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Rush fill-in Belling: Liberals "are not used to rooting for American forces at war," "wanted us to lose in Iraq"

July 07, 2009 1:24 pm ET

From the July 7 edition of Premiere Radio Network's The Rush Limbaugh Show:

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    • Author by snoopy (July 07, 2009 1:36 pm ET)
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      Really? This marine says yer full of rush butt pimple, marky.
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      • Author by ChickenHawkHunter303 (July 07, 2009 1:59 pm ET)
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        I would have to agree. Stan is not the same as Iraq because there the bad guys aren't afraid to go toe to toe with you... freakin' losers. What is the screening process for the Limbaugh fill-ins? Must be a fat, uneducated, hate mongering hypocrate? because if that's the case, this guy doesn't pass the fat part.
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    • Author by peace4all (July 07, 2009 1:38 pm ET)
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      these wingnuts are just incredible. the "left" in this country did not want our troops to fail in Iraq. we did not want to even go to Iraq. after we did we understood that we could not just leave the country to tear itself apart. so we wanted the troops to suceed. it was the leadership we wanted replaced. the problem was that the bush administration was by their own admission working from a basis of fear. anytime you make decisions with fear as your guideing factor you set yourself up for failure. thats why we on the left were oppesed to bush and company. we wanted them replaced with someone brave and confident. you know, like president Obama.
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      • Author by justjoe628 (July 07, 2009 4:26 pm ET)
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        Really, you shouldn't make decisions based on fear. But that is exactly the liberal play book....stir up fear and people will gladly give up their freedom for more government intrusion into their lives. And just like there are a certain segment of the "Right" that want the economy to stay in the dump, there was/is a certain segment of the "left" that wanted/wants America to fail in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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        • Author by magnolialover (July 07, 2009 7:07 pm ET)
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          I have never heard anyone from the left say that they wanted us to fail either in Iraq, or Afghanistan, but if you want to pretend that someone said that, go ahead. It's not really true. And I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of folks that I know who are liberal thought we should be in Afghanistan, hence, that's where the bad guys were, and are.

          The liberal play book doesn't work on fear, you're confusing us with the right play book. Like how if we elected John Kerry, the terrorists were going to hit us again? Or like how if we elected Obama, the terrorists were going to hit us again, and OBama would make the country less safe? You mean, scare tactics like that?

          What kind of scare tactics has the left used? Please, be specific. I don't remember anyone on the left claiming that we were looking at a mushroom cloud on American soil if we didn't invade Iraq, or things like that.
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          • Author by NdlovukaziThor (July 07, 2009 11:54 pm ET)
               
            You forgot the part about how "people will gladly give up their freedom"! Ahh, civil liberties. It's ok, I wasn't using them anyway!

            That didn't happen at all in the last 8 years, did it? Noooo...
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        • Author by solon (July 07, 2009 8:37 pm ET)
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          Not only are you brainwashed and being a jerk your projection is HILARIOUS. It could be used as a textbook example in psychology classes. There is obviously a certain segment of the Limborg hivemind that is just dumber than library paste
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        • Author by franky (July 08, 2009 1:31 am ET)
             
          ...there was/is a certain segment of the "left" that wanted/wants America to fail in Iraq and Afghanistan.


          The way to win is to get the military home from there and all over the globe. WE CAN'T AFFORD IT!!!
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      • Author by svs22422 (July 07, 2009 9:08 pm ET)
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        you are joking,right?
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    • Author by blueline99 (July 07, 2009 1:39 pm ET)
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      Wow, that is just an ignorant and inflammatory thing to say.

      Only Rush wants America to fail...

      I've heard some dumb things before... but man that was ignorant.

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    • Author by epkklk851 (July 07, 2009 1:48 pm ET)
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      That is just plain disgusting! As a civil servant, every day of my working life is in service of my country and my mission is in direct support of our service members. I put myself on the line, what has he done except talk trash?
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      • Author by jeter2 (July 07, 2009 2:33 pm ET)
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        Gotta agree 100%, this is disgusting.

        While Libs often speak out [thank God!] against unjust/unnecessary wars of which Iraq could certainly be included...they have never rooted against our troops at war.

