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Quinn to "schmuck" Obama: No U.S. "dark past" of slavery, "this was the civilization that had the tenacity to end it"

July 17, 2009 1:50 pm ET

From the July 17 edition of Clear Channels The War Room with Quinn and Rose:

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Previously:

Quinn to "race-baiting" African-American "ingrates": "get on your knees" and "kiss the American dirt" because slavery brought them to U.S.

Quinn stated that unlike welfare recipients, slaves "had to work" for food, housing

Quinn apologizes for comments comparing welfare to slavery

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    • Author by kalentros (July 17, 2009 2:00 pm ET)
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      A**holes like this, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Buchanan were so much easier to look at when they wore their white hoods. At least then you didn't have to see their disgusting faces.

      Seriously, there are people who listen to this kind of crap on a daily basis?
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      • Author by princeofwheels (July 17, 2009 2:41 pm ET)
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        After the roosters quiet down. And if they aren't moving the double-wide that day. (I used to have a double-wide and they are nice.)
        Schmuck, that is laughable from a schmuck like this jagoff.
        If you listen to Quinney the Sexual Harrasser you will realize that he has no substance and reads other peoples writings but rarely gives them credit.
        And then we have his, as SOME say, under the desk assistant phony Christian, backing him up. Today she read the 10 Commandments of Obama. Doesn't this dirtbag realize that everytime she calls Obama the Savior, the Chosen One that she slams her religion. What a pice of crap this woamn is..to think you are a Christian because you DO nice things is not a license to hate others..She has already said she hates Obama.
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        • Author by Übermensch (July 17, 2009 2:49 pm ET)
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          jagoff...i miss the Pittsburgh area
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          • Author by princeofwheels (July 17, 2009 2:55 pm ET)
               
            Pittsburghers laugh at these two...but they are big in the hills and valleys in Central Pa...at least 20 of thier 80 listeners live there. W.Virginia and Western Ohio fill-in the remainder.
            For those not familiar..jagoff means jagoff or someone like Quinn
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            • Author by juliajayne1 (July 17, 2009 3:27 pm ET)
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              It's my feeling that the country mice might benefit from just a few more visits to the city. They seem a little too safe eating up their form of barley and grain, which has long ceased to have nutritional value for their brains. But it sure seems to makes them feel comfortable.
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              • Author by snoopy (July 17, 2009 4:06 pm ET)
                   
                OK, I'm concerned here. Is there another JJ on MMFA? I see your name without the 1 on the end in the what would buchannon have to say to get fired thread. Did you split, or get cloned? Is this little doggy having wild thoughts about two JJ's at the same time disturbing? ;)
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                • Author by juliajayne1 (July 17, 2009 4:44 pm ET)
                     
                  Dawg, you had me skeeered for a second. I went back and saw that was June 8. And that was indeed me.

                  Now what's happened is that MMFA wouldn't accept changes in my email status and I couldn't use a gravatar unless I had a valid and current email address. So I went with JJ1, not trying to fool anyone there ;-) After getting monitored for what seemed like a month, I was finally able to post as Juliajyane1 with my new gravatar.

                  Now I hope I don't get in trouble for this because I did contact them twice by email and once by phone to say I had this problem.

                  So your dream of two JJs is legit! But I only use JJ1 now.
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        • Author by Bronwyn (July 18, 2009 7:17 pm ET)
             
          I used to have a double-wide and they are nice
          LOL
          Prince, I wondered if the Wheels was because your castle was on wheels. Now I see it's just the way you roll. Your chariots on wheels?

          These freaks, Quinn, Limbaugh, Cunningham and their ilks, wouldn't know a true Christian if one bit them on the ass. Unfortunately there are many racists, selfish pigs that call themselves Christians.

          It amazes me how many of them are truly ugly to the bone. They are ugly inside outside.
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      • Author by pam95650 (July 17, 2009 2:45 pm ET)
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        yes, I know people who religiously listen to Hannity, Limbaugh and Beck. As a matter of fact these people are in my family. So we stay away from politics when we meet.
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    • Author by mjh (July 17, 2009 2:01 pm ET)
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      Quinn to "schmuck" Obama: No U.S. "dark past" of slavery, "this was the civilization that had the tenacity to end it"


      We sure did, Jimbo.

      Too bad it was only AFTER --

      - participating in it for 249 years

      - ending the slave TRADE 60 years earlier

      - numerous attempts to expand it to the western territories

      - fighting a bloody Civil War

      - a constitutional amendment finally did so


      I believe it was Winston Churchill who said, "You can always count on the Americans to do the one right thing -- after they've done all the wrong ones."

      Jim, please -- don't say another word until you've opened a history book . . .

