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Limbaugh: "Here you have a black president trying to destroy a white policeman"

July 24, 2009 1:12 pm ET

From the July 24 edition of Premiere Radio Network's The Rush Limbaugh Show:

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Previously:

Limbaugh: Obama "not a force for positive race relations" due to "militant black reaction" to Gates' arrest

Limbaugh finishes "gingerly dancing around the Gates business": "I think Skip Gates wanted to be arrested"

Limbaugh: "[W]e saw white firefighters under assault by agents of Barack Obama"; "Now white policemen are under assault"

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    • Author by Prospect (July 24, 2009 1:18 pm ET)
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      I don't think Rush realizes the hypocracy that he's displaying. Sure, maybe President Obama (why is it so hard for him to say that phrase?) may have over-stepped the line by saying the police ACTED stupidly (didn't call them stupid), but I doubt if the races were reversed in all aspects of this that Rush would say these type of things he's saying.

      Then to insult President Obama, with the fact that people were guilty and they voted for him solely based upon their own guilt about racism and slavery in this country.. I swear sometimes I just don't see how he sleeps at night..
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      • Author by pointofview (July 24, 2009 4:15 pm ET)
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        Obama called the officer today, and called him am outstanding officer. At least now there are some attempts to give this cop his well earned reputation back!!
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        • Author by snoopy (July 24, 2009 4:36 pm ET)
             
          He wouldn't have lost it in the first place if the right didn't try to use him to gin up a phony controversy.
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          • Author by pointofview (July 24, 2009 4:40 pm ET)
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            He would not have lost it had Gates cooperated, and had the left not been so bent on making this a racial issue when it was simply an officer doing his job.
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            • Author by Brabantio (July 24, 2009 5:06 pm ET)
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              That's nonsense. Crowley could have easily just left, regardless of Gates' behavior. Tell me why not.
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              • Author by pointofview (July 24, 2009 6:06 pm ET)
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                Officers are paid to protect and serve. They are NOT paid to take unnecessary abuse for doing their jobs. Gates was disorderly, and an arrest was proper.
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                • Author by Brabantio (July 24, 2009 6:11 pm ET)
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                  I'll ask you yet again:since Crowley himself admitted that he was led to believe that Gates was in his own home (before identification was even requested), what possible justification is there for him to stay on the premises? Nobody will answer this. And why did he call in more cops? I have yet to hear any explanation for that as well.

                  What a ridiculous dodge. He could have left. You can't explain why he couldn't, or why he shouldn't.
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                  • Author by pointofview (July 24, 2009 6:47 pm ET)
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                    His own words said he "thought" Gates was the owner. hat clearly implies it was not firmly established. Gates was not letting him do his job. It is really that simple.


                    What if there was a burglar there? The initial call said two people were breaking in? What if Gates was being held hostage? All of these are possibilities the officer has to think about.
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                    • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (July 24, 2009 7:56 pm ET)
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                      What if there was a burglar there? The initial call said two people were breaking in? What if Gates was being held hostage? All of these are possibilities the officer has to think about.


                      If Professor Gates had been White.

                      Officer Crowley: Good evening sir, I'm officer Crowley with the Cambridge police department. We received a call from your neighbor of a possible burglary. Is everything alright?

                      Instead, Officer Crowley took one look at Black Professor Gates, who is 5'7", 150 pounds and uses a cane due to hip replacement surgery and ASSumed that Professor Gates might be a suspect.

                      Because Crowley ASSumed, his first words to Professor Gates was to ask him to step out of HIS OWN home.

                      Now Professor Gates had been in his home long enough to call Harvard Real Estate, to request maintenance work on his door. He was totally and completely unaware that the police were called.

                      Imagine his surprise when he opens the door and instead of: "Good evening sir, I'm officer Crowley with the Cambridge police department. We received a call from your neighbor of a possible burglary. Is everything alright?", he got, "Can you please step out of the house."

                      Sgt. Dennis O'Connor, president of the Cambridge Police Superior Officers Association personal license plate: WHY-TEE must be just a nickname.

                      Cambridge Cop's Unfortunate Vanity Plate: WHY-TEEhere...

