving narcissist who will walk on ANYONE to get what she wants.
I'm sort of treating this as an open question. I do happen to know a little bit about Christianity, having been involved in local churches most of my life.
Sarah Palin's public life in many ways does not conform to what Christ was teaching. Lying, obsessive self interest, the way she apparently treats staffers or indeed anyone who dares contradict her, these are all un-Christian. It is true that the neo-cons have, for all intents and purposes, hijacked Christianity for their own purposes, but that does not make them Christian, nor does it make them a reliable source of information about the nature of Christianity.
I have no first-hand idea how she treats her staffers, no. I seemed to recall e-mails indicating she is difficult to work for, but I can't seem to source them, so I'll lay that one aside.
As for the lying, it's obvious that she is a liar. She told a number of lies, easily checkable lies, during the campaign, and was caught lying. Bridge to nowhere? Alaska's jet?
Obsessive self interest? How about parading her unmarried daughter on stage as an example of what teaching abstinence in the schools is actually getting us? How selfish that was of Sarah Palin to do such a thoughtless and horrible thing to her own child, the mother of her first grandchild.
I am not attacking her. I do not despise her. I am pointing out that if she wishes to be an example of how to lead a Christian life, she should actually conform to the principles Christ laid down. Teachers of the Law and leaders are called to a much higher standard in the Bible.
As far as baseless attacks, I admit to not being able to find evidence about her staff, and retract that point, though I did believe it to be true at the time. By that I mean I was not making a spurious argument simply out of a spirit of meanness. The rest of my points about her behavior are both honest and to the point.
She used her family for political purposes, as most politicians do, you are correct about that. However, I was pointing out Sarah using Bristol as a poster child for abstinence education, which took place -after- the campaign, all right? Sarah wanted a little more spotlight, and used her daughter's out of wedlock pregnancy to further her own political agenda. That's selfish.
I suppose we can choose a different word than parading if you think it is so inaccurate, but she is demonstrably selfish just the same. One last thing? Please don't shout. It doesn't make you seem any wiser or more perceptive or witty.
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Yes you were. Everytime you post you are talking to everyone. If you want a private conversation get a phone number or an Edress
In the same speech, she claimed that if Alaska wanted to build a bridge, they'd build it themselves. She knew, however, that in Sept. 2007 when, as governor, she announced the cancellation of the bridge, she said it was because there wasn't enough Federal money to finish it.“Despite the work of our congressional delegation, we are about $329 million short of full funding for the bridge project, and it’s clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island,” Governor Palin added.
Let's not even get into the whole "selling the plane on E-Bay" claim.
Yeah, the problem with contemporary politics is that CONSERVATIVES are vilified. COME ON!
I heard they had a whopping 2000 people out at the Capitol for their little Tea Party on the 4th. Amazing the numbers they can pull...
You know, that little document that you and your base love to uphold but fail to understand and trample upon...?
I think she's going after those millions promised to her by the Wingnut Propaganda machine, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that she is trying to dodge some upcoming investigations.
The reason that Vanity Fair piece was so effective and so damning -- and why people like Pat have not and cannot refute it -- is because the criticism in it is entirely from Republicans.
I don't like Sarah Palin not because of her looks (which IMO aren't that impressive, actually), not because she's a woman, but because she's unqualified on every level. She doesn't have the temperament or intellect to be president, let alone hold any elected office. Hey Sarah, if you can't take that you'll be scrutinized for the most important job in the United States, then don't run. You're an elected official, not the queen. One of the cornerstones of representative democracy is that we can speak freely our elected officials. And from what I've seen, the "attacks" on Palin have been calling her out on severe character flaws, corruption, and her obvious shortcomings as an elected official. She's been exposed as a facade -- and a sniping, sneaky one at that.