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      • Author by dmhack (July 17, 2009 2:10 pm ET)
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        Well said, mjh.
        I wouldn't count on him opening a history book, let alone reading one.
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        • Author by progressiveright (July 17, 2009 2:12 pm ET)
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          Facta are the one thing that the right hates because they get in the way of the truth.
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      • Author by fairliberal (July 17, 2009 2:27 pm ET)
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        - participating in it for 249 years


        May I remind you that the country is only 233 years old. And when the constitutional amendment was passed the country was only 89 years old. It seems we learned alot quicker than most who participated in slavery, especially the countries that still engage in slavery. How long did Winston churchill's country engage in slavery?
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        • Author by Brabantio (July 17, 2009 2:35 pm ET)
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          I think there were still people here before 1776.
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        • Author by foghornleghorn (July 17, 2009 2:37 pm ET)
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          Using the google:

          In Britain, William Wilberforce had taken on the cause of abolition in 1787 after the formation of the Committee for the Abolition of the Slave Trade, inwhich he led the Parliamentary campaign to abolish the slave trade in the British Empire with the Slave Trade Act 1807, also campaigned for the abolition of slavery in British Empire, which he lived to see in the Slavery Abolition Act 1833

          You may unwrap yourself from the flag at anytime.

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          • Author by mjh (July 17, 2009 4:26 pm ET)
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            "You may unwrap yourself from the flag at anytime."

            Fog, as thin-skinned as fairlyawingnut is, if he ever unwrapped himself from the flag, I fear his internal organs would tumble out . . .

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        • Author by Disputed Zone (July 17, 2009 2:47 pm ET)
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          Plus, slavery continued well into the 20th century.
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        • Author by princeofwheels (July 17, 2009 2:48 pm ET)
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          Fearliberals,
          Boy am I glad I didn't cheat off of you in history class. Zangy did much better..but he could've studied more so we could both get better grades. That lazy bum.
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        • Author by vysotsky (July 17, 2009 3:03 pm ET)
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          Pop quiz, fairliberal:

          1) Who was the first U.S. President who was born in the United States?

          2) Can you figure out why the answer to that question is relevant to your statement about how "we learned alot [sic] quicker than most who participated in slavery"?
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        • Author by aybayb (July 17, 2009 3:08 pm ET)
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          Why oh why do so many American chauvinists insist--and apparently even believe--all of that "We're Number One!" foolishness? In any category of success, superiority, or competition that comes up, there is ALWAYS some clown (usually, many millions of clowns) who claims, with absolute certainty, that the USA is "Number One!", even when it turns out that the USA is, in fact, "Number 142" or some other mediocre rank. Can't they learn to live with the Truth?! Isn't the Truth good enough for them?

          Americans need to get over both their arrogance AND their stupidity...such traits are incredibly UNbecoming (and dangerous!)
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          • Author by Bronwyn (July 18, 2009 7:52 pm ET)
               
            Because their heroes like Hannity and Rush spew America #1 day after day on t.v. and radio. Hannity, thinks it is a sin to even admit America has made mistakes. You hate America if you even hint at it. God forbid you should ever apologize for anything the U.S. has done.

            Idiot Hannity, is totally clueless at how stupid and arrogant he is and how stupid and arrogant our president would look if he went around bragging about all the good the U.S. has done and ignoring it's mistakes, as Hannity insists President Obama should be doing. In my travels, I found it is that arrogance, that other countries hated about America.
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            • Author by mjh (July 19, 2009 11:55 am ET)
                 
              "Why oh why do so many American chauvinists insist--and apparently even believe--all of that "We're Number One!" foolishness?" - aybayb

              "Because their heroes like Hannity and Rush spew America #1 day after day on t.v. and radio." - robyn


              Correct, robyn . . . and the funny thing is, five seconds later, they'll remind their sheeple to be DEATHLY AFRAID of something {Muslims, Obama, brown people, immigrants, etc.}

              You'd THINK a country that's "No. 1" wouldn't have to be afraid of anything -- except maybe a temporary slip to No. 2 . . .
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              • Author by Bronwyn (July 19, 2009 8:22 pm ET)
                   
                You'd THINK people so Christian, would have more faith in their God and wouldn't have to be afraid of anything--except maybe a fear, that their God has lost faith in them. Just maybe in the recesses of their narrow minds, they fear that their God may not approve of their racist, war mongering, self serving attitudes and lifestyles.
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        • Author by dmhack (July 17, 2009 3:36 pm ET)
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          Geesh, fairliberal, try cracking a history book before you get on your horse. This isn't Fox Nation, bud.
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        • Author by snoopy (July 17, 2009 3:38 pm ET)
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          Yeah, we learned a lot quicker - most do when the choice is forced on you at gunpoint. It took a war to end slavery in this country. Maybe we should have another one so we can end rightwing racism and bigotry.
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        • Author by jonesjax2374 (July 17, 2009 4:09 pm ET)
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          England ended slavery in 1833. So "WE" weren't the civilization that ended it first.
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        • Author by mjh (July 17, 2009 4:30 pm ET)
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          "May I remind you that the country is only 233 years old." - fairlyawingnut


          May I remind YOU that the first indentured servants were brought to the US in 1619 . . .