        As a [moderate] Con, even I get damn sick of this worn out fallacy trotted out by the Right in their attempt to make Lib/Dems look un-Patriotic. It is trash talking B.S.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (July 07, 2009 1:53 pm ET)
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      WHERE IS RUSH LIMBAUGH???? Phasing out, Rush...?
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    • Author by Victor Colorado (July 07, 2009 2:07 pm ET)
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      Many on the right have gotten far too comfortable with rooting against America. Smart money is on Limbaugh and his fill-ins continuing to loose. Badly.
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      • Author by justjoe628 (July 07, 2009 4:42 pm ET)
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        Well the ratings disagree. Rush has close to 15 million listeners. Conpare that to the whimpy 2.5 of the closest liberal talk show host. Fact is, Rush isn't losing anything.
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        • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (July 07, 2009 11:22 pm ET)
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          Well the ratings disagree. Rush has close to 15 million listeners


          Considering the US population is OVER 300 MILLION, the clueless 15 million Limbo robots are simply a flea on the butt of a rhino.

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        • Author by bintx (July 08, 2009 1:05 pm ET)
             
          Try the 20 million who tune in to the network news every night. BTW, you do know that it is impossible to enumerate radio listenership? Arbitron ratings are simply estimates and there is absolutely no way to verify those estimates.

          BTW, why are you supporting a very poorly educated entertainer as if he is some sort of intelligent news source? Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer who pretends to be a conservative so that folks like you will tune in and think you are listening to real conservative commentary. He's laughing his way all the way to the bank . . . at you and those alleged 15 million others who listen to his drivel.
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    • Author by writerbri808 (July 07, 2009 2:07 pm ET)
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      I come from a family of veterans. Suggesting that I don't support United States troops in defending our country because of my political beliefs is hateful and wrong. This is just another attack from the right, on people who have the audacity to think, read, and have a different opinion than they do. In other words, liberals.
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      • Author by NdlovukaziThor (July 08, 2009 12:02 am ET)
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        I completely understand. My own situation is too personal for me to go into details, but it is beyond infuriating what I've had to hear and endure over the last few years because of what I do or don't agree with.
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    • Author by pros2pros2940 (July 07, 2009 2:11 pm ET)
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      Lather, Rinse, Repeat

      Same old....same old.....tired talking point
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      • Author by Victor Colorado (July 07, 2009 2:24 pm ET)
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        Tired indeed. I guess this guy is not used to rooting for Iraqis to not die in war. He, like many Neocons, spent so much time rooting for Iraqi deaths, that it's hard for him and others to think it may not continue at the hands of American forces.
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    • Author by pasteve (July 07, 2009 2:43 pm ET)
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      I, like Sarah Plain, will use a basketball analogy:
      I didn't want Lebron James to succeed. I'll admit it. I have nothing against him personally, I was just afraid that his having success going right to the NBA from high school would encourage others to forgo school and try to emulate him. His success has been amazing, and it seems like he is still the exception rather than the rule, and I am happy for that. I have nothing against him personally and I wish him continued success.

      Similarly, I was afraid of the precedent invading Iraq might set. Once in, I felt for our forces there. The mission changed and became less concrete and the leadership had flawed strategies, if any, that were getting them killed. I didn't want it to be a cakewalk because I feared it would encourage the Bush administration and lead to increased US armed intervention into other countries as well. I still believe if the Iraq conflict had gone more easily we would have invaded Iran years ago. As it is, the lives and money we have spent have tempered our reasoning, I hope, and we will think through our next decision to commit US armed forces to war more carefully.

      If that makes me rooter for American "failure", then I will accept that label, but my viewpoint must be viewed through the filter of believing that the role of the United States is not that of an aggressive imperial power. I believe we can still be the envy of the world if we focus on solving our problems, assist those countries who actually ask for our help, and realize that we cannot remake the world in our image through force.
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      • Author by nerzog (July 07, 2009 3:41 pm ET)
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        Sorry, but that opinion is much too complex for the Black and White thinkers on the Right to digest.

        Can you reduce it to bumper-sticker length?

