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Quinn on Sotomayor's supporters: "All they care about is: she's got ovaries and she's Puerto Rican and therefore it's her turn"

July 16, 2009 4:42 pm ET

From the July 15th edition of Clear Channel's The War Room With Quinn & Rose:

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    • Author by The_Cat (July 16, 2009 4:58 pm ET)
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      'Leveling the playing field' and 'getting even for the past' are two entirely separate motivations, and Mr. Quinn makes himself out a bit of a fool by conflating them. Additionally, I always thought the point of civil rights was greater freedom and equality for -all- Americans. Do you now say this is a bad thing, sir?

      Racism against the dominant European culture in this country? Bring the country together?

      So, what these two are arguing for is one nation, ruled by wealthy white males at the behest of a single all powerful multinational corporation? Have I got that right? Because I think I'd prefer a republican form of democracy, where everyone has a voice.
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      • Author by proudconservative (July 16, 2009 5:41 pm ET)
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        da feline,

        The last thing this administration wants is individual freedom.

        Defining people as part of a 'victimized' group or class is what leftists do. The president found someone from a downtrodden group, never mind that went to a charter school in NYC, an Ivy league college and law school, he found someone that for flourish or giving a pep talk emphasized her ethnicity and gender on more than just one or two occassions.

        I could care less about race but what I am concerned about is people that identify themselves as such and such americans. That mentality breeds a racially based attitude that often leads to outright racism, where the getting even is more important than fairness or judging the quality of what's on the inside.

        Here is a great example of how leftists are all about race and the real racists:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FoekBjhtWE
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        • Author by nerzog (July 16, 2009 6:11 pm ET)
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          Wow. You're just a living, breathing dittobot talking point, aren't you?
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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (July 16, 2009 6:12 pm ET)
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          I'm trying to imagine PC even more stupid.

          I can't do it.
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          • Author by proudconservative (July 16, 2009 6:48 pm ET)
               
            Don't dodge guys, give evidence to the contrary or make a valid point. Don't just throw barbs and think that somehow makes you intellectual.

            Your lack of authentic thoughts proves just the opposite, your inability to rationally debate on a multitude of subjects or respond to ideas that challenge the worldview of leftists.

            I say the leftists think first of race and class before anything else.
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            • Author by The_Cat (July 16, 2009 6:50 pm ET)
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              "I say the leftists think first of race and class before anything else."

              "Don't dodge guys, give evidence to the contrary or make a valid point. Don't just throw barbs and think that somehow makes you intellectual."

              Have you ever before been hoisted by your own petard?
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              • Author by proudconservative (July 16, 2009 11:25 pm ET)
                   
                Only when one of my kids pull my finger!

                So, do you have any evidence that says the administration today is all about personal responsiblity and individual liberty?
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                • Author by The_Cat (July 17, 2009 9:18 am ET)
                     
                  Sure, and it's an easy one: Health care. President Obama is trying to create a public option for health insurance. That leaves the American public with a choice about which they would rather have. Choice is an essential part of liberty.

                  As for personal responsibility, the best way to reduce health care costs is to encourage people to lead more active lives. Keeping yourself healthier in the first place, in other words. Those who choose to do so, who choose to be personally responsible, will likely find lower premiums under the public option.
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                  • Author by proudconservative (July 17, 2009 11:54 am ET)
                       
                    Instead give them portability of a voucher to buy their own insurance. Taking the 1.5 trillion dollar number, each citizen or legal resident of this country could get $6500. I pay about $10000/yr for a family of 4. Put the extra $14,000 in an HSA that I control.

                    I think the philosophy of most polticians is that they know what is best for us. To give us this kind of freedom probably would make them shudder at the prospect of loosing that power over us.

                    That challenge of individual freedom is not going to fly if this administration.
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        • Author by TheKidFromKountyMeath (July 16, 2009 6:19 pm ET)
             
          Whoa, you're right: Jim Quinn is Irish-American, and he's a racist.
          Yes, leftists are the REAL racists. Hence the noted Democrats George Allen, Jesse Helms, Kim Hendren, Trent Lott, Betty Brown, Steve King and Pat Buchanan.
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        • Author by The_Cat (July 16, 2009 6:47 pm ET)
             
          To proudconservative:

          "The last thing this administration wants is individual freedom." Please supply at least one supporting fact.

          "Defining people as part of a 'victimized' group or class is what leftists do." What does this have to do with Sotomayor's nomination? If she had never served as a lawyer or judge, then this might be a valid argument -if- you could prove that race alone was responsible for her nomination. The fact is, even the Bar Association says that she is qualified for the job.

