At top of radio show, CNN's Dobbs repeatedly says Obama needs to "produce a birth certificate"
July 17, 2009 10:50 am ET
From the July 15 edition of United Stations Radio Networks' The Lou Dobbs Show:
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Could you please teach Lou Dobbs how to use the internet? I suggest going to Google or Factcheck.org or perhaps even Snopes. Also you might want to mention to Lou that the President of the United States doesn't take orders from wingnuts or their heroes on the airwaves, one of those being Lou Dobbs.
"Do you have any papers to -prove- that these are your papers?"
Randy
It is clear at this point that releasing a "long form" will not satisfy their conspiracy loving hearts. A few have even pre-emptively argued that too much time has passed and that any release will likely be a forgery.
What I want to know is how Obama traveled in a time machine to August 13th 1961 (9 days after his birth) and was able to get birth announcements (that came from the Hawaii Dept. of Health) into two separate newspapers? Why doesn't Obama share his time traveling capabilities with the rest of the world? Selfish B@stard!
Then, all of this will go away.
You ever wonder why the bobbleheads questioning Obama are over-paid, over-stuffed white guys? It's simple--the cannot believe that a black man is actually the president. The only way that could happen, they believe but are too afraid to say, is if the black man somehow cheated.
In the meantime, I'm content to wait for the day, in the not too distant future, when the actuarial charts catch up with them.
But I'm sure all you liberals will love all the misinformation she'll be dishing out to you all.
Every main stream media person is on a race to win this distinction, seems to me.
Dobbs, Oreilly, Buchanan are all catering to the same dwindling crowd.
Case in point, sensing they are not getting much more mileage out of this they are not calling for a change to law so that mearly being born on US soil is not good enough.
Then, he went on to say, they're proposing a law that if you do have a baby in the US, you have to be fingerprinted, checked through by the Dept of Homeland Security before a birth certificate is issued.
Of course, never bothering to think that they would have to amend the US Constitution to pull this off, and something tells me they're not going to amend it for this crap.
If the Supreme Court has ruled that a provision of the Constitution is to be interpreted in a certain way, Congress does not have the power to change this interpretation. To effect the change they want, conservatives would either need to pack the Supreme Court with like-minded people who would overturn precedent, or the Congress and the state legislatures would have to get behind a constitutional amendment changing the language of the Fourteenth Amendment to limit citizenship by birth to persons lawfully present in the United States.
- magnolialover
Hm -- so, in other words, if this law was passed, that would render the 87.5 per cent of the US population of 300 million that was born on US soil as ... illegals.
I wonder if that guy stopped to think that might include HIM??
More proof wingnuts never think things through.
He also wants California to not allow children of illegals, who are US citizens, to get benefits (like welfare and or food stamps), because as he said, "They don't deserve them." Forgetting of course that the kids he's talking about are legal US citizens and all.
I swear that Obama could cure cancer and the GOP talking heads would put a negative slant to it. Obama cures cancer but why did he allow so many to die before he decided to help? Whatever.
When Obama originally released the COLB, a birther claimed Obama used his sister's supposed Hawaiian COLB (who was incidentally born in Indonesia) to forge his COLB. This was all rumor before Hawaii came out and said the document was indeed authentic.
The argument has now become that Obama was born in Kenya, but went immediately to Hawaii to claim US citizenship - because it was more valuable. Although it appears Obama's mother oddly did not bother to do the same for Obama's sister who apparently has an Indonesian birth certificate.
As an interesting note, the birthers claim non-citizens can get COLB's by citing Sun Yat Sen as a example - which predates statehood by decades - and strangely enough by citing Obama's sister - who does not seem to have a Hawaii COLB anywhere I can see other than the unfounded and completely discredited rumor that Obama used it to forge his own COLB.
The whole thing is a farce. The birthers make stuff up to create one lie and then refer back to the made up stuff in their new attacks as if it is settled fact.
I dunno know about that -- as much as Bush butchered the English language . . .
OBAMA HAS PRODUCED HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!
Good lord, these people are dense. Obama is a natural born American citizen.
"Don't show your birth certificate. Your friends don't need it and your enemies won't believe you anyway."
What's the difference between these guys and the people who thin that 9/11 was an inside job?
Officials for the State of Hawaii have already stated on the record that (1) the Certification of Live Birth is an official Hawaii document which is accepted as prima facie evidence of Obama's Hawaiian birth and is sufficient proof for the U.S. State Department to issue a passport and (2) Obama's long form birth certificate is filed and in conformity with Hawaii law.
To believe this is insufficient, you have to believe that the Certification of Live Birth is fraudulent or a forgery and that Hawaii officials are en masse involved in a conspiracy/cover-up. I guess every generation has to have its Zapruder film...
1. confirm the president-elect meets the minimal requirements:
a. natural born citizen.
b. at least 35 years old.
2. confirm the electoral college's count, and officially declare
the winner.
all of this was done by dec. 2008. is he seriously suggesting that, were there any real question regarding the location of obama's birth, that not one senate republican would have spoken out, prior to ratifying the nov. vote?
considering some of the republican wackadoodles in the senate, i don't believe this for a nano-second.
Yeah, right.
Please remember, it is not the question that is wrong to ask, it is the answer which may be devistating.
BREAL
We must put aside the Political party assocations, we are all americans in this Country and we all either benefit or are destroyed by the elected officials. We the people need to keep these individuals in check. Is that to much to ask?
As of right now, 100% of all living witnesses to Obama's birth state unequivocaly that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya.
I remember. I also remember JFK in a 1962 speech saying how evil secrets are in the media and within the government. As long as Obama refuses to show his real birth certificate which is as simple as opening a drawer and getting it then he is guilty of adding fuel to this fire. Instead of calling each other names why not intelligently debate this thing? Why does he a have a team of lawyers at tax payers expense in every state ready to fight the release of his birth certificate if it comes to trial? What could be so secret about a birth certificate? If it were a small matter then they would not have included it in the Constitution. I am a realist, I need proof, as an American shame on you for not demanding more from your politicians. Thank you again LOU!