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Fox & Friends' health "exit strategy": "2009 version Brave New World, Soylent Green, 1984, Aldous Huxley kind of world"

July 28, 2009 10:07 am ET

From the July 28 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

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Previously:

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    • Author by MickD (July 28, 2009 10:09 am ET)
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      Dude, we're already in Brave New World and 1984. BushieCo made sure of that.
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      • Author by John Paradox (July 28, 2009 10:12 am ET)
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        Wasn't 1984 the manual for bushco?

        Also, be careful about mentioning 1984 (or Animal Farm) around anyone with a Kindle.
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    • Author by The_Cat (July 28, 2009 10:16 am ET)
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      "We don't want a loss of our health freedoms..."

      Okay, wise guy, point to that clause in the Constitution. The right to life, yes. The right to health freedoms? Are you proposing a new amendment to support a talking point?
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      • Author by magnolialover (July 28, 2009 11:10 am ET)
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        Thing is, we don't have this freedom already. As in, most of us are stuck with whatever health care we receive from the place that we work, whether we like it or not. I consider myself lucky, I've got a great plan that doesn't cost me too much, mostly because I'm just covering myself (my wife has her own plan at work).

        Hardly anyone is free to choose which health plan they want. Sure, you can, but most normal people can't afford to pay for it on their own, sometimes to the tune of more than $1000 for just a single coverage, and a lot more if you're looking at covering say, a family of 4 (wife, husband, and 2 kids).

        The insurance industry already controls your health care fate. I wish that stupid republicans and conservatives would stop saying we'd lose our "freedom" of health care. We already lost it you dumbos.
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        • Author by shaggles (July 28, 2009 12:44 pm ET)
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          Yep. I've yet to hear a fear-mongering argument against a public option that isn't already happening. Unfortunately that's rarely pointed out in the MSM.
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        • Author by nerzog (July 28, 2009 1:58 pm ET)
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          Sadly, a lot of the people on the Right clamoring that they are "self sufficient" don't even realize that their employer is paying for half of their Insurance premiums already.
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    • Author by TheKidFromKountyMeath (July 28, 2009 10:17 am ET)
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      I love how he phrases that in such a way that it seems like they think "Brave New World" was written by someone other than Aldous Huxley. Or maybe that "Aldous Huxley" is a book title. I'd believe either one of FNC.
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    • Author by pasteve (July 28, 2009 11:13 am ET)
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      Let's see. I have health insurance. I got a choice of one company and three plans of various costs. That company gave me a list of 10 doctors "in my ares" to choose from. Those doctors send me to "a" specialist of their choosing, and any medications I get have to be bought at a pharmacy which honors my prescription plan (I pay extra for that). My "health freedoms" as they are presented to me, are limited. Of course, I could pay as an individual to get into a different plan, but that would be very expensive as I would lose any group plan clout.

      The administration blew this. They presented this issue in a way that fed into the whole socialized medicine paranoia. They should have felt this out. Many insured people are unhappy with their plans or the cost of their plans, and would have been supportive of a change for the better, as it affected them personally. We have great health care, we have a less than great health care access/delivery system. He should have clarified this and have been very specific about what he was trying to do, instead of letting pundits fill in the gaps for him.

      Obama could have stated that the system needed to be fixed, and asked Congress, including Republicans, for their ideas. Then he should have waited and put the burden on Congress to develop a bill that would control costs and would have presented more popular options for all three classes of unemployed uninsured, working uninsured and working insured. As it is, they rushed this thing and as a result have nothing to show for it.
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      • Author by nerzog (July 28, 2009 2:00 pm ET)
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        I reluctantly agree that the Democrats have probably blown it.... again. They apparently learned little from the debacle of 1993.
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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (July 28, 2009 3:17 pm ET)
             
          The Democrats get the same money from Big Pharma and the insurance companies that the GOP does. They have their free health plan, ironically, run by the government. They don't want just anyone to be able to have that.

          Last night on The Daily Show, Bill (always wrong) Kristol flatly stated that the American public doesn't deserve to have the best health care.
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