          I know its hard to believe, but, as Brabantio said, there were people here prior to 1776.

          Failliberal, I'm gonna do something I rarely do, and that's give you advice I read on a t-shirt:

          "Don't let your mind wander . . . it's much too small to be out by itself" . . .

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      • Author by tman418 (July 19, 2009 12:51 pm ET)
           
        It's just like when Bush said, "We kept the nation safe for 8 years"

        Yeah, after SEPTEMBER 11th and THE ANTHRAX ATTACKS happened on your watch.
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    • Author by progressiveright (July 17, 2009 2:02 pm ET)
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      Britton had outlawed slavery befor the US civil war so had many other Eupopian contries but I guess they dont count to Quinn because they are not the United States.
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      • Author by progressiveright (July 17, 2009 2:05 pm ET)
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        This is why Lincoln used the Emancipation Proclamation to get England to side with the Union rather than the Confederacy. England was getting ready to support the south until this act.
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      • Author by shaggles (July 17, 2009 2:20 pm ET)
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        That's basically what I was going to post. But wingnuts like Quinn don't even know US history. How can they be expected to know European history?
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        • Author by IRONY 101 (July 17, 2009 2:32 pm ET)
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          History is for elitist liberals who think they're so smart. Quinn and his kind know what they know...whatever the hell that means. ;>)
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    • Author by vysotsky (July 17, 2009 2:17 pm ET)
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      You tell 'em, Quinn! Slavery isn't a dark part of American history at all. In fact we should be proud of it, because we can use it to show off just how horrible we grudgingly decided not to be. You know, Americans should be really proud of the Tuskegee experiments, too: "See how evil we can be when we want to? But trust us, we're not doing that now. Impressive, yeah?"
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      • Author by neon desert (July 17, 2009 3:52 pm ET)
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        Okay, you libs may have to read this slowly several times before you get it, but Quinns logic is unimpeachable:

        The magnitude of our national honor is inversely proportional to the number of times that we, as a nation, practice restraint, because the relative difficulty of practicing said restraint is inversely proportional to the number of times we succeed in practicing restraint, and national honor is directly proportional to the difficulty in practicing said restraint. Ergo, because we had slavery for which we eventually practiced restraint, our national honor is infinitely greater than if we had no slavery from which to restrain ourselves.

        Geez, it's so simple. What is wrong with you people?
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    • Author by TheKidFromKountyMeath (July 17, 2009 2:20 pm ET)
         
      HarleQuinn, GREAT BRITAIN beat us to abolishing slavery. Think about that. We have a worse human rights record than the BRITISH EMPIRE. And when we DID end slavery, people like YOU were calling everyone who worked towards it "race traitors" and "unChristian". How do you walk erect with this much stupid weighing you down?
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    • Author by Don Quixote (July 17, 2009 2:21 pm ET)
         
      Quinn's is a revisionist history. America was the last of "civilized" nations to abolish slavery and it took one of the bloodiest civil wars in all of history to make it happen. It nearly split the nation apart. Latin America and Europe banned slavery without nearly as much turmoil. The enormous economic headstart that this gave the U.S. may very well explain much of our current status is that worlds largest economy today.

      Furthermore, America practiced a unique form of slavery known as chattell slavery in which human slaves are by title, the personal property of their owners with zero rights and little to no hope of emancipation. At least other forms of slavery in history had emancipation options and some written rules of treatment which of course were often ignored.

      As a final point, 150 years ago isn't really that long at all. Americans tend to live in the present and future, and diminish history (maybe for a reason) in contrast to other cultures who retain national and cultural memory for millenia. There are many African Americans alive today with direct memories of former slave relatives or acquaintances who lived in their lifetime.

      This myth of U.S. slavery as "ancient history" that has no contemporary relevancy is only convenient for the Jim Quinns of the world. Jingoism based on revisionist national histories requires the erasure of inconvenient historical realities that don't fit the pervasive myth of U.S. moral exceptionalism. The system of slavery practiced uniquely in the U.S. begs for revision and/or erasure in order to differentiate us from others as a morally superior people. Most Americans can't stomach the truth, which is that we're hardly "the light of the world" as Quinn puts it.
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    • Author by seroquel (July 17, 2009 2:25 pm ET)
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      Quinn is the schmuck. He proves it everyday he opens his mouth.
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    • Author by bayushisan (July 17, 2009 2:33 pm ET)
         
      Yes the United States did end slavery in our country. All it took was a war, that was fought over multiple issues. Of course after that war business created wage slavery and we got to see the death and maiming of men, women and children until labor laws were enacted to protect them.