        (I agree with you, by the way).
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        • Author by Conchobhar (July 07, 2009 6:00 pm ET)
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          There you go again, swallowing nuance. What'd you do, actually read, in school? I bet you took Logic, too.
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    • Author by pasteve (July 07, 2009 2:47 pm ET)
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      "Sarah Plain" was a typo - but I think I like it.
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    • Author by justjoe628 (July 07, 2009 4:55 pm ET)
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      How lame is a web site whose entire existance is to contradict Fox News and Rush?
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      • Author by solon (July 07, 2009 8:41 pm ET)
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        How pathetic is someone that comes to a website whose very function is to expose conservative media misinformation then snivels like a little girlscout that they are exposing conservative misinformation. Read the mission statement, actually you better get a reasonably bright six year old to read it to you and explain the big words to you. When you understand, or as close as someone like you can come to understanding get back to us or go to whichever one of the several million other websites out there that better serve your brainwashed interests and snivel there.
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        • Author by svs22422 (July 07, 2009 9:18 pm ET)
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          not immpressed!!
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          • Author by solon (July 07, 2009 11:34 pm ET)
               
            I dont much CARE what a brainwashed wingnut like you thinks. I have read your sad attempt at posts. You arent impressed? You arent very bright either. Such is life.
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          • Author by Leftym0m79 (July 07, 2009 11:50 pm ET)
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            I would be more impressed if you could use your spell check.
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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (July 07, 2009 4:58 pm ET)
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      where did they dig up this brain dead moron? It looks ok in IRAQ now but you never know when things may change, especially after we leave. I believe invading IRAQ was the wrong thing to do in the first place.
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    • Author by John Paradox (July 07, 2009 5:17 pm ET)
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      The basis of his 'argument' is plain (for those who have a brain)
      [http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_home/the_wizard_of_oz/ray_bolger/wizardofoz1.jpg]
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    • Author by justjoe628 (July 07, 2009 5:21 pm ET)
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      While I personally don't think that opposing the war is "un-patriotic", I do think that the way in which some liberal have opposed the war is. It's one thing to simply oppose the war on whatever grounds you may chose, but when people start making remarks that don't support the troop, which many on the left leaning media have done, then that is a completely different story. Our ability to voice our oppinion without being censored to one of the things that make America so great. So even though I disagree with someone who opposes the war and speaks negatively of our troops, I'm proud to live in a country where someone can say those things and not have to fear for their lives....ask someone who lives in Iran about that.
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      • Author by worrierking (July 07, 2009 8:00 pm ET)
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        For the last f--king time, no one on the left spoke ill of our troops. We spoke out against our political leaders for using our military for their own personal reasons, not the nations.

        And at least three of those speaking against you in this thread are veterans.
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      • Author by solon (July 07, 2009 8:43 pm ET)
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        So you decided to just go with LYING about the left.
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      • Author by bintx (July 08, 2009 1:07 pm ET)
           
        Give me an example of someone from the left who made a remark that doesn't support the troops. Seriously.
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    • Author by dadre (July 07, 2009 5:25 pm ET)
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      Wow Bush definitely did a great job with the Iraq war...when we came in the people shot at us....when we crushed their souls they wanted us to leave and when we just get out of the city they throw us the going away/don't like the door hit ya on the way out party of a lifetime.....hmm....I think I something is missed...oh yeah a victory/thank you party it must have got canceled in all that love for the U.S........

      Also I think that the republicans actually want the troops to fail because they send them into wars we can't win and then want them to die to fight so that we can be liked by the rest of the world.....like the slaves would the plantation owners after slavery.....or Hitler at a Hanukkah party.
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    • Author by jbraskin4786 (July 07, 2009 6:47 pm ET)
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      Ummmm....World War II?

      Weren't many of the people who were isolationists and Nazi sympathizers the wingnuts of that era?
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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (July 07, 2009 9:47 pm ET)
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      This clown,(BELLING) exhibits all the intellegence and common sense of a dead skunk.
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    • Author by jlmincey (July 08, 2009 4:04 am ET)
         
      I didn't think that it was possible, but they managed to find someone more nonsenseical and annoying then Rush limbaugh. And frankly I am confused as to what his point is. He was saying that we thought Afganistan was more important then Iraq (which it was), we pulled out of Iraq and re-concentrated our efforts on Afganistan, liberals support the war in Afganistan like we said we did, and somehow that is a bad thing against us.
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    • Author by puttforever4682 (July 08, 2009 8:33 am ET)
         
      I for one, would like the argument for fighting in Afghanistan to be articulated. It seems to me that the Soviet Union failure in Afghanistan might give us pause. The difficulty of "winning" in my mind makes our involvement highly questionable.
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    • Author by bintx (July 08, 2009 12:58 pm ET)
         
      This guy is an a**. Just heard him say that Obama needed to do more than "moon walk across the stage at the Staples Center."

      My conservative friends consider me liberal and my liberal friends consider me conservative, but one thing we all do is support our troops.
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