Dobbs responds to "Swift Boat of the left" Media Matters' birther ad: "This is just really extraordinary"
From the July 31 edition of United Stations Radio Networks' The Lou Dobbs Show:
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Plum Line: Media Matters Running Ads Attacking Lou Dobbs' Birther Obsession - On CNN!
DOBBS: And we're checking this right now, and -- because we haven't gotten a clarification from CNN, but, again, a couple of outfits are reporting, these are websites reporting that Media Matters -- which is the left-wing advocacy group; they try to pose as some sort of watchdog. They're nothing more than a rabid, left-wing operation. They're just an attack group. They're sort of the Swift Boat of the left, if you will. Here we go. Media Matters to run ads attacking Lou Dobbs' birther obsession -- it is now a Birther obsession - on CNN. A Media Matters spokesman saying that the group has bought a week of ad time on CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News in D.C., New York, and Atlanta, set to run Tuesday. And here is the allegation: It puts CNN, they say, in the position of either running the spot or nixing it and making this a bigger story, say they.
This is just really extraordinary. But at least CNN will make a little money on the deal, so I just don't get it. I'd like to know what you think about this. I mean, because I said the following -- listen to what I said. I said I believe Barack Obama is a citizen of the United States, but I don't understand why he doesn't just produce his long-form birth certificate and be done with it. For that, I have been attacked -- I mean, from Bill Maher, from the left all over the country and almost every medium. It is extraordinary -- I mean, I don't know who in the world hasn't attacked me on this issue. While we find -- what find that most -- you know, over 80 percent in an AOL Hotspot poll believe -- basically side with me, 82 percent. Why not just produce the birth certificate?
It isn't an issue of legitimacy; it isn't an issue of citizenship. It isn't an issue -- because I believe he's a citizen of the United States. It's an issue of just being open, transparent -- deliver the goods and be done with it and move on. So it's either then -- if it's not openness and transparency, then it's pretty much arrogance on the part of this president, that he's above the very same principles that were followed by, amongst others, John McCain throughout his campaign, going to the issue of natural-born citizen, going to openness and legitimace [sic] -- whether it's his school records, whether it's his medical records, none of that apparently persuasive or something that Barack Obama feels that he must follow.
So it'll be interesting to see what Media Matters runs. That sounds like a fascinating ad.
It's your Career that is almost through.
You should try to save yourself and stop spreading Lies.
Lou, What is really going on here? How many times did you watch "Lord of the Flies"
Speak truth to power.
Mr. News
I remember when he used to think it was a good thing and that those doing the Swift Boating were telling the truth.
I guess I shouldn't expect consistency of thought from a wingnut.
If he was really being honest, he would be asking the birthers how they think Obama got a US passport. He would be asking them for a reasonable explanation for the birth notices. He should be asking why a Republican governor who supported McCain would back up Obama's claim of citizenship. He should be asking why they are demanding to see more information about this president than any other president has been asked for.
If he was honest, he would admit that this president has already been more forthcoming than Bush ever was (can you say "National Guard"?).
And if he had half the integrity he pretends to have, he would apologize and move on.
Coz, ya know, facts are all about believing.
Even if both were already on the internet for everyone to see (I am not claiming both versions are, nor do I know the difference), he may ask for the non-forged document.
If someone slapped him with the original document, he will ask for proof that Obama was NOT born in Kenya.
Greater than 50% of participating voters voted for Obama. If it turns out that Obama is really a Martian, so what? Majority rules.
Lou Dobbs didn't get anything "right." Lou Dobbs is getting a lot of heat for his stupidity in supporting the birther wack-jobs.
Lou Dobbs: Because accountability is for Mexicans.
Oh, and look at this little gem I found at think progress!
So there it is. Republicans aren't interested in debating the issues, they want to disrupt and rattle people. And then their apologists have the nerve to tell liberals to debate them fairly? Lying bunch of twits...
... Not Have An Intelligent Debate...stand up and shout out and sit right back down.
Hey, that's just about what Pointy did in his post above.
The 'unbiased' questions are on the edge of hilarity. (Oh, my friend is Republican, but not a wingnut)
Actually I considered posting my 'spam mail' account at lycos, and see how many neocons flipped off flame, but db is already my source for all thing wingnut.
THX
J/P=?
You want to release your medical records? Of course not, and neither do most Americans. Did you ask Bush for his birth certificate? How about Reagan? Even Clinton didn't get asked for a birth certificate. Why? Because such a charge would've been patently absurd. Welcome to the White House, Mr. President. Could you show us your papers? What are you, trying to resurrect the Gestapo?
If his citizenship is not an issue, then THERE IS NO ISSUE. Ooops. Except race, of course.
(Hint - the answer is between 0 and 0)
I think you mean "racial epithet".
Snoopy's about as racist as a glass of water, BTW.
