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Limbaugh on Obama's "snitch website": Where are "leftist civil libertarians" who opposed Bush's efforts "to catch terrorists"?

August 06, 2009 2:47 pm ET

From the August 6th edition of Premiere Radio Network's Rush Limbaugh:

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Previously:

Limbaugh on flag@whitehouse.gov: "Obama's own exclusive private domestic spying program"

Beck calls flag@whitehouse.gov an "enemies list"

Fox & Friends claims White House creating "snitch list"; compares "director of new media" to "minister of information"

Krauthammer says Obama's call for tips on health care used "Orwellian language that you expect" from Chavez

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    • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (August 06, 2009 2:54 pm ET)
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      I have an answer to Limbaugh's question: "There aren't any."
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      • Author by gwadsworth (August 06, 2009 3:38 pm ET)
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        What? Are you serious? You guys fought bush on every terrorist issue you could. You said wiretapping was an invasion of privacy, yet having people use hitler like snitch websites to find those who give out what they percieve as misinformation isnt? Sounds like a dose of hypocrisy from the left side of the plate.
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        • Author by WhatImlost (August 06, 2009 5:17 pm ET)
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          Your right. We should just let elected officals and talking head tell their listeners/voters that the Governments sole purpose in passing health care reform is to kill old people.

          Also we should let the tell you that the government wont go its own goverment funded healthcare plan, despite the fact all government empolyees are already on and have been for decades, government funded health care.

          Lastly telling people the government can not manage and administer healthcare in timely matter is ok right? nevermind that the last time I checked everybody, even those who oppose healthcare reform love the way medicare fuctions. There is no reason to tell people that medicare is government funded health care.


          See all of those are examples of FACTUALLY WRONG things to be telling people, followed up by the truth that people should know.
          That is what that wants to clamp down on, the FACTUALLY WRONG stuff.

          No one is saying you cant disagree about healthcare reform. Maybe you dont think we can afford it, maybe you dont think it will cause any real reform. Maybe you think that the public option is too powerful. These things are all open to debate, and this is what the government wants to discuss with you. But everyone is instead talking about the first 3 examples on just straight untrue things. If we as a country can stop fixating on the untruth stuff we can actually adress your concerns about the debatable stuff.

          Thats the point of the website, help the government clamp down on the factually untrue things so they can focus on and adress the debatable points and attempt to get you the best healthcare reform they can once they are actually able to talk to you about what you'd want in the bill, or even why you a legitimate reason not to want healtcare reform (IE something other then the government cant manage healthcare as they already are for their own employees, the Military, medicare and medicaid.)
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          • Author by hoagie (August 06, 2009 8:33 pm ET)
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            So, why is it ok then to allow Al Gore to continue to spout propoganda about global warming, which at this point has not been proven as a fact and a lot of us don't believe is true, or to allow Michael Moore to put out movies saying it is better to go to Cuba to get health care? Wondering why it is ok for the left to say whatever they want and when the right dares to critize the obamamaniacs, all of a sudden its all lies and we should be reported to big brother.
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          • Author by Dut (August 07, 2009 3:43 pm ET)
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            "Lastly telling people the government can not manage and administer healthcare in timely matter is ok right? "

            - No other country that has Government run health care can. Its hard to believe this will be the first time it works, especially when we are destroying the best healthcare system in the world to take the chance.

            "Governments sole purpose in passing health care reform is to kill old people"

            - Its in noway the intent of the Government to kill old people. However, treatment will be restricted to those who the Government sees as too old to benefit. Same way its run in other government run health care systems. Not to mention that Obama confirmed that himself.


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        • Author by internet soldier (August 06, 2009 5:33 pm ET)
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          Right wing definition of freedom of speech;
          My right NEVER to be criticized for anything I say.

          Quoting me correctly is just as much a violation of my civil libeties as spying on me without a warrant or torturing me.

          Its gestapo tactics!

          Good God, are you trying to be as stupid as you can possibly be? It must be hard work.
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        • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (August 06, 2009 5:51 pm ET)
             
          who opposed Bush's efforts "to catch terrorists"?
          Those weren't programs weren't trying to "catch terrorists", they were to establish a fascist police state. Very little Bush did under the guise of fighting terrorism did anything to thwart terrorism. Instead, it was a power grab the far-right. The ruse of fear allowed them to do what they always wanted to do, bring their form of fascism to America.
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        • Author by The_Cat (August 07, 2009 11:30 am ET)
             
          Warrnatless -domestic- wiretapping IS an invasion of privacy, gwadsworth. They weren't searching for terrorists, they were searching for dissenters in America. That is simple police state fascism, and that's all it is. Remember Nixon? Cheney worked for Nixon. The Watergate break in? Not one bit different than warrantless domestic wiretapping. Both illegal surveillance designed to thwart opposing viewpoints. Both examples of government abusing it's power, and the trust of the American people.

          President Obama is asking Americans to notify him of misinformation so that the public can have a clearer, more accurate picture of health coverage reform.

          Bush suppressed intel opposed to his "Iraq's gots weapons of mass destruction" lie. He deliberately misled the American people into a war.

