Brzezinski revises "real Americans" comment she "got lambasted on the Internet" over

Mika,

Who voted for Omama? The UNREALS.

Cut it out...Would you really want Palin one heartbeat from the Presidency? Real people don't.

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Real A⋅mer⋅i⋅can [ril uh-mer-i-kuhn]
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1. of or pertaining to the United States of America, or an easily persuaded minority of its inhabitants: an internet-illiterate American citizen with conservative views who lives somewhere in the center of the continent, who unshrilly expresses concerns that Obama is acting more "left" than they were led to believe, and who recognizes a pair of waders and a snow machine.

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The way I read that poll is that 60% are either more liberal or unchanged.

As for Palin, the incessant whining from the Right is laughable. Liberals rejected Palin because she's an ignorant Evangelical Troglodyte with zero politic acumen beyond the ability to regurgitate talking points. We're not jealous, and we don't hate strong women.

Get over it.

Wow... Mika is really taking it personally...

This poll has nothing to do with what she said yesterday... she said that yesterday "Real Americans" connected with Sarah Palin... that poll has nothing to do with what she said.

Maybe she should have said that conservatives don't have a voice in government, which would be more accurate... but to characterize these people as "Real Americans" is tasteless.

I've never seen such Sarah Palin apologists...

Mika lost all journalistic credibility in my eyes after she actively turned the show into an unrelenting infomercial for Joe's book. I no longer follow the show live. Rather, I watch selective interviews online. What Mika does in her own free time (Tagging after Joe from town to town) is her own business but do we have to hear about it in the middle of a discussion on Iran? The only reason I don't dismiss her completely as a wannabe Scarborough/Palin groupie is b/c of her father.

Her consistent defense of Palin is Ziegler-esque. Both fail to appreciate that a solid majority of Palin detractors are not just fringe lefties living on the upper West Side. Both continue to pamper Palin as the eternal victim, a third daughter if u will. I suppose it is always comforting when u can just blame the failings of ur cult-leader (Palin) on the
liberal media or those living outside of the spurious "real America."

If caring if a VP candidate know the cause of climate change, the importance of fruit fly research, the constitutional role of VP, the countries in NAFTA etc... banish me to the fringe and reduce my politics to the venal hatred of a provincial abortion-loving elitist.

You need to re-think your headline. Brezezinski didn't so much revise her idiotic statement as defend it with slightly different language. Seriously, your title is misleading and this entire incident, although seemingly trivial, is actually reflective of not only the pro-conservative bias in the "liberal media", but also the complete inability of media figures to assess their individual and collective behaviors.
For a media figure to characterize the followers of one ideology as "real Americans" and then follow up by claiming that those very people aren't being given a fair shake in our national media-driven discourse is a window onto the vapid and dysfunctional nature of the establishment media.
It's noteworthy as well that the people who took issue with the obviously biased (and embarassingly stupid) use of the phrase "real Americans" are admonished by the head jock/Alpha of this superficial View-like program to "calm down" because Brzezinski lives in Manhattan, as if misuse of terms and blatant generalities are somehow mitigated by the speakers' address.
You could literally write thousands of words deconstructing all the intellectually corrupt formulations in this video. But at least start by correcting your headline.

Mika.. Look to your left.. see that big guy.. you know.. the jerk, No not Pat.. The OTHER jerk.. well your spending way too much time with him.. its rubbing off.

We could have the election over again today, and Obama and Biden would still win, because their policies are popular. Mika goes on and on about Sarah Palin's conservative views. Aside from being pro-life, what are those views exactly? Because I -live- in middle America. I was born in Iowa. And, as an Iowan, I can tell you that she doesn't speak for me. Personally, I'm pro-life, but publicly I'm pro choice because it is a -moral- issue that the government has no right making. It's between a woman and her doctor. Period. If Sarah Palin is opposed to abortions, fine, then she shouldn't have one. But if she's grown up enough to make that decision for herself, so is every other woman in America.

Mika, Palin lost. Not because she was conservative, and not because she was a woman. She lost because she was totally and completely unprepared for the job. Defending her ability to do that job points out your bias, and naivete.

I think that Mika is the who is being shrill and downright patronizing. I also think that she is out of touch with the average person. She has never lived a lower middle class lifestyle and I doubt if she even knows ANYONE who lives in a trailer park or splurges at Penney's for their EXPENSIVE fancy clothes but shops Walmart and Kmart for the everyday stuff. One can become more conservative, without being a Conservative. I have become more conservative as I have gotten older, but I am way far from being Conservative in my social views. But she does have a point, the real average American who makes that average salary of $45K or less isn't represented or looked out for and they should be, but I don't think Sarah Palin was anymore aware of them than Mika is. Even in the Beltway, you can live a lower middleclass lifestyle without glitz or power, and you can be a Liberal, too...because that describes me and my neighbors.

