Fox News' Johnson claims health care reform "a subtle form of euthanasia"

That is what insurance companies do today.

This whole discussion is fear mongering at its lowest. Here is a simple but ugly fact, we can't afford to spend "whatever it takes" to make every patient healthy. Those of us with insurance are supposed to pay close to $1000 extra covering the medical bills of the uninsured. Sometimes, decisions have to be made! They are made already under managed care insurance programs. Some people don't get tests or treatments that are deemed experimental or too expensive. The super wealthy, who can afford to pay millions for medical procedures will get them, regardless or the costs or health programs, but the rest of us will have to take our chances. It may not be fair, and it certainly isn't nice, but people die, it is an outcome of being born. If everyone got the most expensive tests and the most extensive care, then pretty soon, no one would be covered by insurance and then we would all be in the position of those not covered at all-looking for ways to be treated for curable, manageble conditions and not receiving it; or spending huge sums on emergency care when the condition becomes serious due to lack of treatment. I would rather see everyone have some coverage than see 20% of the population with no coverage at all and therefore at the mercy of the kindness of strangers.

What are they saying here, that elderly people should be given unlimited resources to have whatever surgeries they need? Let's imagine they are not talking about millionaires here (who would be removed from this discussion anyway since they can afford health care without insurance). Who are they talking about? What 70+ yr old person has health insurance? Union retirees that have pensions. Otherwise they have medicare. So Fox news is sticking up for retired union workers or people already benefiting from a public plan. Unless they are trying to defend some population of the elderly that is not mega rich, does not have a pension and chooses to pay his or her own health insurance (which I'm sure can't be cheap for an elderly person).

Forget this clear tactic of getting people to fight against the very thing they should support, what else is Fox news doing here? They are suggesting that pumping 100s of thousands of dollars into surgeries for elderly people is the RIGHT thing to do. Providing coverage for children of the unemployed is the WRONG thing to do. Nice!

Same old fear mongering from the obstructionists...who hasn't been told that something would not be covered even when they have insurance.Insurance companies fight hard to get out of paying all the time after collecting those high premiums month after month.You only find out how good your coverage is after you are sick!!! They are really spinning a need to eliminate unnecessary surgeries/treatments for better /necessary care.There are many people that had a surgery they wish they never had or a surgery that did them no good but cost them a lot after what their insurance did cover!!!
If u use this line of logic from Fox,an insurance company that denies coverage to someone with a pre-existing condition is committing manslaughter or murder if that person can't afford treatment without insurance..right!?

Do these guys even speak english?

What a crock.
When three insurance company executives were asked if they would agree to only rescind coverage when fraud has been proven, not one agreed. They blabbed on about how they adhere to state laws while essentially saying that they would continue to yank coverage any old time they pleased.

These are the guys and this is the system these morons are supporting.

You know, if private insurance is so great, I think it's time that senators and congressmen who are standing in the way of reform take a stand and refuse the government care they receive. Go out into the private marketplace you champion for your heath care... I double-dog dare you.

They won't, of course. They'd have to be nuts to take a chance with private coverage when they've got it so good now.
Too bad they don't want the people they represent to have options too.

It is amazing how a man can take one word and express a statement that completely changes the direction of what the media was trying to relay. This commentators use of deserves really set up an inflamatory atmosphere for the rest of this dicussion. President Obama was expressing the need for us to get honest,realistic treatment from health care providers instead of lots of exspensive test or treatment. At what ever age an American citizen deserves to have treatments that will improve their life but if these treatments may cause a serious problems. Then all involved should be informed and the best type of treatment provided. Not just a health care provider deciding and that's law.

First: There is nothing subtle about euthanasia. It is pretty straightforward. You die.

Second: We're gonna die!!!!!!!!!!

When do think Gretchen Carlson is going to have a wardrobe malfunction? I bet every man over the age of 59 (Fox News demographic) prays for it everyday.