          So, she graduated cum laude from the same school where our former President maintained a 'C' average, and she gets -less- credit for her achievement? Aside from race and sex, what are you basing this on?

          "I could care less about race but..." See, just adding that last little word negates what went before. How it reads when you come to the 'but' is "I don't want to seem to care about race but..."

          As for the clip, you are arguing from specifics to generalities, which is a logical fallacy.
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          • Author by proudconservative (July 16, 2009 11:00 pm ET)
               
            Much of the president's history lay within the confines of socialist contacts, from Uncle Frank to his connecttion with communist activists in rallies at Cooper Hall to his own membership and seeking the endorsement of the democratic socialists of america in his first election run in Illinois.

            As far as the present, his hope to nationalize health care flies in the face of individual liberty, cap and trade which is a national tax on the individual's ability to start a small business, his appointment of czars to control pay scales for certain individuals. Micromanagement of industry and desire to limit free speech via either the guise of a fairness doctrine or the new model of 'localism'.

            Understanding marxism or socialism means the recognition of class/group conflict as a means of bringing about socio-political change, rich vs. poor, bourgeouis vs. proletariat, black vs. white,. These conflicts need to be continued to allow for remaking the political landscape. That's why the left can never allow a contrarian position or person to exist that proves them wrong. A black man becomes a sellout or uncle tom if they succeed without the action of the revolutionaries, so Justice Thomas continues to be vilified even if he has the respect of his peers. Estrada had to be stopped because he is a Honduran by birth, linked to the hispanics by democrat party members and deliberately kept from moving up by the left because he was hispanic, a conservative and outside the box the left could claim as their own.

            Making crises arise is also important to bring about revolution, ie 'global warming crisis', financial crisis, health care crisis are all necessary parts for the people to believe that an action needs to take place, even if it is the wrong thing or uneccessary, at least something is being done.

            As far as Sotamayer, others have also received te bar association's qualification but it mattered not. I contend that her presence on the bench will only allow for the victimization of race or class to be continued. Her judgement in the New Haven firemen case indicates that she will look for ways to support racial bias instead of justice and fairness.

            And I do care little about race. I would rather do as ML King said and look to the heart of people instead of color. The video showed clearly that Boxer was making the racial issue to invalidate what the gentleman was arguing. He was rightly offended. I see the left viewing the classes/races as foremost in indentifying who a person is or what they should believe. She was ill-eqipped to handle his response because she found it unfathomable that she could be a racist. Condecension is racism, in other words, you couldn't be where you are without my special help because you must not be capable to make it on your own.

            The video shows how insidious the racism of the left actually is, how dehumanizing and demeaning. That's the left's view of race and personal ability, not the conservative view like mine.
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            • Author by The_Cat (July 17, 2009 9:34 am ET)
                 
              The American Bar Association has said that Sotomayor is very qualified for a position on the U.S. Supreme Court. Mr. Quinn was arguing that her nomination was only about her race and gender. I pointed out that this was incorrect to the point of being ludicrous. It is patently un-American for rich privileged wealthy white males to control everything, regardless of how badly they want to.

              President Obama is -not- trying to nationalize health care, but to provide a public option for health insurance. Health care will continue to be provided by a mix of public and private hospitals, clinics, and practices.

              You can say 'democrat socialists' all you want, but in fact it is called the Democratic Party. This is little better than playground name calling, and indicates a somewhat juvenile mentality.

              Cap and trade is not a tax on starting a small business, but an attempt to control pollution. Limiting free speech via a 'fairness' doctrine? Cite one piece of legislation signed by our President that does any such thing, please.

              Marxism is a political philosophy, and socialism is a economic policy. Learn the difference. Please.

              So, Estrada was held back for being Latina and Sotomayor chosen because she was Latina? This makes so little sense it's barely worth speaking of, except to note the foolishness.

              'Making crises arise'? You mean like the way Bush & Co. seized on 9-11 as an 'opportunity' to bring America ever closer to the fascist state that conservatives seem to be so eager for?

              And, we're back to the Boxer clip. Congratulations. You found one five minute segment illustrating one person's unfortunate choice of argument. If you watch the clip, it was actually him who leaped to the conclusion she was racist because of the sources she was quoting. I'm not defending her choice of argument, only pointing out that everyone has a little racism in them. In the case of Quinn, talking about Sotomayor, it was blatant and disgusting.
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              • Author by proudconservative (July 17, 2009 1:19 pm ET)
                   
                The 'public' option is a socialized system that will overwhelm any private provider choice. I think that is the intention.