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                    • Author by Brabantio (July 25, 2009 3:08 am ET)
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                      Are you seriously trying to parse some difference between "led to believe" and "thought"? Whether it was known as fact or not, it was damn obvious.

                      Why do people keep pointing out that the call was about two people breaking in? As if he's supposed to be considered a potential criminal suspect, and there's some other 60-year old burglar ransacking the upstairs or something. Are we supposed to believe that he never explained that he and his driver were the ones who broke in the door? And what indications are there that there was a hostage situation? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the police report said that Crowley saw Gates in the house before he even went up to the door. Is the theory here that Gates was wandering around while his captors were taking a nap or something? Is this bizarre explanation supposed to cover the calling of more cops, by the way?
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                    • Author by Brabantio (July 25, 2009 3:17 am ET)
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                      Oh, and what does it say about any of these possibilities in the police report? Surely Crowley would cite such concerns and explain his rationale for them in his report, right?
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            • Author by wookie (July 24, 2009 5:10 pm ET)
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              >>had the left not been so bent on making this a racial issue

              Apparently you didn't see the title of this article.
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            • Author by snoopy (July 24, 2009 5:40 pm ET)
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              If the officer was smart enough to remember how to use the diversity training that he teaches other officers he wouldn't have been in this mess to begin with. And it wasn't the left making it a racial issue, it was once again the right. I've yet to see a racist the right couldn't make into a victim...
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      • Author by wookie (July 24, 2009 4:36 pm ET)
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        Rush strings together a whole list of unrelated bogus ideas. Obama is right, The case was quickly dropped because the cop had no basis to be there. When Gates showed his ID he should have left right away. The right would be all out against the cop if Gates was white. We would be hearing all about the castle law. Anyway Obama's legal view of the case has nothing to do with "white guilt" or "hating America" or whatever other silliness Limbaugh throws in.
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    • Author by nerzog (July 24, 2009 1:23 pm ET)
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      On a mattress of money.
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    • Author by seeryer (July 24, 2009 1:28 pm ET)
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      Obama is not trying to destroy anyone. That is what Rush does daily. The bottom line is the POTUS can't use that type of language, "stupidly", in describing anything other than his own actions or those of his adminstration. It was a poor choice of words but that is all. However, when you are a black president commenting on a race issue you have to realize that your opponents will distort everything you say. If he would have used the word "inappropriately" then qualified it with "like I said, I don't have all the facts, I am going on just snippets I have heard about the situation." In my opinion it most likely would not have garnered the attention it has. One word has created a monster distraction from vital issues the President is trying to address.
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      • Author by nerzog (July 24, 2009 1:31 pm ET)
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        I agree; Obama slipped up. He needs to learn a little more "Washingtonese", in which he answers a question without answering it.

        On the other hand, he was right. Unless Gates assaulted the Policeman with his cane, handcuffing him was unjustified, and, by some standards, STUPID.
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        • Author by seeryer (July 24, 2009 1:53 pm ET)
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          Unjustified would have been the perfect word considering the charges were dropped.
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (July 24, 2009 1:29 pm ET)
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      And here you have a fat guy from Florida trying to destroy the american presidency.
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    • Author by Brabantio (July 24, 2009 1:33 pm ET)
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      I have exactly zero sympathy for Crowley. The man as much as admitted that he had no cause to stay in Gates' house any longer.

      Even if Gates flew off the handle for no good reason, it should have been dealt with differently. Crowley had all the information he needed, and could have just left. If that was the case, and Gates wanted to make a federal case out of it, then he would have only made himself look like an ass. But by staying around unnecessarily, what Crowley has done is to make Gates' version of the story all the more credible. It's much easier to believe that Crowley was acting inappropriately from the start since Crowley clearly acted inappropriately later on.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (July 24, 2009 1:38 pm ET)
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        The instant the officer realized that the whole thing was a misunderstanding, he should have apolgized for the misunderstanding, said he understood Prof. Gates' frustration and WALKED. AWAY.

        There was no crime here. There's no law against being grouchy, in the middle of the night, after getting off a plane, finding yourself locked out, and having your neighbors call the cops on you. MOST cops should realize (once the facts are established) that this is going to be a tense situation, even before you bring race into it. With the race angle, they should have tread more likely - and used some discretion, especially once they found out the whole thing was bogus.

