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Dobbs: "[L]imp-minded, lily-livered lefties ... attacking me" because "I actually had the temerity to inquire as to where the birth certificate was"

July 23, 2009 4:20 pm ET

From the July 23 broadcast of United Stations Radio Network's The Lou Dobbs Show:

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DOBBS: Listen to what he said.

OBAMA [audio clip]: Right now, doctors a lot of times are forced to make decisions based on the fee payment schedule that's out there. So if they're looking and you come in and you've got a bad sore throat or your child has a bad sore throat or has repeated sore throats, the doctor may look at the reimbursement system and say to himself, "You know what? I make a lot more money if I take this kid's tonsils out."

DOBBS: Where's the American Medical Association? Why isn't every doctor in this country outraged at such a statement by the president of the United States? You know, I just can't figure out what's going on.

You know, these -- he's speaking to an audience that -- the only part of which that would respond to that kind of nonsense is the limp-minded, lily-livered lefties -- who, by the way, are also attacking me in a concerted form, as I actually raise a question of this great president.

I mean, think of this. I actually had the temerity to inquire as to where the birth certificate was and why the president of the United States would not turn over that birth certificate to the national media and end the noise. And I also said four times in one show, "I believe the president is a citizen of the United States." I don't buy into the Kenyan secret agent stuff, as Jim Geraghty of National Review put it. I mean, I don't buy into that.

But, I mean, the nat-- the left wing comes after me like I had said -- as I said earlier -- like I had said we should surrender to the communist Chinese, put up a white flag. And then I thought, "No, they probably would have less trouble surrendering to the Chinese than they do with me suggesting that the Great One might turn over a copy of his birth certificate so that the American people could move on past this nonsense."

My gosh.

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    • Author by DAWUSS (July 23, 2009 4:23 pm ET)
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      Thanks for the clarification, Mr. Dobbs.
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    • Author by harley (July 23, 2009 4:24 pm ET)
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      Dobbs, you whining pile of filth, Obama has produced a copy of his birth certificate. You just happen to refuse this reality.
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      • Author by donnacheer11 (July 23, 2009 8:43 pm ET)
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        No he has not, Obama has only produced a Certificate of Live Birth which is NOT the same as a Birth Certificate. To end the debate all he has to do is show it.
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        • Author by solon (July 23, 2009 10:45 pm ET)
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          It is an offical document. IT has already ended the debate. Your delusional fantasies notwithstanding. You guys are flat out pathetic. Obama was born in Hawaii get over it.
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        • Author by Texas Aggie (July 23, 2009 10:57 pm ET)
             
          And what exactly is the difference? I hear the rat wing pushing this, but I never hear them actually defining the difference. Either it is a statement, such as donnacheer's, or it is a wimp out like, "I'll let you figure out the difference."

          As for Dobb's harangue, the research done on the reasons for the massive cost differential between McAllen and El Paso, TX, shows that indeed, what Obama said is spot on. Doctors do in fact recommend tests and treatments based on what they will make out of it.

          And the fact that Obama already has turned over a copy (which is all anyone can get, even Dobbs) of his birth certificate as was announced on his show three days earlier by Ms. Pilgrim doesn't seem to matter to this space cadet.
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        • Author by Equal Opportunity Cynic (July 24, 2009 12:44 am ET)
             
          This post actually made me curious as to what on earth the birthers think is the difference between a "Certificate of Live Birth" and a birth certificate. (My own birth certificate, issued in Alabama in the early 1970s, bears the header "CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH". I was very worried that this detail, indicating that in fact I am plainly a Kenyan citizen, might come out if I ever should run for President.)

          I hate to legitimize this nonsense with a response, but a very quick Google search clarifies what's going on here, at least for all us reasonable people. This Kos diary explains it pretty thoroughly. "Certification of Live Birth" is just what Hawaii has always called their birth certificates.