                The term 'DemocratIC Socialists of America' is an actual political party of which the president sought an endorsement when he first ran for state office from Chicago. Check out the 'New Party' update.

                Remember that Obama then followed up with thethe DSA's endorsement above. He was required to submit a questionnaire to win this endorsement.

                What say you of the deliberate efforts of Durbin and others to stall Estrada's confirmation? He and others were a risk to minority groups why?

                Marxism, socialism, facism, communism are BOTH political and economic philosophies linked by their tenets and methodology of implementation.

                I think 9-11 was a real crisis that required a rational response to the attack. Remember facism is related to economic and political power in the hand of an individual, instead of a people's committee. The steps that Bush took were not permanent, overseen by congress(sorry princess pelosi and rockafello you knew and agreed to this) and was not used to destroy an opposition party, but terrorists.

                More than just a clip, Boxer's comments speak to the heart of liberals today, as massahs benificently managing a plantation.
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                • Author by TheKidFromKountyMeath (July 17, 2009 1:24 pm ET)
                     
                  As opposed to conservatives, who are massahs making jokes about how African-Americans are apes.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (July 16, 2009 5:07 pm ET)
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      And Quinn's criteria? He's got male organs and he's white.

      These terrified guys are giving white men a bad name. We're not all a bunch of cowardly racists.
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    • Author by proudconservative (July 16, 2009 5:09 pm ET)
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      Keep up the great work Quinn!

      Here's some history on why the democrat party senators are only looking at race and gender, its what they have to do to continue to do what socialists do, create class/group discord.

      Singling Out Estrada A June 2002 memo to Kennedy, Schumer, Durbin, and Cantwell urges delaying a hearing on Miguel Estrada in order to "give the groups time to complete their research." A November 2001 memo to Durbin also notes that the groups have "identified Miguel Estrada as especially dangerous, because he has a minimal paper trail, he is Latino, and the White House seems to be grooming him for a Supreme Court appointment. They want to hold Estrada off as long as possible." Later, a January 2003 memo advocates filibustering Estrada because "the Democratic base is particularly energized over this issue."


      And from this article: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/When-Democrats-derailed-a-GOP-Latino-nominee-46407227.html

      Democrats stonewalled Estrada's nomination, and, after losing control of the Senate in 2002, they began an unprecedented round of filibusters to block an entire slate of Bush appeals-courts nominees, Estrada among them. The confirmation process ground to a halt. More than two years after his nomination was announced, Estrada, tired of what appeared to be an endless runaround, withdrew his name from consideration. Instead of being on the federal bench, he is now in private practice in Washington.
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      • Author by political_left-religious_right (July 16, 2009 5:56 pm ET)
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        Keep up the great work Quinn!

        If you really think that what Quinn does is great, then that says a lot about you, and it isn't positive.

        Here's some history on why the democrat (sic) party senators are only looking at race and gender, its (sic) what they have to do to continue to do what socialists do, create class/group discord.

        You've got things so backward it's hilarious. First of all, it's the Democratic (learn to spell it right so you don't look so foolish) senators that are actually mentioning Sotomayor's record, and not the oft-debunked blather about a portion of a speech that was wrenched out of context.

        Second, anyone who purposefully conflates democrats with socialists probably doesn't know the denotation of either one, but just has a nebulous notion, fed to them by Rush and his ilk, that they go hand in hand. I'm a democrat, and I'm no socialist. And there are millions upon millions like me.

        And finally, creating class/group discord is another special talent of your end of the spectrum. Have you forgotten, to name one case among many, Justice Alito's membership in an organization that tried to keep women and minorities out of Princeton? What is that, if not class/group discord?
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        • Author by proudconservative (July 16, 2009 11:22 pm ET)
             
          The democrat party is not the democratic party that I belonged to when I began to act politically. It's changed and my protest stands, besides, conservatives and republicans get called far worse. Get over it.

          Out of context? Maybe if only stated once, but it seemed to be a regular part of her speeches.

          Take a basic poli-sci class and see the political connections in the ideals of today's democrat party and socialists. Power is vested in a limited group/committee/politburo that decides what is best for the proletariat. Nationalize this, czar that and wa-la, we're in a socialist utopia, not America,

          As far as Alito, didn't he join that group after graduating and in protest of the removal the ROTC program(another democrat dream) at Princeton? Maybe it wasn't up to La Raza standards but he certainly wasn't active in all aspects of the group.
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          • Author by The_Cat (July 17, 2009 9:44 am ET)
               
            To be a socialist country, the government would have to be in control of private industry. It's not. It's actually not even close. Does the government hold majority shares in GM? Yes. Ford? No. Chrysler? No. Not to mention all the smaller car companies that are privately or publicly owned.

