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Fox's Napolitano refers to stimulus bills as "bailouts" 

July 08, 2009 6:15 pm ET

From the July 8 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

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    • Author by mk3872 (July 08, 2009 6:21 pm ET)
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      And he is RIGHT! I mean, I wish & wish day after day that instead of infrastructure projects to put people to work, that we would have taken the Republican approach and enacted their "bill" full of clever never-tried ideas like lowering taxes on corporations, lowering taxes on the highest income earners (the HARD workers) and eliminating capital gains taxes.

      Then we'd see REAL growth and millions of new jobs by now!
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      • Author by The_Cat (July 08, 2009 6:35 pm ET)
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        Oh, Laffer is right. He is very very far Right. He's the genius that gave us supply side economics, also known as voodoo economics, according to Bush Sr. I clearly remember how well those Republican policies all worked out, especially for the savings and loan industry!

        The conservative talking heads are so intent on emphasizing the $787 billion stimulus package that they fail to apprehend the $12 trillion hole it is attempting to fill. Plus, they have totally jumped the gun on saying the stimulus hasn't worked. It's already slowed the sliding jobs and housing markets. It took nine years and a world war to pull us out of the Great Depression, folks, and this one is going to last for a couple of years at least.
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      • Author by ggoodman4693 (July 09, 2009 4:55 am ET)
           
        HARD workers in today's America work 2 jobs at minimum wage. Many HARD workers are sub-minimum Mexicans and Guatemalans. Educated workers may be low to mid-level earners, under 100K. Some small biz owners are very hard working.

        But the HIGHEST INCOME EARNERS in America don't do a frickin thing and produce nothing. The highest income earners made a killing buying oil futures contracts and upselling them to the next schlub who did the same repeated on average 27 times until oil was $140 a barrel and some traders walked away with a Billion dollars per person.

        The HIGHEST INCOME EARNERS lied about the value of their packaged mortgage securities, got AIG to "guarantee" them without having any capital to back up the guarantee, and either sold them or used them as collateral for loans or banks used them as a "capital" base for creating new loans, even though everyone understood they were dealing with garbage.

        Stickmen video discussing the Mortgage Meltdown explains well.

        Michael Hudson, economist, agrees on reducing capital gains --- on actual productive capital, which is what the 'founders' of capitalism meant. They did not intend for 'capital gains' to mean 'inflated land values' or RENT (privileged access fees) for minerals like oil, coal, gas, gold, etc. In this case, capital gains are nothing more than a sophisticated TAX by the rich (and well connected to govt) on everyone else.

        The old simple rules taught in the 3rd grade stopped applying after the Civil war when the GOVERNMENT started permitting "General Incorporation", instead of just churches or special restricted State regulated temp incorporation. Every corporation is a GOVT agency, because GOVT is what defines what a corporation is .... a govt-protected company.
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    • Author by blueline99 (July 08, 2009 6:27 pm ET)
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      This must be today's Republican talking point. How else do you explain multiple commentators discussing a second stimulus package, when no one from Congress or the Executive branch has announce such a thing.

      And the Stimulus is not a bailout... it's an attempt to put people to work by performing infrastructure work that is badly needed in this country. The private sector certainly isn't hiring, as unemployment reaches 9.5%.

      I suppose the "right" thing to do is just let everyone be unemployed until this turns into a depression.
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    • Author by ReasonAndResolve (July 08, 2009 6:31 pm ET)
         
      blah blah blah
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    • Author by LIBERTY OR DEATH (July 08, 2009 6:43 pm ET)
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      The so called stimulus bill has not stimulated anything but unemployment my be that will change after more of the money is spent, but I am not counting on it.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (July 09, 2009 11:59 am ET)
           
        And HOW has it "stimulated unemployment" exactly? And go back to Macro-Econ 101 before you try to answer. You're looking like a C-Student right about now.
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    • Author by snoopy (July 08, 2009 6:47 pm ET)
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      Yeah, that stimulus package, which made COBRA insurance affordable for people like me. Now that I have insurance, I'm directly contributing to the employment of at least 1 docter, a medical assistant, a dentist, two office aids and two insurance contacts. Yup, no job creation there...
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    • Author by seroquel (July 08, 2009 6:51 pm ET)
         
      More nonsense and spin from the nether regions...
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    • Author by shaggles (July 08, 2009 6:57 pm ET)
         
      The right really has trouble distinguishing the bailouts from the stimulus from the budget.
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    • Author by oscar the grouch (July 08, 2009 9:16 pm ET)
         
      There does appear that there are some jusidictions out there that are using the Federal funds as bailouts for local/state shortfalls. But if those funds are being spent to cover maintenance shortfalls, for example, (road repair) it is ok, but if they are being used to pay down debt, the primary beneficiaries will be the rich (who can afford to buy munis, etc). For Shame.
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      • Author by jlmincey (July 08, 2009 10:55 pm ET)
           
        And that is exactly what was wrong with Bush's attempted stimulus package. Instead of creating any jobs or anything like that he sent people checks hoping they would buy things, but instead most of it went to paying off people's credit card debt.
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      • Author by oscar the grouch (July 08, 2009 11:39 pm ET)
           
        "jurisdictions" (wish there was a preview/spell check feature here)
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        • Author by OnceYouGoBarack (July 09, 2009 1:55 am ET)
             
          Use FireFox. It has a real-time spell checker built in.
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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (July 09, 2009 7:01 am ET)
         
      Wish these right wing crackpots would make up their mind. They are complaining that only 10 percent of the stimulus has been spent, and then they start screaming how we are spending ourselves into bankruptcy.

      Come on make up your mind, my head is spinning around way to fast trying to keep up with the right wing crackpots.

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      • Author by fairliberal (July 09, 2009 9:27 am ET)
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        Applying the same logic, how can anybody talk about a 2nd stimulus when the first one has not even had a chance to work or even to be implemented. Where have all the shovel ready projects disappeared to.
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        • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (July 09, 2009 10:07 am ET)
             
          I am at a loss, where was the logic in the right wing crackpots thinking? That was the point there was NO LOGIC as is typical.

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          • Author by fairliberal (July 09, 2009 12:39 pm ET)
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            I am inferring that your statement is suggesting that since only 10% of the $$ has been spent, we must wait longer to see if the stimulus will work. That is certainly a reasonable position to take but perhaps I should not have assummed that. If that was what you were suggesting it also points out that a 2nd stimulus should not even be pushed now as some in the Obama administration are beginning to suggest.

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            • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (July 09, 2009 5:50 pm ET)
                 
              I wasn't taking a stand on whether a second stimulus bill should be in the works or not.

              Why is it so difficult for you to understand I was pointing out the two faced right wing crackpots, that while complaining that only 10% of the stimulus money has been spent, yet in the same breath they are complaining that the administration is spending us into bankruptcy.

              If you can't see that hypocrisy, you should fit right into the right wing crackpot side of things
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    • Author by jmh (July 10, 2009 2:49 pm ET)
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      not one word from Napolitano on either
      1. constructive alternatives to dealing with the economic crisis
      2. admission that the economic crisis is due to a Failure of Market-Capitalism, in its current form.
      Is there no one in the republican party interested in solutions?
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    • Author by phredicles (July 10, 2009 7:35 pm ET)
         
      Just to keep my Reich-Wing Scorecard straight, Napolitano is the one Stephanie Miller calls "Judge No-forehead", yes?
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