Fox News' Dr. Marc Siegel on rationing care: "[I]n a way it's a form of eugenics"

But no matter how you look at it, Fox News is nothing but lies.

Wow, how much more wrong could this guy be?

The CURRENT SYSTEM, which not only "rations care" but coverage as well, is already, absolutely a form of eugenics: only those who can afford health insurance - which means only those who work for COMPANIES that can afford health insurance, since basically no one buys their own - are worth saving. If you work for a small company, or in a low paying service job, or are otherwise underemployed, our current system says, very clearly, that YOUR LIFE is not worth saving. Saving YOU is just not cost-effective. THAT'S the system these guys defend. And that's economic eugenics, pure and simple. How, by contrats, can universal covergae and gov't mandated care, EVER be considered such? (Yes, please save me from the tyranny of guarenteed medical care!)

But there's something else going on here that bugs me...

You know how they always try to call it 'racism' (or reverse-racism) whenever we try to do something to ADDRESS actual racism? It almost seems to (cynical) me that he's calling it [reverse]eugenics because the rich-white man will no longer be able to rid the world of the poor and the minorities via health care denial, as is done now. So it's (reverse-)eugenics because the rich-white male will now be forced to share the world with the unwashed masses. It's eugenics, not by killing people, but rather by SAVING them! I might be paranoid, but I see the same (reverse-racism) logic at play here. And it's pretty scary.

Wow...this doctor writes for the New York Post! Ooooh, very impressive...har, har, har...

I somehow get the impression that this doctor's primary concern is about making a lot of money easily. Isn't that part of the problem?

Now there's a new argument against universal health care, there aren't enough doctors to treat the 47 million uninsured.

One would think the right wing crackpots would say, look how many doctor, nurses, and medical technician jobs this is going to create.

I'm sure glad this guy isn't my doctor

Well, the Troglodyte strategy is clear: Just throw as much outrageous crap at the wall as you can fabricate, and see what sticks.

After watching the "Birthers" shout down a Republican congressman at a town hall meeting, I think this strategy may be working on those who fall below a certain I.Q. level.

And just think; eight months ago, Hanniturd was wringing his hands and proclaiming that the Left's hatred of President Numbnuts Bush was "unprecedented".

Now he's participating in a hate fest that makes Bush's treatment look like a birthday party. Imagine that.

What ever happened to the magic of the free market? If there's a demand for more doctors, then doesn't the marketplace create those jobs? It's not instantaneous, of course, but that's no rationale for denying care to people forever.

I like how this clown skipped over the point about how insurance companies are making decisions. It's not about what's "extensive" or not, he was saying that the doctor and patient make decisions together. Obviously any concern about "government bureaucrats" ignores the fact that insurance company bureaucrats are already influencing the system.

Didn't they do the same thing as Hannity, by the way, where he claimed that the Mayo Clinic was criticizing Obama's plan, as opposed to the House version?

Can you imagin how much more these people would be getting away with if there were no such thing as an internet.Where things can be checked verified,and comunicated at the speed of light.The results of the 2000 election would have been different if the internet was as prevalent as today.

Siegel apparently doesn't know the definition of eugenics if he's saying that it has anything to do with whether or not the elderly receive care. Eugenics was/is about guiding reproduction. His attempt to conflate eugenics (which reached its most negative terminus during the Holocaust) to Obama's attempts at health care reform is as obvious as it is disgusting.

so it looks like this is the new tack that the right is going to take. lets scare the elderly that health reform will be bad for them and that they will die. thats because they are using the old paradigm that if they scare the edlerly that the politicians will get scared and kill insurance reform or they will lose the elderly vote. unforunatly, that may end up working because the basic nature of politicians is to keep being politicians. sure would be nice if we could elect some real leaders instead of people that are just out for themselves. but, thats why i think that obamas numbers have slipped some lately. sometimes, when you lead, people get nervous and pull away. but if he's successful then the numbers will likely go back up.

If anyone does not believe that the current system does not already promote eugenics, tell that to the young woman who was a Cigna policy owner denied a liver transplant. She died a few hours before they relented from public pressure. How many of you have not had a prescription denied because there was a generic one available (even thought your doctor wanted you to have what he prescribed)? All you have to do is look at the $ being spent by the insurance industry on a daily basis to know that they do not want their control to change.

Bill Moyers Journal had an interview with an ex Cigna exec. It should be required viewing for all of those in Congress.

I recall reading that the AMA has the power to place restrictions on how many students are admitted to medical schools, thereby restricting the supply of doctors in the market. I don't recall where I read it, and I'm prepared to be shown to be wrong. However, if correct, this means the value of medical services is kept artificially high by an association that has a vested interest in doing so.

If more students were allowed into medical schools we'd end up with more doctors and more competition for services, reducing their fees. Please note, doing so does not mean reducing the standards of quality. We could graduate more doctors who are every bit as competent as those now in practice. We'd have more doctors available to take care of our citizens' medical needs.

When the medical care profession isn't really a free market, why should capitalists get so uptight about government influence into it?

This rationing argument is ridiculous. If everyone has coverage and can't be excluded for pre-existing conditions there will be a lot less rationing than there is currently.

How many patients does this "doctor" have to postpone appointments with because he's at Faux News?