          I wasted 30 seconds of my life finding that so you won't have to.
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        • Author by kathleen.mckinley7760 (July 24, 2009 1:58 am ET)
             
          What do you mean it's not the same? Do you SERIOUSLY think that because a document is headed by the words "Certificate of Live Birth" rather than the words "Birth Certificate" that it is NOT a birth certificate???? Please. Don't try to make "legal" arguments when you are completely ill-informed, ignorant, and unqualified to do so.
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        • Author by MiddleLeft (July 24, 2009 3:31 pm ET)
             
          No he has not, Obama has only produced a Certificate of Live Birth which is NOT the same as a Birth Certificate. To end the debate all he has to do is show it.

          He can't show it because doesn't have it (silly person). The state of Hawaii doesn't release the original birth certificate. Instead they issue the Certificate of live birth.... OR.... you can go to the state office and inspect the original as was done by CNN.. you twits.
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          • Author by MiddleLeft (July 24, 2009 6:42 pm ET)
               
            I stand corrected. The story is so out-there I haven't followed all the details. The original paper document was lost or destroyed after the state went to electronic records. No other document or proof is acceptable to these nuts. The president must provide the original (which can't be done) or the story lives on. Lord help our society if there is ever any fire or flooding in a library or office Thankfully we are moving away from such reliance to electronic systems that can be backed up.
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    • Author by RABBITLUVR (July 23, 2009 4:24 pm ET)
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      Keep going, Louser. Go ahead, continue to destroy your career. This is DEElicious.
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    • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (July 23, 2009 4:25 pm ET)
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      Lou,

      Please stop. I love your show. Pull hard and see if you can dislodge your head from...well, you know where.
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (July 23, 2009 5:10 pm ET)
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        Pull hard
        I was waiting to get to the end of your post to see if you had your finger out...
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    • Author by historygeek001 (July 23, 2009 4:29 pm ET)
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      You're lying again, Lou. The entire birther "controversy" is about lies; they have been so thoroughly debunked that granting them anything even close to legitimacy is beyond absurd, it's openly lying. You know the truth and you're deliberately promulgating a lie because you want to smear Obama. You can't smear him on the issues so you smear him with lies. You, and anybody else who pretends that the birthers are even slightly rational, deserve only contempt.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (July 23, 2009 4:30 pm ET)
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      Lou, you belong with the birthers...they're your kind of people. Don't stop, Lou...don't change a thing. Just keep talking...please.
      Oh...and don't forget to drop us a line now and then from your retirement home. Thanks...
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    • Author by Max Credits (July 23, 2009 4:31 pm ET)
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      Hilarious. Righties, lefties, and co-workers all think he's a fruitloop so he tries to play the victim.
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      • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (July 23, 2009 4:38 pm ET)
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        Not that Lou has that many viewers in the first place, but, really...
        Who on earth would listen to this nutcase for any kind of "news"?
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    • Author by snoopy (July 23, 2009 4:35 pm ET)
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      Wow, so now he's reduced himself to name calling. He's sounding rather livid now. Good, the racist got exposed.
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    • Author by WhatImlost (July 23, 2009 4:40 pm ET)
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      Your not being attacked for wanting Obama to release his birth certificate.
      Your being attacked for being too stupid to watch your own SHOW, where your guest host told you how to find his birth certificate.
      And your being attacked for being too stupid to watch your own network, where they have made a habit of showing a paper copy of Obama's birth certificate on the air.

      In short your being attacked for being too stupid/blind to see the very evidence you ask for being held up 6 or 7 inches away from your face
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    • Author by seeryer (July 23, 2009 4:41 pm ET)
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      I would kick the shart out of Dobbs in any back alley in DC, NY or ATL. Then I would stuff a carton of cigarettes up his large arse.
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    • Author by shaggles (July 23, 2009 4:44 pm ET)
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      What does 'limp-minded' mean?
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      • Author by lookoutoftheyard2251 (July 23, 2009 4:52 pm ET)
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        I'll be he wimped out of saying "limp-wristed" at the last second.
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        • Author by shaggles (July 23, 2009 6:48 pm ET)
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          That would make sense I guess. When you got nothing else, resort to school yard taunts.
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          • Author by John Paradox (July 23, 2009 6:59 pm ET)
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            The whole phrase: [L]imp-minded, lily-livered lefties is Dobbs 'channelling' Spiro T.Agnew: nattering nabobs of negativism
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (July 23, 2009 5:12 pm ET)
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        What does 'limp-minded' mean?
        One who thinks like Limp-baugh.
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    • Author by captfoster2 (July 23, 2009 4:46 pm ET)
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      Does this means Lou Dobbs or one of his pathetic producers trolls around sites like ours??

