Fox & Friends advances litany of health care reform falsehoods

FOX is slipping...these guys neglected to mention that Barack Obama doesn't have a birth certificate.

I love the way Doocy calls the provision "legalese"...just allow him to explain it in paranoid, right wing nut case terms.

And how can the provision "regulate" private health care out of business. Oh, maybe by operating more economically than the profit-greedy private health care system and keeping them honest.

Section 102 deals with existing companies and their exemption from the Health Insurance Exchange. It does not say that if you don't have private insurance now, you'll never get to have it again. It doesn't say if you change jobs you can't change insurance. It also doesn't contain a valid copy of President Obama's birth certificate. Why have these tools not mentioned -that- yet? Heaven knows they've tried almost everything else.

They're just doing what they're paid to do... disseminating bullsh*t.

These idiots couldn't understand the directions on a shampoo bottle.

This is "Dark Reporting". What I mean is that is not the truth in the matter of the argument. These people used words to manipulate the goal of this Health Care Reform.
THE ARGUMENT AND THE BRUISES COMES FROM GOVERNMENT BEING A NEW COMPETITOR IN THE MARKET. how did we get off track to you will have to choose to let government provide your health care.

If that is the case: You are saying that Government has a more comprehensive and competible package that may force private businesses to lose business.

TAKE IT BACK TO THE CONVERSATION, NOT THE MANIPULATION OF THE FACTS.

1. Government is asking for an institution that has decency in cost!!!!1
2. If the private sector can not afford that, government can!!!!
3. The motion on the floor/table right now is the approval of funds to launch the government initiative!!!!!

IT IS THAT SIMPLE.
WHERE THIS SPIN CRAP AND AD LIBBING BS COMES IN I DON'T KNOW AND WHY DO BECOME SIDE TRACKED AND RUN WITH IT.

PEOPLE ARE GETTING UPSET BECAUSE OF WHAT THIS MEANS TO THEIR INVESTMENTS IN A PIT SCAM OF PRICE GORGING.

FOLLOW THE BREAD CRUMBS!!!

ASK THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE REFORM WHAT STOCKS DO THEY INVEST IN AND WHAT BUSINESS DO THEY HAVE INTEREST IN AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE YOUR ARGUMENT!!!!!!!!!!

I am getting fearful that we are approaching this problem in the wrong way. I firmly believe that we aren't going to get the health care solution correct on our first pass... it can't happen.

What we need right now is a commitment from the all parties that we are going to reform health care. The devil is in the details and passing a 1,000+ page bill is not the answer.

We as a nation must come to some common resolution on our health care needs that everyone can agree upon and work towards those requirements. Trying to pass a bill is crazy, the details are going to get picked apart, misinterpreted, and ultimately we will end up with watered down legislation that accomplishes none of the goals that we set out to accomplish.

I know it's basic and probably too simplistic, but in 1962, we went to the moon by the will of the office of the President. We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too.

JFK didn't talk about mission objectives, design specs, budget costs, detailed time lines... we had no idea how we were going to get any of this accomplished. And we did it in 7 years.

In England, the NHS started out by declaring their Core Principles and working on legislation to accomplish them. We need to do something similar.

In 1948, these were NHS Core Principles

"The NHS was born out of a long-held ideal that good healthcare should be available to all, regardless of wealth. At its launch by the then minister of health, Aneurin Bevan, on July 5 1948, it had at its heart three core principles:

* That it meet the needs of everyone
* That it be free at the point of delivery
* That it be based on clinical need, not ability to pay

These principles held true until the year 2000, after a modernization effort that took 3 years to establish. These declarations were added.

* Provide a comprehensive range of services
* Shape its services around the needs and preferences of individual patients, their families and their carers
* Respond to the different needs of different populations
* Work continuously to improve the quality of services and to minimize errors
* Support and value its staff
* Use public funds for healthcare devoted solely to NHS patients
* Work with others to ensure a seamless service for patients
* Help to keep people healthy and work to reduce health inequalities
* Respect the confidentiality of individual patients and provide open access to information about services, treatment and performance

Everything must be in support of these tenets.

We need to do this first. We must come together as a nation and agree upon what our National Health care needs to look like. Why can't President Obama and Congress create a new declaration that the entire nation supports, is that too much to ask...instead we are bickering over a 1,000+ page document that we will never get everyone to agree upon.

As a nation, we deserve better than what we are getting.

For the quarter ended June 30, UnitedHealth [based in Minnetonka, MN] said net earnings were $859 million -- a 154.9 percent increase from $337 million a year earlier, when earnings were dragged down by big lawsuit settlement costs.

Earnings per share jumped to 73 cents from 27 cents a year earlier. Analysts had forecast 70 cents. Quarterly revenue was up slightly, to $21.7 billion from $20.3 billion.

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