      Let's not forget Jim Crow laws and the "seperate and unequal" phases of the nation's history.

      Then look at how England fought to end slavery. William Wilburforce fought in the parliment for years to make it illegal and they were able to end it without the loss of blood and treasure.

      I wonder which side started the process better.
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    • Author by pros2pros2940 (July 17, 2009 2:35 pm ET)
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      Quinn & Rose area a couple of the biggest liars and nutcases in right wing radio.
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      • Author by princeofwheels (July 17, 2009 2:47 pm ET)
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        I will go out on the limb and call them...VERMIN, compliments of Uncle Mikey. He would chew these two up and spit them out. That is why they are 'friends' with the SissyBoy Hannity. They both get all giggled and flustered when the SissyBoy is around. I think Quinney moreso than the Great Phony One. Yes, I do not like this self-described Christian because she gives Christianity a bad name. She uses it to HATE people. She is a PHONY and is proud to teach her son the same hate.
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    • Author by mfinn7314 (July 17, 2009 3:23 pm ET)
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      Right, it just took around 80 years to abolish slavery then another 100 years to actually give Blacks equal rights. No shame in that? And let's not forget that despite the mostly great aspects of the Constitution, it excluded slaves rights, allowed them to continue in slavery, and counted them as 3/5 of a person. Again, nothing to be ashamed of here, nothing to see hear, move on, move on...
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    • Author by hisroyalmattness (July 17, 2009 3:33 pm ET)
         
      The sad part of Quinn and Rose, along with their listeners, is they are so oblivious to their ignorance. They truly belief their intelligence is beyond the grasp of liberals. He actually thinks we do not have a dark past. He actually thinks race relations were great right after the civil war. He doesn’t take into account the Jim Crowe South and segregation.
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    • Author by reanna-mator (July 17, 2009 5:39 pm ET)
         
      Wow. The paranoia is so thick you could spread it on toast. Not that I'd advise doing so.

      Doesn't this troll know that there's still slavery and human trafficking going on today? Talk about ethnocentrism.
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      • Author by princeofwheels (July 17, 2009 8:58 pm ET)
           
        Ethnocentrism, who was the first President botn in the US, JJ or JJ1, what is happening here? Big words, pop-quizzes and renewed fantasies, sounds like a night at C-Street.
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    • Author by WhatImlost (July 18, 2009 3:47 am ET)
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      Yes Jim Quinn we the civilization that ended salvery.

      Thats why durring the Civil War France and England we willing to support the Confederacy and joined them in the wars, because they we all slave powers.....

      Actually wait I forgot England and France wouldnt openly support the confederacy because as "free" nations they didnt want to give up moral superority (as your people would put it)by being alied with a slave power

      1772: Britan outlaws slavery in england (not the empire)
      1777: Scotland outlaws slavery
      1794: France outlaws slavery
      1807: Britan bans the slave trade in the empire
      1808: US bans slave trade
      1815: Congress of Vienna bans the slave trade in all of Europe
      1833: Britan bans slavery in the empire
      1865: US bans slavery

      Wow looks like the US was on the cutting edge of Abolition, ending it a meer 87 years after Britan, 69 years after France, 32 years after the British Empire.....yep we the nation with the courage to free the slaves....and the only ones with the guts to need a WAR to make it Illegal.

      Jim Quinn is a moron
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      • Author by princeofwheels (July 18, 2009 6:12 am ET)
           
        100 years from now they'll have a list like the above concerning Health Care...at the bottom..United States adopts Health Care System for all of its citizens.
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        • Author by mjh (July 18, 2009 2:58 pm ET)
             
          . . . and, there'll be another Jim Quinn-type idiot talking head gushing about how this civilization was the one on the "cutting edge" to adopt it . . .
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      • Author by Bronwyn (July 18, 2009 8:10 pm ET)
           
        Don't we still owe each of them 40 acres and a mule? With interest, what would that debt be now?
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    • Author by tuttlm21 (July 18, 2009 11:28 am ET)
         
      He acts like he’s mad America supposedly went against its own interest to end slavery, when American wouldn’t be respected any where in the world if they didn’t end it. Quinn is one of the worse. Because just like Hannity, he actually believes his own lies. He says America doesn’t have a dark past.. he actually believes that the dark past ended with slavery, and didn't go until the 70's. The fact that people like him and Rush are around is still showing that we have to fix our past. And how racist is it that he thinks the guy from the NBPP is speaking for Obama, when the only thing they have in common is skin color.
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