      Really? How sweet...

      Please relay this message to Lou,

      Only racists believe in this childish non-conspiracy! Are you a racist Lou or are you better than that?

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    • Author by neon desert (July 23, 2009 4:49 pm ET)
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      I wouldn't have used the word "temerity" to describe the characteristic that it takes to be questioning Obama's birth certificate at this point in time, Lous. And "lilly-livered"?

      Oh Lou... You make me sad.

      I mean, think of this. I actually had the temerity to inquire as to where Lou's self-respect was and why the host of the Lou Dobbs show would not ignore the birthers and end the noise. And I also said at least once in one comment, "I don't believe the Dobbs is that stoopid." I - like you, Lou - don't buy into the Kenyan secret agent stuff, as Jim Geraghty of National Review put it. I mean, I don't buy into that either.

      But, I mean, the Lou-- Lou Dobbs comes after us like we were idiots -- as I said earlier -- like we had said he should surrender ALL of views to the lefties, put up a white flag. And then I thought, "No, he probably would have less trouble surrendering to the birthers than with me suggesting that the Great Lou might give up a couple hundred viewers so that the American people could move on past this nonsense."
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    • Author by National_Insecurity (July 23, 2009 4:53 pm ET)
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      Nor does Dobbs know that
      - few doctors belong to AMA
      - reimbursement codes are such that fee-for-service generates more money for taking out tonsils
      - and yes, some doctors, tired of dealing with complaining moms and an obnoxious kid with recurring problems and that rare but generous healthcare plan, will take out the kid's tonsils. Some big companies have such plans, ask your doctor.
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    • Author by blueline99 (July 23, 2009 4:56 pm ET)
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      Thank you Lou for declaring your allegiance to the "birthers"

      For you to make that comment off topic, makes me no longer wonder if you're just straddling the line... you are one of them... maybe even their leader.

      From now on, crazy conspiracy theory guy will no longer be known as Oliver Stone... it'll be Lou Dobbs.

      "I think the moon landing is a fake"
      "Are you going all 'Lou Dobbs' on me now?"


      I hope you get fired from CNN soon, which I think has got to happen. You're not a journalist by any stretch of the imagination... my only sadness with your firing would be that there's a seat waiting for you at Fox.

      But I love you being mocked by Jon Stewart.

      http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-july-22-2009/the-born-identity


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    • Author by lookoutoftheyard2251 (July 23, 2009 4:59 pm ET)
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      ... I mean, think of this. I actually had the temerity to inquire as to whether or not he waterboards his interns in his basement and why the host of a news show on the channel that calls itself the "most trusted name in news" would not turn over photographs of his basement and end the noise. And I also said four times in one reply, "I believe Lou Dobbs does not waterboard interns in his basement." I don't buy into the rogue interrogator thing, as some random poster at Daily Kos put it. I mean, I don't buy into that.

      But, I mean, CN-- the right wing comes after me like I had said -- as I said earlier -- like I had said we should just watch Fox News, put up a white flag. And then I thought, "No, they probably would have less trouble watching Fox News than they do with me suggesting that the Great One might turn over photographs of his basement so that the American people could move on past this nonsense."

      My gosh.


      tl;dr: Lou Dobbs' attempts to explain away why it's totally okay to imply that the President isn't a US citizen amuse me.
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    • Author by fantagor (July 23, 2009 5:02 pm ET)
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      Limp? I think Lou is projecting again.

      SOT
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    • Author by bintx (July 23, 2009 5:05 pm ET)
         
      "The Great One"???????

      Mr. Dobbs, Mr. Obama has already turned over a copy of his birth certificate. Guess you missed it.
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    • Author by royman1 (July 23, 2009 5:15 pm ET)
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      Geez Lou! Have you been raiding Rush's medicine cabinet again?
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (July 23, 2009 5:37 pm ET)
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        Wingnuts sure do make an easy connection between stoopidity and manliness. How is supporting a ridiculous, de-bunked myth showing temerity? How are the people laughing at you limp-minded and lily-livered?