        IMHO, he was looking for a reason to arrest Gates and jsutify his trip out there. He MAY have done that to a white guy as well, IDK, but it's "STUPID" none the less.
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        • Author by Brabantio (July 24, 2009 1:52 pm ET)
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          It may have just been because his ego wouldn't permit him to take backtalk from anyone. Maybe it wasn't racist, but at the same time it's hard to believe that an experienced officer wouldn't be able to handle that aspect of the job by that point. It's possible it was just a bad day for him or something, but it just seems strange.

          I would have to imagine that in this particular area, being a professor is sort of a big deal. There's some prestige there, surely. It strikes me as odd that this information didn't make Crowley take a step back and re-think the situation. If it was some old white priest, would the reaction be "sorry for any inconvenience" or would it be "let's see some I.D"? Certain jobs do carry more respect along with them, and should make an officer grant more benefit of the doubt and more deference. That's what really strikes me as strange, and suggests to me that there's some other factor that inspired Crowley to ignore the proper course of action.
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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (July 24, 2009 1:58 pm ET)
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            I agree. I don't think you even need to bring race into it to criticise Crowley's actions. (And it's obviously, inherently racist to bring it in to try and JUSTIFY them!) Just an arrogant cop, who figured he wasn't going to waste a trip out there without something to show for it.

            One does have to wonder if he would have shown more discretion to a white guy. (And maybe not, but his actions were still over the top.)

            Also, one might argue that a white guy might not have gotten as argumentative as Gates. But there's a REASON for that, and that's why Gates may have overreacted! So race still plays a role, even if the officer himself is not racist.

            But yeah, I agree. Just a poorly handled situation all around by Crowley. So unecessary.
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            • Author by pointofview (July 24, 2009 4:15 pm ET)
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              Obama called the officer today, and called him am outstanding officer. At least now there are some attempts to give this cop his well earned reputation back!!
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              • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (July 24, 2009 5:38 pm ET)
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                Obama called the officer today, and called him am outstanding officer. At least now there are some attempts to give this cop his well earned reputation back!!


                Good grief!!! YOU posted this crap TWICE!!!!

                The officers tarnished his OWN reputation.

                He knew early on that Professor Gates was the owner of the home. Once he knew that, he should have given his name and badge number, as required by law, and left.

                He arrested Professor Gates because he could. He wanted to show Professor Gates that HE was the man with the power.

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      • Author by nerzog (July 24, 2009 1:42 pm ET)
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        Exactly. There is something in criminal justice known as "discretion". Police have a certain latitude within which to operate. That's why they sometimes let a speeder go with a warning.

        This guy probably arrested Gates because Gates pi$$ed him off. Police officers, like everyone else, have pride, and don't like to have their authority questioned. Gates was probably giving the officer a good tongue lashing, and maybe he decided he didn't have to take it.

        Maybe there was a racial component, maybe not. The Cop should have just walked away.
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        • Author by bintx (July 24, 2009 2:01 pm ET)
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          Exactly. The cop handled the situation badly. He should have apologized for the mistake and walked out the door. He was the source of the gentleman's agitation. Remove the agitation and the situation is calmed.
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      • Author by Conservative Dem (July 24, 2009 1:43 pm ET)
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        By all accounts Crowley is a good and decent cop. It sounds like it could have and should have been handled better by Crowley and Gates. That being said, the question to Obama was a pitch in the dirt that he swung at. He should have simply said Gates was a friend of his, but it would be inappropriate to comment further until he had heard all of the facts.
        However, is there a bigger racist pig than Rush Limbaugh? The guy is simply disgusting. I consider myself a moderate, proudly voted for Obama and it had nothing to do with guilt. He was the better choice of the candidates. To me, Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck are the face of the Republican party and until the Republican party widely denounces them and their tactics, I will be a proud Democrat.
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    • Author by scubcap647 (July 24, 2009 1:40 pm ET)
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      How much do you want to bet this officer shows up on Fox and is passed around as the new "conservative hero"?
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      • Author by Conservative Dem (July 24, 2009 3:06 pm ET)
           
        The officer has said he is 110% behind Obama. He said he also understands that friend would take his side of an account like Obama did with Gates. As I said before, it sounds like this guy is a good cop and a good person -- this was an unfortunate incident.
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      • Author by smarshall1432997 (July 24, 2009 4:23 pm ET)
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        There is video already showing this Sgt. Crowley saying how he did "NOT" vote for President Obama. It seemed like someone told him later to make sure he express how supportive he is of President Obama, and likes him as his President. Wonder why Sgt. Crowley must say this when he voted differently?

