Bulls & Bears host asks if health care proposals take us "one step closer to United Socialist States of America"
July 18, 2009 10:56 am ET
From the July 18 edition of Fox News' Bulls & Bears:
In fact, contrary to Buttner's claim that businesses "will see an 8 percent tax hike" if they don't "sign on to government-run health care," the 8 percent penalty would actually apply to companies with annual payrolls over $400,000 that don't provide health insurance to their workers.
Also: Fox's Henneberg falsely claimed Democrats in White House "want government-run health-care programs"
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That these paid-for un-American right-wing corporate whores keep repeating the same old outdated lies about issue after issue, over and over and over again...
or that there are still uneducated, "lead me by my nose because I can't think for myself Americans" that still fall for these corporate lies in a time where there is more information out there than just Fox-Noise!
Which proves that critical thinking is sadly... a dying skill?
Damn socialist!
We've got dirtier minds that those other guys.
Hey, here is a great article about the new Surgeon General that BO nomintated this week. It's worth the time to read. It makes the comparison between her and the big insurance companies and the ways each does business.
FOCUS | Bill Moyers and Michael Winship | Oysters for Health Care
http://www.truthout.org/071809Z?n
Bill Moyers and Michael Winship: "This is a story of health care and two Americans; a tale of two citizens, if you will. This week, Regina Benjamin was nominated by President Obama as our next surgeon general, charged with educating Americans on medical issues and overseeing the United States Public Health Service. She was the first African-American woman to head a state medical society, a member of the board of trustees of the American Medical Association and last year was named the recipient of a MacArthur Foundation 'genius award.' But more important, she's a country doctor, a family physician along the Gulf Coast of Alabama, serving the poor and uninsured - white, black and Asian."
Thanks for the info on the Surgeon General. Regina Benjamin is brilliant. Also, I am partial to the Country Doctors. I was born and raised on an Indian Reservation, quite often the Doctors went to the homes of their patients. It was wonderful not having to make a trip to their office when you were sick.
His point is "..Without liberty, no happiness can be enjoyed by society."
He summed it up himself; Look again at your quote.
The keywords look like liberty and happiness to me.
And with liberty and socialism being mutually exclusive terms, I think your attempt to use Jefferson's words to support socialized medicine is doomed to failure.
Not to even mention the total non-relationship that medicine and individual health had to governemtn back in those days.
56 signers of the Declaration of Independence, politicians, doctors, ministers, merchants, nine of them were farmers, Ben Franklin hard to define, he was a printer, renaissance man. There was a musician, there was a teacher. They ranged in their ages from their 20s to Franklin in his 80s. Thomas Jefferson, 33, was about the average age. They were the most idealistic and determined among the colonists, while the conservatives of their day said America should remain a colony of England forever. These liberal radicals believed in both individual liberty and societal obligations …
A nation must care for the lives of its own. Guaranteed liberty and ensure its citizens’ happiness – a word in the Declaration of Independence and in the Constitution – a radical concept that had never before appeared in any nation’s founding documents. The signers wrote in the Declaration, “We mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.” And it was a simple statement of fact. The day they signed that document each legally became a traitor and was sentenced to death for treason by the legal government that controlled their lands and their homes. As Ben Franklin pointed out, they stood at a point of no return, and “Indeed we must all hang together”, he said, “Otherwise, we shall most assuredly hang separately.”
Thom Hartmann author
Worse yet, those other countries live as long or longer and have similar health outcomes.
Why do they withhold information from their audience?
Did I get an education on what the geopolitical ramifications of being a "commie" was about? Somewhat.
But what I don't understand about the socialist boogeyman of late is how the population understands this to be "morally wrong". How do they know? So the words "Soviet style" pops up and other old fashion negative uses.
Why should this scare anyone? They would either not understand the concept or be too young to care.
Don't these morons understand that insurers make up your mind already?
That THEY stand between you and your doctor? ALREADY?
Bring on the Socialism! I'm ready!