Buchanan: "Todd Palin ought to take Levi down to the creek and hold his head underwater until the thrashing stops"
July 13, 2009 9:34 am ET
From the July 13 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:
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Do these idiots even listen to themselves?
It was a joke you idiot. Lighten up.
No, I did not. Apparently, someone can't comprehend the words on the screen.
Do I think Pat is advocating murder? No, probably not, but one has to be careful with the words that they say on TV. He didn't say it in a joking manner, but I took it to mean something like when someone says, "Man, I could just kill you." not meaning actual killing, but to do harm.
So are you OK with Pat advocating harm to Levi? Which is what he is really doing.
I seem to recall Liz Trotta laughing when she "joked" about assassinating Obama and bin Laden . . . and later apologizing.
Why would she need to apologize for a "joke"?
No, I did not. Apparently, someone can't comprehend the words on the screen.
Do I think Pat is advocating murder? No, probably not, but one has to be careful with the words that they say on TV. He didn't say it in a joking manner, but I took it to mean something like when someone says, "Man, I could just kill you." not meaning actual killing, but to do harm.
So are you OK with Pat advocating harm to Levi? Which is what he is really doing.
Your fellow teabagging terrorists are always advocating murder on live tv when they insist we bomb Iran, Iraq, NK, Cuba, Russia, etc., etc., etc
Terror from the Right: 75 plots, conspiracies and racist rampages since Oklahoma City
He said conservative = terrorism. That is pretty clear.
Is Obama not a terrorist by your standards for not removing ALL US troops from Iraq the moment he took office? Is he not adding terrorists now?
Biden has a son serving in the war. Is he a terrorist?
Please harley, educate us all with your world view.
He wasn't equating all terrorists to conservatives, he was linking to a specific study/story.
So what else do you have?
"Ok,,,,so you are realllyyyyyyyyy going to tell me that Pat was serious, and advocating murder on live tv? You are dumber than I thought!!"
You'll have to forgive me, pointlessview -- I'm afraid I lack the insight into the mind of the wingnut that you so readily possess.
It's just SO difficult to tell when wingnuts are joking -- since wingnut "humor" always seems to involve murder.
Take, for example, the wit and wisdom of Crazy Annie Coulter:
"If I'm going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I'll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot."
"We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens' creme brulee. That's just a joke, for you in the media."
Perhaps. But a "joke" is suppose to be funny. Either he's serious or he's just providing more proof that reich-wing teabaggers are not funny...ever.
Murder is not something that needs to be used as a prop for laughs... even you POV should see that? And I think that is why MMfA has created a thread about it!
The corporate owned media has over the years created certain things to be acceptable over time... through TV to so-called 'news' casts...
I think we can all agree that 'murder' should not be seen as humorous or used too .... "lighten the mood"
I'd love to go around saying things like "If I could get away with it, I'd shoot Ann Coulter" or some other such nonsense. But I don't. (1) Because advoctaing violence is not funny. (2) It makes one sound like an idiot who doesn't have a real counter-argument to the person in question. (In the case of someone like Limbaugh and Coulter, the frustration is usually that there's so much BS that you don't even know where to start, but still - only fools talk like this.)
What's more, considering how up-in-arms conservatives get over the humor of Letterman, Bill Maher, Kevin Smith, etc... I find it rather hypocritical when they use the "It's a joke" defense.
plus those guys are actually FUNNY. Conservtaives only ever seem to be funny on a level equivalent to comedic thugery. (Sort of political equivalent of Andrew Dice Clay.) Leave the conservtive humor to the likes of Penn Gillette and PJ O'Rourke. The rest of you lot should stick to strait analysis. You still suck at it, but much less so.
After all, he was "joking" about the father of Sarah Palin's grandchild and family is off-limits.
Now, try again.
As is Pat's "joke" here.
A broadbrusing for which you have absolutely no proof.
I never once defended Letterman on this site or anywhere else.
Here's the thing - we didn't care about Letterman's remark, and we don't really care about Pat's. ALthough I think Pat's made a fool of himself (one again) I couldn't care less what kind of stupid sh!t he says.
But YOU LOT, who were SO OUTRAGED by Letterman, ought to step up and show the same outrage to Pat's comment.
But you won't, because you're all a bunch of thuggish hypocrites without a sinlge principle among you.
We're not saying you should share OUR outrage - we don't have any - only that you should judge these things remotely consistantly!!!
Karl Frisch: "He's a gap-toothed, late night comedian, and he's in justifiably hot water with conservatives for making some pretty vile jokes... Letterman did the right thing in apologizing twice for his tasteless attempts at humor..."
Yep, that's a pretty staunch declaration of no wrongdoing if I ever saw one.
Why is PB's joke ok, but Letterman's is not?
I agree with your reasoning, just didn't think Dave needed to go there, but my point stands. Where is the conservative outrage over this one?
we've lost our sense of humor, obviously. except of course for rush who gets away with murder (oops, wrong choice of words) in the name of humor.
speaking of which, all you ditto heads and right wing nut jobs need to realize that your mom lied to you all those years... she did raise a fool.
hey, that's a joke! lighten up.
Was "Lighten up" your reaction to Letterman, sir?
1) Did you laugh? I didn't.
2) If it -was- a joke, it's a very good thing that Buchanan's title is ANALyst, and not comedian... (See, -that- was a joke)
Waterboarding isn't meant to actually kill anyone. Pat's more in favor of full blown murder.
They had a terrible joke living in the White House for the past eight years.
Isn't that why everyone watches the news...for the black comedy?
BTW, did you hear the one about Hitler and Michelle Obama...?
Actually, it was another fine example of reichpublicans wanting to take away free speech from anyone who disagrees with him. It's loud and clear that the message from Buchannon was that Levi should shut up.
I agree, why is anyone asking Levi anything? He certainly learned something from Palin about using up your entire 15 minutes of fame, and trying to remain in the spotlight as much as possible.
Maybe Levi and Joe the Plumber can get their own Fox show?
Guys, that's just how conservatives in power tend to want to deal with anyone who doesn't go along.
Guys, that's just how conservatives in power tend to want to deal with anyone who doesn't go along.
Howie Kurtz may post an item on his blog saying, MMFA readers play dumb about Pat's Eli joke. MMFA readers play dumb about Pat's Levi joke.
What...are you kidding? Buchanan adores Palin and her husband...both of whom were his supporters. You should keep up with the news...
But, hey...don't you think Levi should get some of his buddies to gang rape Sarah Palin to get even with her...? Yuk, yuk, yuk... Funny, huh...?
One thing Pat is forgetting is the Mr. Palin has been called a lot of things except one..P-Whipped. Just look at the dude. Pat may not realize that this Levi kid may knock the "First PW'd" through the roof. He already sort of 'knocked' one of them into a different lifestyle.
Signed
D.Letterman, not the POW
Oh, yea...this is all just a joke. Hysterical, huh...?
Murder is not something that needs to be used as a prop for laughs... even you POV should see that? And I think that is why MMfA has created a thread about it!
The corporate owned media has over the years created certain things to be acceptable over time... through TV to so-called 'news' casts...
I think we can all agree that 'murder' should not be seen as humorous or used too .... "lighten the mood"
So much for Pat Buchanan's "pro-life" credentials....
So, what else is new? His end of the whip has not felt the lash of the other. Must be nice!
(At least, Pat is a very good ecologist, not wanting to cut trees for water-boards.)