Dobbs still on birther bandwagon, says "no one" knows "the reality" of Obama's birth certificate
July 21, 2009 8:38 pm ET
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Previously:
Lou Dobbs, take note: Matthews accuses birther bill co-sponsor of "appeasing the nutcases"
Days after Pilgrim answered them, Dobbs claims Obama birth certificate "questions won't go away"
CNN's Pilgrim refutes Dobbs on Dobbs over birth certificate
Dobbs repeatedly makes Obama birth certificate claims his CNN colleagues call "total bull"
Lou Dobbs is a disgrace.
Oh, sure, he can SAY it. he can even produce birth certificates and diplomas. And even so-called eyewitnesses. But hey, ANYONE can fake those.
Until Lou Dobbs produces the original, certified, raised seal, long form of his birth certificate, the question of his birth will be "out there" and "Dobbsters" like me will continue to raise the possibility that he's a Kenya--born Muslim from Indonesia.
And what was with the guy who didn't know how to pronounce live as it related to live birth.
Sheer insanity. This is Lou trying to get his pathetic numbers up at any cost.
If you can't even say it right you don't deserve to debate it!
On the other hand ... Who can produce an Original birth certificate? ... I can't produce my own Original birth certificate. There is only one original and in my case it's in the state of California. The State of CA keeps the original. They always have and they always will.
You know he's in trouble when CNN and MSNBC are covering this daily while FOX says nothing. It makes you wonder why FOX is silent.
I'll say it again -- NO proof of Obama's birth in Honolulu will EVER be accepted as legitimate by these jackasses. To them, proof is merely demonstration of a conspiracy so vast it can manufacture evidence. They're anti-Obama ideologues who will find fault with everything he says and does. They're not objective searchers for the truth who can be convinced with facts and rational arguments.
Quit acting stupid....unless it's not an act:
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When we spoke to a spokeswoman for the Hawaii Department of Health, she said too much was being made of the difference between the so-called "long" and "short" forms.
"They're just words," said spokeswoman Janice Okubo. "That (what was posted on the Internet) is considered a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii."
"There's only one form of birth certificate," she said, and it's been the same since the 1980s. Birth certificates evolve over the decades, she said, and there are no doubt differences between the way birth certificates looked when Obama was born and now.
"When you request a birth certificate, the one you get looks exactly like the one posted on his site," she said. "That's the birth certificate."
As for the theory that Obama's original birth certificate might show he was foreign-born, Okubo said the "Certification of Live Birth" would say so. Obama's does not. Again, it says he was born in Honolulu.
We have one more thing. We talked to reporter Will Hoover, who wrote a well-researched story for the Honolulu Advertiser on Nov. 9, 2008, about Obama's childhood years in the the Aloha State. It ran under the headline "Obama Slept Here."
In researching the story, he went to the microfilm archives and found the birth announcement for Obama. Actually, he found two of them, one in his Honululu Advertiser on Aug. 13 , 1961, and in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin the next day . They both said the same thing: "Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, son, Aug. 4."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/jul/01/obamas-birth-certificate-final-chapter-time-we-mea/
http://mediamatters.org/blog/200907160009
http://mediamatters.org/blog/200907140015
As has already been pointed out, the American won and the Panamanian lost.
If the ample evidence on the table isn't enough to put this to rest, clearly more documentation is not going to convince you. BTW: The Supreme Court has already ruled - Mr. Berg's case was tossed out.
As for Major Cook (or is it "Kook?) - that was, in my opinion, a pure set-up. Another poor soul went to Afghanistan on very short notice because Major Cook was trying to score political points. A great American, indeed!
You betcha!
Grow up.
As for CNN and MSNBC . . . have you seen some of those reports? They are calling people like you "crazy." Even Joe Scarborough was calling folks like you crazy this morning. Fox is silent because they KNOW you're crazy . . . you watch their entertainment programs.
First, Obama is an American. Second, you're either delusional or deliberately lying. Everything that you birthers have claimed has been so thoroughly debunked that it's clear you are not interested in fact, you only want to oppose Obama at any cost but you're too cowardly to actually do so with legitimate disagreements. You don't have to like him or agree with his policies, but at least try to have enough integrity to actually dislike him based on actual facts, don't latch onto obviously false talking points and try to claim that they are justified. Even people who say that they just don't like him because he is black are honest enough to admit that it's racial (which is still disgusting, but more honest); birthers aren't even honest enough to admit that.
Why don't you just admit that your real problem here is that
1) you lost 2) the guy you lost to is black.
You must really enjoy looking like a effen moron in front of the entire world.
I was just on Youtube just before coming back in here looking up video's using "Obama birth certificate" as search words
Holy crap... the ignorance of some people. I swear, most, if not all of the morons that have fallen for this garbage have got to be some of the dumbest bunch of twits ever.
I have said this in another thread... that if our media was our media and not the corporate owned media... the people pushing this crap would be another step closer to a white padded room!
For most believers of this stupidity, I personally believe that the vast majority of them are racists and can't stand the fact that a black man is president.
A lot of nut jobs have been trying for years to make up stories where none ever existed.
Let's just go all out... President Obama wasn't born in Hawaii, he was born in the FEMA concentration camps, near area 51, and was is it a coincidence that he was born the year before JFK said that we were going to the moon and later faked the moon landing!
These crazy folk are dogging at the GOP and I think it just desserts.
Unlike Obama's birth certificate, no one has yet to see all of herr dubyah's military records. Once again the teabagging terrorists fail at making an analogy.
I don't know if that one was ever completely verified one way or another, so it's not exactly as crazy as the Birfer conspiracies, but your comparison is valid. I'd bet that 100% of those who aren't sure if Obama is an American think that Rather was proven to have forged documents.
Actually, Lou several people do.
LIKE THESE PEOPLE.
AND THESE.
AND THESE.
OH, AND THESE, TOO.
John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone.
His friends in the Senate passed a law ruling him eligible for the Presidency.
Kinda like the US Supreme Court electing George Bush President, isn't it? Only this time we didn't need it, because "the American won." And it isn't up to the President of the United States to prove anything about his right to be President. He got the votes.
Whatever the Senate passed was not legally binding in any way. It is merely the opinion of the Senate.
Not that any of this really matters. This is all just academic. Obama does not need to provide anything more than you or I need to provide to get a passport. I provided certification of birth for my own passport - despite the fact I was actually born in Kenya...just kidding.
Before anyone says that people born on a military installation are automatically born on "U.S. soil," that's incorrect.
Sad but; so funny.
What President Obama produced was his birth certificate, there have been multiple independent sources. If you think it's easy to get why hasn't anyone presented a forged one from Hawaii to prove their point... they can't!
But, I can play the conspiracy theorist game too. I think President Obama and the DNC are doing this on purpose. This issue is splitting the GOP, a party that can't afford to be fragmened any more. The party is already decimated and inconsequential, this is just hastening its death.
What do you mean, "OR"? ;)
Anybody with common sense knows that when something has been proven, there is no need to revisit it, yet the media does just that. They should be ignored.
What the media needs to do is expose these people for what they really are, RACIST, because this is the reality of the situation. These people who do not accept the truth are guided by hate and ignorance. That is what should be reported. Anything else is an insult to humanity.
These folks really need to give it a rest, they are looking more and more foolish every day.
I only watch Fox to catch the commercials - then I write the advertisers to let them know that I won't be purchasing their products because they support the lies and racism that is Fox.