        Btw, never mind how Sgt. Crowley should have left Mr. Gates home once the information was provided Americans should realize too that Policemen can "arrest" people at their home if they (Policeman) feel the Homeowners "disrespected" them (Policemen) in any way. But, hey let's "ALL" debate if this is a race thing going on like good ole' Rush had yelled about. LOL
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    • Author by friedbergboy1422 (July 24, 2009 1:46 pm ET)
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      I suppose if a friend of Rush's was arrested in his own home and the charges were dropped the next day, Rush would be perfectly ok with the whole situation, right?
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    • Author by bintx (July 24, 2009 2:00 pm ET)
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      I work with cops and can tell you that cops are not saints. If a cop gets in a bind, he will do what it takes to cover his backside. A mistake was made and the cop handled it badly.
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    • Author by DixieRose (July 24, 2009 2:55 pm ET)
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      Sgt. Crowley responded to a possible B&E in progress. When finding the door open & a person inside matching the description given by the caller, the officer began to question the man & take control of the situation. The officer was doing his duty. The guilty party was Gates, who was disorderly from the start (homeowner or not). Plenty of homeowners are disorderly when confronted by law enforcement & the parties are subsequently arrested (rightfully so)!

      I read the arrest report; from the minute officers arrived, Gates was confrontational (not a smart thing to do when being questioned by an officer of the law). And not only was Gates confrontational, he also began engaging in angry, racist hate speech. As a white woman, God forbid if a black officer shows up at my house & I confront him with anger & race speech. I'd be in handcuffs in no time - charged not only with disorderly conduct, but also a hate crime!

      Obama was wrong to get involved & even more wrong to use the word "stupid" in describing the actions by Cambridge Police Department. The only mistake I see by the Department is dropping the charges. Was the man disorderly (the crime he was arrested for)? Yes! So why drop the charges?

      Shame on Professor Gates & shame on the President.

      BTW, Sgt. James Crowley, the arresting officer in the Gates case, has taught a class about racial profiling for five years at the Lowell Police Academy after being hand-picked for the job by former police Commissioner Ronny Watson, who is black, said Academy Director Thomas Fleming. The course, called "Racial Profiling," teaches about different cultures & how you don't want to single people out because of their ethnic background or the culture they come from," Fleming said.
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      • Author by Brabantio (July 24, 2009 3:12 pm ET)
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        When finding the door open & a person inside matching the description given by the caller, the officer began to question the man & take control of the situation.

        Nobody has claimed that Crowley shouldn't have been there. But, going into the house and seeing Gates should have been an instant signal that there was no "situation" to take control over. He had no cause by which to follow Gates inside.
        Plenty of homeowners are disorderly when confronted by law enforcement & the parties are subsequently arrested (rightfully so)!

        When turning violent, right. Or, if Gates had no reason to follow Crowley outside, there would be a case there. The fact is that Crowley not only asked him to do so, but Gates did not have Crowley's badge number, as he had lawfully requested. I think Gates probably also wanted to know what the hell the purpose was in calling in other officers, which is understandable as a cause for agitation.
        As a white woman, God forbid if a black officer shows up at my house & I confront him with anger & race speech. I'd be in handcuffs in no time - charged not only with disorderly conduct, but also a hate crime!

        I'm not sure what the "hate crime" charge would be. I don't see where any racial slurs were fired off here, anyway. It's not illegal to yell at a cop in your own house, so that doesn't validate further presence by the officer.
        Obama was wrong to get involved & even more wrong to use the word "stupid" in describing the actions by Cambridge Police Department.

        Obama was asked about it. He probably should have used different language, but since nobody can honestly explain what justification the officer had for remaining on the premises, it would objectively seem a bit stupid.
        The course, called "Racial Profiling," teaches about different cultures & how you don't want to single people out because of their ethnic background or the culture they come from," Fleming said.