Talk about straw man...Mika, no one is questioning the poll (although anyone who knows anything about stats can tell you they can be read to affirm any notion the user wants) what people are questioning is why conservative views are being equated with the views of REAL Americans. In the last election liberals were voted into the white house and majorities in both houses of Congress...was that done by UNREAL Americans?

I gotta love the tart that throws out the "no one knew how FAR TO THE LEFT Obama would be" canard...with public opinion behind him and a fillibuster proof majority Barack is folding like a lawn chair on more issues than I can stomach. I voted for him but I gotta say "Barack---stop it already, no matter what you do the RIGHT will hate you and the media will bash you---F**k being polite and start ramming some legislation through already. Far to the left while upholding a ton of W's protocols? Lord, give me strength!

This has nothing to do with what she said yesterday about real americans.

Here are a few quotes from the text explanation of the Gallup poll Brzenski cites:

Conservatives currently outnumber liberals in the population, and thus, conservatism has a natural advantage on any question asking the public to choose between these standard ideological labels. So that's part of the explanation for the incongruity.

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Have Americans' positions on major cultural, social, and policy issues shifted left accordingly? A broad review of the available trends suggests not. However, they have not shifted solidly right either, countering Americans' claims in the new poll that they have grown more conservative.

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Which way do Americans want to be led? While the new Gallup Poll finds the public reporting a heightened sense of conservatism in its political outlook, Americans' specific policy positions have not changed much since 2004. To the extent they have, about as many of these positions have become more liberal as more conservative.

Of course in order to honestly evaluate this poll, Brzezinski would had to have had honest intent. Clearly she just wanted a prop for self-defense and presented this poll as validation of her foolish remarks. I doubt she even bothered reading beyond the first paragraph.

The right wingnutz have made much of this poll.

It's badly flawed. First of all, a blanket self-identification is meaningless. When polled, how many Americans consider themselves to be "Middle Class?" So many that there isn't room at the top or the bottom - literally just about everybody says they are Middle Class.

Ask people if they are of above-average intelligence. Half the folks can't be - yet most will say they are.

Questions that speak to specific issues tell us what people are really thinking. Jim Hightower has made this point time after time. Based on responses to very specific questions, the majority of Americans are "left of center" (and that contradicts what I wrote above because only half the people can really be left or right of the center - otherwise it isn't the center).

My point being the general perceptions are often skewed. That is why Mr. Hightower believes the path to success for progressives is to move left and not right.

It really is quite simple. Sarah Palin is not intellectually astute enough or emotionally grounded enough to hold a major political office. The very fact that a Governor of a small state (The mayor of Louisville is responsible for a larger population.) would want to use the power of her office to silence critics shows that she should not be trusted with a major political office.

Let us celebrate that she has decided to exit government. Let us pray that she does not desire to return. Let us not encourage her with speculation that she could run. (She would mistake that for an invitation.) Let her go the way of Rush, Glenn, Bill and Ann who speak only to the marginalized of society. Throw her a tea party every now and then.

The problem I have with this poll is that it doesn't appear to reflect the current beliefs of the people asked. For example, I feel my views HAVE become more conservative, but I still consider myself a liberal. I'm just not the ultraliberal I used to be.

Why does she take that crap from those guys?

I get so tired of the right's "real americans" vs. americans who live in cities. Guess what? In the 2000 census, 58% of americans lived in urban areas with population of 200,000 or more.


http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/census/cps2k.htm

I heard back pedaling to the Nth degree, and a biased interpretation of a poll.
Trying to justify stupid remarks by "proving" a poll backs you insults my intelligence. This woman isn't a liberal.
She's a liberal like Rush is a liberal.

First, let's put a link to Gallup.

Secondly, "real Americans" is a variation on the ancient 'tribal' view, that 'we of Tribe X' are human, 'those of Tribe Y' are not, thus enabling the genocide of Tribe Y without violating proscriptions on killing 'other humans'.
The names used by Native Americans (and others) show this, since most of the terms used to describe one's own tribe usually translates to "the people" (the only REAL people implied). Other names which are imposed on other groups are usually defamatory.

Sorry, the poll was incomplete. The final percent is as follows:

Who the hell is Mika 01%

I'm a mother of six and have a husband I work go to track meets and anything else my children have. So I'm sorry I don't feel bad for her we all do it to the best of our ability. So we can't just forgive her because she has five children and that she feels it's to much. We all have our days but we don't just quit.

Joe finally said something right when he said a lot of people didn't understand her. He forgot to finish the thought that it's because she's incoherent.

so is she a liberal or a conservative sympathizer? maybe neither? its so hard to read mika sometimes.