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Limbaugh on "rumor" that "older citizens will just be put out to pasture": "Obamacare plan contains ... end of life"

July 30, 2009 1:22 pm ET

From the July 30 edition of Premiere Radio Network's The Rush Limbaugh Show:

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    • Author by TheKidFromKountyMeath (July 30, 2009 1:24 pm ET)
         
      So do all those transfats.
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    • Author by DAWUSS (July 30, 2009 1:25 pm ET)
         
      http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/rushlimbaugh.com#demographics

      Need I say more?


      BTW, what's with the playback of BHO?
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      • Author by Conchobhar (July 30, 2009 1:44 pm ET)
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        I'm pretty sure that my anecdotal observation, that it's almost impossible to concentrate on what the President is saying through the distraction of the distortion, would be backed up by scientific research.
        So Limpballs gets the best of a number of worlds: he's treating the President with a signature lack of respect, he's distorting what the President is saying, but he's not "taking it out of context."

        He probably thinks it's clever and, for his Limmings, it probably is. For a rational person, not so much.
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    • Author by shaggles (July 30, 2009 1:29 pm ET)
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      The rumour that you helped spread? And let's be clear. There is no 'Obamacare' plan. The President does not write legislation.
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      • Author by DAWUSS (July 30, 2009 1:32 pm ET)
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        I dunno... I think Bush did it a couple of times...
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        • Author by Conchobhar (July 30, 2009 1:38 pm ET)
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          No, he brought in corporate honchos to do it. Max Baucus seems to be doing the same thing.
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    • Author by The_Cat (July 30, 2009 1:29 pm ET)
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      "Rumor has it" is a very disingenuous way to begin a segment when the rumor was started by you, Mr. Limbaugh. I understand that you can usually fool your feeble-minded listeners, but do not think that you are fooling anyone else.

      Is there end of life counseling in the bill? Yes. It provides an opportunity to begin planning for a person's death. Death is inevitable, so some planning is perhaps not the most foolish thing ever. Tell me, Mr. Limbaugh, do you also rant and rail against people who sell prepackaged funeral plans? That's also 'end of life' counseling, or are you too dim or too hypocritical to realize this?
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      • Author by Conchobhar (July 30, 2009 1:36 pm ET)
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        Spot on, Felix.
        At the present time, as far as I know, and definitely 20 years ago yesterday, when my father died, enrollment in a hospice program required a recognition that the end was near, and an acceptance of that fact, with a rejection of heroic measures to prolong life, and a reliance on palliative care. This was not a government program.
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        • Author by worrierking (July 30, 2009 1:57 pm ET)
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          That's right Conchobhar.

          And another thing that the fat man refuses to recognize is that the decision to enter a hospice program is voluntary. And once the choice is made, it's reversible.

          Another thing that many people don't realize is that as far as insurance plans go, sometimes, a better level of care is authorized. As my first wife was dying, our insurance company would not pay for in home nursing. Our local visiting nurse association recommended my wife enter their hospice program and then she was approved for in home nursing care for a few hours a day.

          I get angry when I hear these cretins talk about hospice like it's something from a horror movie. Especially since I've seen hospice work. If helped not only my wife, but our entire family.

          Believe it or not, a few years later, I married a hospice nurse who also lost her spouse. I'm so proud of her and her co-workers for the work they do to ease suffering for patients and their loved ones.
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        • Author by eddiebear2 (July 30, 2009 4:03 pm ET)
             
          So, if the gov't screws up everything else it touches, will their run "just die already" lead to those people O-care wants to die actually living longer?
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          • Author by Conchobhar (July 30, 2009 5:28 pm ET)
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            That's a big "if." It's only when conservatives run the government that it screws up everything it touches, because they have reinforce their ideology.
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    • Author by adrian.b.rhodes303 (July 30, 2009 1:52 pm ET)
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      It's, no doubt, important to hear and understand what opposing forces are saying--if for nothing else than to know the TRUE nature of what you're dealing with. That being said, I'm not sure I can stomach listening to much more of this guy....

      First, the absolutely disrespectful way in which he airs the Presidents' responses is a tasteless tactic to make Obama look stupid. Secondly (and had you not actually watched the meeting and seen this response in its entirety) Rush ALWAYS truncates the clip and then "explains" what either the Pres. is trying to say or what the bill itself says (as though we are to believe that he has actually read ANY of what he's talking about). These tactics are tired...and only work on those either lack sufficient intelligence to see through them, or on those who already believe as Rush does, and are simply looking for an excuse to justify themselves. Any idiot knows (or COULD know with a 3rd grade reading comprehension) that the clause in the proposed bill to which he refers does not mandate an end-of-life consultation. To paraphrase: the clause simply says that if... IF a patient so chooses, they can (no more than once in any 5-year period) receive a consultation to discuss and determine their own wishes for end-of-life and/or emergency care life saving measures.

      I don't know why I waste my energy--the idiots who keep pushing this LIE know the truth...they do. They're just banking on the same old tired scare tactics and media buzz-words and general ignorance to get what they want--the continued favor of their corporate masters and the failure of those 'damned liberals' and their Muslim/illegal alien/socialist/communist President....
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (July 30, 2009 2:04 pm ET)
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      What the hell is wrong with these people?! End of Life conunselling teaches people about trusts, living wills, powers of attourney, estate laws, taxes, etc... Have you ever tried to figure this $#!t out for yourself? It's mindboggling! All the retired lawyers that run this country wrote the laws to insure that their successors would have plenty of work. And boy do they!

      WHY DO THEY HATE PEOPLE HAVING GOOD INFORMATION AND KNOWING WHAT THEIR RIGHTS AND OBLIGATIONS ARE??!!

      It must be so nice to
      (1) have so much money that you can wave a hand, and hire someone to 'take care of it all'
      and
      (2) have so little responsability in your life (3 x-wives and no kids or family) that you don't even need to worry, or care what happens to your estate when you die.

      These people are such scumbags. Why does anyone in their right money listen these lying, no-talent, @$$-clowns?
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      • Author by MiddleLeft (July 30, 2009 2:11 pm ET)
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        I heard on NPR yesterday what this is all about. Under the current Medicare system, doctors can discuss end of life issues during the initial medicare exam and that time will be paid. The proposal would allow another paid visit or consultation every 5 years to update the patient on their end-of life planning. That's all it does.

        Horrible isn't it.
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (July 30, 2009 3:56 pm ET)
             
          Yeah - GOD FORBID people have up to date information.

          Scum-sucking bastards these crackpots are.
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    • Author by KLJTech (July 30, 2009 3:13 pm ET)
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      Isn't it very convenient for Limbaugh that "rumor has it" that Obama wants to kill off the largest voting block in this country. He's decided to go with the scare tactics that are are normally saved for election years. The sad thing is that far too many people in this country will fall for junk like this. Many even if they know it isn't true will help spread the "rumor".

      Who would have thought that 7 months into his term as President that many GOP talking heads would be on TV and radio still saying that Obama isn't even a natural born citizen of our country?

      I know that it's off topic but can you imagine how these people would act if one of President Obama's daughters were to get pregnant at the exact same age as Sarah Palin's daughter did? Yet many in the GOP love this woman that quit on the people in Alaska that voted for her.

      I seem to remember that during the Bush years if you said anything against the president that you were called out for being un-American. You'd hear things like you can't talk that way about the president when we're at war! Now that the GOP is no longer in power they're acting like spoiled little children and they're pitching a fit daily.
      Rant over...sorry.
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