        Strength through Stupid !
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        • Author by neon desert (July 23, 2009 6:49 pm ET)
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          I sure wish they'd just turn over the alien autopsies so that we could just get past this nonsense...
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          • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (July 23, 2009 7:46 pm ET)
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            I'm watching G. Gordon Liddy at this moment. He looks very drowsy, and keeps mumbling something about a signed deposition from the step-grandmother in Kenya who swore she saw Obama born in Kenya.

            He's explained the Hawaii birth announcements away by saying any parent would want their child to appear to have been born in the U.S., to enjoy all of the benefits.

            He can't seem to make the jump that a grandmother would like to brag about seeing her grandchild born, which would discount that deposition by his logic.

            Of course, I haven't seen the long form of this deposition, and until Liddy delivers it to me, I will assume he is a gentle visitor from Planet Wingnut.

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            • Author by open_mind (July 23, 2009 7:57 pm ET)
                 
              I love the way they explain away the birth announcements. Like Obama's Mom would think to put in a birth announcement to perpetrate an elaborate fraud rather than just being in the freaking country at the time she gave birth. What do the birthers think was so dang important back in Kenya that Ann couldn't get back in time to give birth in the greatest country on Earth? It makes less than zero sense.
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    • Author by snoopy (July 23, 2009 5:32 pm ET)
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      Let's have a little Madonna to spice up the day, shall we?

      I made it through the wilderness
      Somehow I though it was through
      Didnt know how bad it was
      Until I heard you

      You would bleat, ill repeat,
      Never enough, you're a has been too
      But you showed to us
      Yeah, you showed to us
      How you really feel

      Chorus:

      Like a racist
      Busted for the very first time
      Like a racist
      When you get caught (after first time, with your own words)
      All you do is whine!

      Gonna expose your rantings, boy
      Your career is fading fast
      Been lying but we caught you
      cause only truth can last

      You're a swine and you whine
      You are wrong, yeah you're really blind
      Oh your welcome's worn out
      Yeah, your welcome's worn out
      By that bitter racist inside!

      (chorus)

      Oooh, oooh, oooh

      You're a swine and you whine
      You'll be known till the end of time
      as a racist heel
      Yeah, a racist heel
      There's no place you can hide

      (chorus)

      Like a racist, ooh, ooh
      Like a racist
      Burns down deep inside
      When you're busted, and your exposed, and you can't hide

      Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
      Ooh, baby
      Can't you take the heat
      For the very first time?
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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (July 23, 2009 5:39 pm ET)
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      Lou, I think you meant to say, "I actually had the "Stupidity" to inquire as to where the birth certificate was"

      As to the doctors doing the more expensive things, how do you account for the dramatic rise in cesarean births?

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      • Author by marco21 (July 23, 2009 7:34 pm ET)
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        Lou, invite this lily-livered leftist on your show or come to Chicago and we'll have a beer. It'll be fun tearing you a new a-hole with facts you can't seem to understand.

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    • Author by arrgh.paine (July 23, 2009 6:19 pm ET)
         
      Mr. Dobbs, I think the point is that with your position within the journalistic profession is it not reasonable for your viewers to expect that you would perform even the most cursory research into your subject matter and inform the public as to your findings instead of bloviating about how many questions remain unanswered. Please don't refer to those who are rightly distressed at your complete lack of journalistic integrity as "limp minded" when you are apparently to lazy to perform the primary function for which we assume you are employed.
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    • Author by mjh (July 23, 2009 9:34 pm ET)
         
      Dobbs: "[L]imp-minded, lily-livered lefties ... attacking me" because "I actually had the STUPIDITY to inquire as to where the birth certificate was"


      FIXED
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    • Author by jbraskin4786 (July 23, 2009 10:53 pm ET)
         
      All of the time that Dobbs and the other wingnuts waste on crap like this makes it very obvious that they have nothing else to work with.

      Their panic and their bitterness is obvious.
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