That is, a phony propaganda issue has been exposed as such, much more evidence than was necessary has been made available to prove it was a ridiculous smear campaign, but somehow the pressure is on the President to respond an endless list of requests to appease these batshyte domestic terrorists.
And for anybody who's going to post here that this is a silly fringe issue, and Dobbs should be ignored;
59% of Republicans are being fooled
And, from a poster on this very thread, who has actually been exposed to the facts;
Lou got it right
The fact that lots of stupidity and denial, mainly denial, come from the right.
Lou, I've highlighted the facts for you there. Please explain again what the rest of your bloviating was about? You owe the President of the United States a public apology, otherwise you should just be fired.
Twenty years later, I needed a recent copy from the state to use for a passport application. What I got back was no longer a photo of the original record, but a "true copy", a computerized certificate that had all the same information on it.
The reason is very simple. The original pages are fragile, and they computerized the records. In effect, the state is swearing that this is a "true copy" -- not a photocopy -- of the original document. There's a state seal stamped on it to attest to the fact that it is a "true copy." A lot of the irrelevant information, like the tincture of mercurochrome applied, are omitted. Duh.
I got my passport, by the way.
His viewership has dropped 27% amongst prime demographic in the past two weeks because of this "reluctance" to accept reality.
" I believe that Barak Obama was born in Hawaii and is a citizen of the United States. But; even though I believe this, I will continue to rant that the president needs to produce a type of birth certificate that the state of Hawaii does not release anymore. For the sake of transparancy (and the hope to build ratings or boost my image for a move to Fox) I believe the president should pass a law forcing Hawaii to release this birth certificate. That is, unless the rumours are true and Obama wasn't actually born in Hawaii but; was actually born on the planet Pluton, and has been a practicing Pluton Muslonian since his birth 634 years ago. I thank you, and that is the news for tonight"
If Dobbs refers to "The Swift Boat on the Left", in terms that I can only understand to be deragatory. (e.g. Swift Boating is bad) Does that mean that he believes that the rights Swift Boating of Kerry was wrong or that only the right is allowed to Swift Boat people the disagree with/don't like?
(as oxymoronic as 'subtle' and 'right wing' together may sound)
The Swift Boaters were Great/Real Americans [TM] to the RW, but the term 'Swift Boating' is derogatory. A similar case would be "borked", where a great jurist (gag!) was denied his Rightful Place [TM] because of libruls.
The term is separate from the actual group, just as almost every subject in the Neocon World is apart from every other
e.g. Birthers: though they claim that State governments are inherently more capable, honest and efficient than the Federal government, they void the claims/proof of Hawaii that the COLB is valid
CNN is shameless and disgusting b y promoting this type
racism and political views. This is not what this country
is about... airing his comments is degrading and brings back
a racial division in the quest and who we elected in office.
you seem incapable of rational thought when it comes to racial diversification, why you have a television program is beyond me.
Obama’s Birth Certificate presents the following anomalies:
a.- It has no State Of Hawaii Seal.
b.- It has no signature
c.- It has no crease. All Hawaiian BC’s are mailed and are hence creased.
d.- Obama’s BC doesn’t tells us who filed it.
e.-Obama's BC was filed the same day Barack was born. By whom? Mother in the Hospital, Obama Sr an immigrant for sure wouldn't know where to go file it.
f.-Obama’s BC doesn’t tell us what Hospital was he born in. Most Hawaiian BC’s say so clearly.
g.-Obama’s BC doesn’t mention the Name of the doctor who delivered baby Barack. 99% of Hawaii BC’s clearly say so.
Conclusion: OBAMA’S BC IS 100% FAKE AND THIS MAN MUST SHOW not only his Birth Certificate but all his personal ID documents for public inspection OR STEP DOWN IMMEDIATELY .
In My Humble opinion Obama is an Usurper, a fraud and must be expelled now.
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It has been continuous Constitutional policy that any child born from an American Citizen’s womb is a citizen regardless of place of birth.
However, there is not the slightest credible evidence that Stanley Ann Obama left the United States at any time during her pregnancy, which would be double-American citizenship.
Travel to Kenya required Yellow Fever vaccination, which would not be given to pregnant women, and entry into US would require proof of YFV vaccination to Barack Obama Junior, which would never be given for any child under aged one years old. It was medically impossible for Stanley to bear her child in Kenya that year. The Obamas were FAMOUS students at the University of Hawaii: Stanley had the odd first name and was interracially married at a time that miscegenation laws were recently present in some states. Barack Senior was the FIRST BLACK student ever at Univ Hawaii.
This couple stood out so conspicuously that it should be possible to reconstruct their lives hour by hour for the entire month leading up to B.O.’s birth at Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Honolulu, also called Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital, on Aug. 4, 1961.
There does appear to be criminal fraud involved in asserting Kenya documentation of Obama’s birth, and there is no grounds for automatic acceptance of such claims — Hawaii issued a valid birth certificate suitable for all birth proof purposes, and the State stands by that fact today.