        Then Crowley should be quite able to handle being confronted in a professional manner instead of making an unnecessary arrest.
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        • Author by Conservative Dem (July 24, 2009 3:21 pm ET)
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          Crowley explained why he asked Gates to go outside and it's very plausible. As he said, when he entered and found Gates, he did not know if there was a perp in the house besides Gates. Remember, there was a report of two men breaking into the house. It was reasonable for Crowley to ask Gates to step outside so they could check the residence for Gates' safety.
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          • Author by Brabantio (July 24, 2009 5:04 pm ET)
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            Gates was obviously one of the people who was breaking in. Did he look like a "perp" at all? If not, then the other person doesn't much matter, unless he was helping a burglar break into his own house.

            Help me out, because the logic is not quite clear.
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      • Author by snoopy (July 24, 2009 3:22 pm ET)
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        Only a fool would think police are never in the wrong. They make mistakes too. If they've been trained, they knew better and should be punished accordingly.

        Grand Prairie officers on leave after racist Obama e-mail circulated
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      • Author by tman418 (July 24, 2009 3:50 pm ET)
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        Maybe the charges were dropped because it was bogus to do such a thing?

        I seriously don't think it would look good, in the media, for a black police officer (especially if it's a male to arrest an old white woman in her own home). In fact, I don't think Rush Limbaugh would like that at all. By the way, I'm not saying you're old. I don't know your age, I just wanted to make parallels.

        A hate crime? There would be no hate crime for simply yelling at an officer of a different race (who is arresting you in your own home after you just had a long flight). By the way, hate crimes are two-way streets as well. Just wanted to make sure you knew.
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      • Author by solon (July 24, 2009 4:00 pm ET)
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        NO shame on Crowley very soon it was evident that there had been no breakin and Gates was in his onw home. You have every right to be grouchy and even ill tempered when challenged in your own home. Gates should have left as soon as he saw there was no crime involved. In fact he just had no right to be in the mans house anymore once that was established. Crowley was the inteloper in another mans home. HE had the obligation to leave and take any rudeness offered him IN THE MANS HOME. How would CROWLEY act if challenged in HIS home? Crowley was in the wrong from the moment he didnt leave after finding there was no crime
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    • Author by Theresa of Cincinnati (July 24, 2009 4:15 pm ET)
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      Hello, hello.... is anyone listening? Why would the president be involved in such? Doesn't he have more important matters to attend to? Or is it all redistributed elsewhere?
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    • Author by puttforever4682 (July 24, 2009 4:25 pm ET)
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      I for one think race was a minor factor for Crowley. The police I have come across simply do not accept a challenge of their authority no matter what. I believe similar behavior in Caucasian or other people of different backgrounds would have largely been treated the same. Even gender probably would not have mattered. The police will not accept anything less than groveling.

      What I find curious about the story is that the officer said he was surprised at a homeowner being upset and acting out. That is an impossible statement for me to accept. Also, Professor Gates seemed to never even imagined that a policeman would act as he did. I could believe that from a kid, but not an adult of 58. Maybe the concept of shelter in Ivory towers has some reasonance after all.
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    • Author by galahad (July 24, 2009 5:03 pm ET)
         
      Point of law...the SCOTUS says that when LEOs have suspicion of a crime and that their fears have been alayed through investigation, i.e. proof of residency, their business is DONE! It was unlawful arrest. How can someone be "disorderly" in their own home? The only reason he was arrested was that the cop's "authority" was being undermined. What people don't realize, the cop had NO authority at the time of Gate's arrest. That's why the DA is running from the charges and the city leaders are calling it "regrettable". The cop is either poorly trained, or lacking sound judgment. Either way, a dangerous man carrying a gun. I smell a winning lawsuit.
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    • Author by dwieboldt@gmail.com (July 24, 2009 6:17 pm ET)
         
      Rush is an overlarge piece of excrement the seems to endlessly circle around the FOX John. Somehow, it never seems to be cleared. Rush is not one for facts, in fact he loves to make them up in support of his tired old diatribes.

      FOX needs some new bad blood. The current stuff is pretty tiresome.
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