            Does the government control every hospital, doctor, nurse and pharmacy? Again, not even close. What about farmers? Are they all working for the government? No. What about textiles? Nope. And on and on and on. President Obama is -not- trying to create a socialist utopia, and we are nowhere near being a socialist nation. The fact that you know big words like politburo and proletariat does not prove that you know what you are talking about, or that you have gained your point.

            Keep calling it the democrat party. You are either too foolish or too ignorant to know better, and every time you say it, a little more of your slight credibility slips away.
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      • Author by TheKidFromKountyMeath (July 16, 2009 6:21 pm ET)
           
        I don't recall Miguel Estrada ever being accused of being a member of "the Latino KKK". I'm going to assume that occurred within your head, since you are, after all, full of it. Keep on truckin', Troll-American.
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        • Author by proudconservative (July 16, 2009 11:04 pm ET)
             
          But deliberatey denying him the opportunity he earned for political/racial reasons is ok? Which racism is worse?

          And he was never a member of a group called 'The Race' and all that a group like that would stand for.
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          • Author by TheKidFromKountyMeath (July 17, 2009 10:10 am ET)
               
            "La Raza" accurately translates to "the people" or "the community". If you just admitted you were terrified of Hispanics, you would be slightly more worthy of respect.
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            • Author by proudconservative (July 17, 2009 12:10 pm ET)
                 
              I'm not fearful of hispanics or any other group of Americans. What I am fearful of are illegal immigrants and their impact upon the country.

              I don't speak espanol but it seems to be La-the? and Raza-race? on a hunch. Anyway, click to and check out the policies page especially as they relate to illegal immigrants.
              http://www.nclr.org/content/viewpoints/detail/42500/
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              • Author by TheKidFromKountyMeath (July 17, 2009 1:13 pm ET)
                   
                Are you Native American? No? Then shut up about immigration. The end.
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                • Author by proudconservative (July 17, 2009 1:22 pm ET)
                     
                  Yes I am, I was born in this country and affiliate myself with no other.
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                  • Author by TheKidFromKountyMeath (July 17, 2009 1:26 pm ET)
                       
                    Oh, so you think the children of illegal immigrants born in this country should be allowed to stay? Good. Glad you have at least one non-bigoted opinion.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (July 16, 2009 5:35 pm ET)
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      They've been brainwashed like the rest of them, they don't get it. Their attitude is an insult to our intelligence. Their politics are clearly identity politics-"I'm white and since other people are getting ahead, it isn't fair to me anymore because I actually have to be qualified before I can get the job I want. I'm such a victim and nobody likes me!" I am white, too, but I don't feel threatened by Judge Sotomayor! I don't think she is racist, but I sure as shootin' think these two nutjobs are!
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    • Author by TheKidFromKountyMeath (July 16, 2009 6:10 pm ET)
         
      Whereas all Quinn the Eskimo cares about is: she's got ovaries, and she's Puerto Rican, and therefore she'll bring about the end of civilization.
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    • Author by nerzog (July 16, 2009 6:13 pm ET)
         
      I'm more interested in what qualifies putrid dumbasses like Quinn to be Radio Talk Show hosts.

      I've pondered this for years, and nobody seems to have an answer.
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      • Author by princeofwheels (July 16, 2009 8:51 pm ET)
           
        Quinn, your daugthers have ovaries and you as a father...where does that put them in the grand scale?
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        • Author by proudconservative (July 16, 2009 11:33 pm ET)
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          My guess is that his expectations of his kids have nothing to do with gender. The left would look to define them first as female and all the obligation to level the playing field from that point forward.

          queen of flats, how's that liberal talk radio doing in the Steel town? And will dem stillers repeat?
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          • Author by TheKidFromKountyMeath (July 17, 2009 1:14 pm ET)
               
            Did you just claim CONSERVATIVES don't care about enforcing gender roles? You HAVE to be a parody troll.
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        • Author by TheKidFromKountyMeath (July 17, 2009 1:16 pm ET)
             
          If you're Jim Quinn's daughter, you are, on the grand scale (or any scale) EXTREMELY unlucky, and probably screwed up beyond belief from having a misogynistic bigot around all the time.
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