          If you can't honestly see the difference in these two mindsets, then you are probably a conservative.
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      • Author by elbrown9 (August 06, 2009 11:47 pm ET)
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        anyone know how to get to obamas snitch sit i want to report my self because i sure dont like that person a bit
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    • Author by The_Cat (August 06, 2009 3:08 pm ET)
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      Look no further than your own deluded paranoid drug fueled fantasies, Rush. That's where they are. The lunatics are in your head!
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      • Author by gwadsworth (August 06, 2009 3:39 pm ET)
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        He took painkillers. So did bret favre. He admitted he had a problem and got help.
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        • Author by The_Cat (August 06, 2009 5:36 pm ET)
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          So, you're suggesting these paranoid fantasies are the result of some sort of organic damage, then? Perhaps he should be rounded up by the men in the white coats and given a CAT scan, then. "Leftist civil libertarians" is a non sequitur wrapped in a paradox. Of course, that just means it makes about as much real world sense as anything else that comes out of his mouth.
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        • Author by RABBITLUVR (August 06, 2009 9:15 pm ET)
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          Nice try, fool. Care to tell us what Rush said about drug dealers and users before his ass was busted?
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          • Author by The_Cat (August 07, 2009 11:14 am ET)
               
            Or about welfare -after- getting food stamps and unemployment benefits?
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    • Author by TheKidFromKountyMeath (August 06, 2009 3:09 pm ET)
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      We're still opposing Obama's waffling on Bush-era things like Guantanamo and torture prosecution. You know, things that MATTER, as opposed to things that fuel your O'Reilly-esque pants-crapping terror about the mysterious Inter-Nets.
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (August 06, 2009 3:22 pm ET)
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        Now Hannity & Boss Hogg are both using the word "snitch", a word usually only heard from the mouths of jailbirds and petty drug dealers. A "snitch" is usually somebody who is hated by criminals.

        I remember when schoolkids were being encouraged to tell authorities if their parents were smoking pot in the privacy of their homes, and I don't recall the wingnuts being too upset about that.

        To compare wiretapping peoples' private conversations with noting news outlets or websites promoting lies is a stretch even for somebody as detached from reality as Rush.

        Besides, what is Rush worried about? He clearly says that Obama is only asking for reports of propaganda, then insists that all of the propaganda is coming from Obama. If Rush is right, then there will be nothing to report, and this "snitch website" will be a total bust.

        Just like this here website, Mediamatters. They've been trying to catch Rush lying, misleading or generally being a misinformed idiot for years, and have only managed to document a measly few thousand incidents. They ignore all the times he's right, like when he announces the time.

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        • Author by gwadsworth (August 06, 2009 3:47 pm ET)
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          Ok first of all comparing the failures of universal healthcare and kids smoking pot is a huge reach. Pot is illegal. We have freedom of speech. If i disagree with obamas policies i have a right to voice them. Also who determines what is considered propoganda? If i say at a friends house that universal healthcare will bankrupt the US do i need to worry about secret service knocking down my door? Its non of his business.
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          • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (August 06, 2009 5:24 pm ET)
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            Ok first of all comparing the failures of universal healthcare and kids smoking pot is a huge reach.

            Very true, I'm in full agreement.Good thing nobody did that. I compared reporting lies with reporting drug use.

            Pot is illegal.

            Again, true, agreed.


            We have freedom of speech.

            Batting 1000 so far. The website speaking out against misinformation is solidly covered by the 1st amendment.


            If i disagree with obamas policies i have a right to voice them.

            You certainly do (voice your opinion,not Obama's policies I'm assuming you meant). And if you get your facts wrong, others have just as much right to point it out.

            Also who determines what is considered propoganda?

            That word can be pretty subjective, but facts are not.'Misinformation" and "false statements" are what are being asked for.Subjective grey areas can be debated, but only if they're exposed.Do you think possible propaganda should be kept hidden, rather than being openly discussed as Obama is requesting?

            If i say at a friends house that universal healthcare will bankrupt the US do i need to worry about secret service knocking down my door?

            Yes, absolutely. Sorry, I couldn't give a serious answer to a question as ridiculous as that. If you really ask that sort of question in real life, you may want to do some research or adjust your medications.


            Its non of his business.

            I agree with you on this point. It would be outrageous for any president to listen in on the private conversations of citizens without just cause.We might as well have kept Bush in if we wanted wiretapping and spying.Luckily, Obama only wants to know of news outlets or websites that are misinforming, in order to exercise his free speech rights and answer them.

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          • Author by The_Cat (August 06, 2009 5:41 pm ET)
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            Just as a general rule, I'd consider propaganda to be deliberate lies told in furtherance of a political agenda. 'Obamacare' will kill your grandma is pure propaganda. 'Obamacare' will ration health care is another.

            "Pot is illegal." While this is true, it misses the point that Reagan was calling for 'snitches', and Rush didn't bat an eye. I doubt pot remains illegal for very much longer, by the way.
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            • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (August 06, 2009 5:54 pm ET)
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              Yeah, Cat, there was really too much stoopid to address there. I was just giving a pass on the stating the obvious lines, just to note how pointless they were.

              But, I could have added that Libel is illegal, and if there is anything libelous in any of these GOP statements, I believe we should be made aware of them.

              A lot of propagandists, however,are pretty skilled at walking the line - technically true statements that may not be lies, but are deliberately misleading, and in a free society, the other side should be given the chance to answer.

              Why do conservatives hate freedom so much?
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        • Author by shaggles (August 06, 2009 3:52 pm ET)
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          "I remember when schoolkids were being encouraged to tell authorities if their parents were smoking pot in the privacy of their homes, and I don't recall the wingnuts being too upset about that."

          Now that's what I call a nanny state. ;)
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        • Author by The_Cat (August 06, 2009 4:13 pm ET)
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          "I remember when schoolkids were being encouraged to tell authorities if their parents were smoking pot in the privacy of their homes, and I don't recall the wingnuts being too upset about that."

          Made this very same point elsewhere, Col. Harlan Sanders. Not that it will penetrate the 'party uber alles' mentality on the right, of course.
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    • Author by shaggles (August 06, 2009 3:50 pm ET)
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      You can go in and report those if you like Rush. In fact I'm surprised you aren't telling people to go in and clog up the system with a bunch of bogus links.
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    • Author by internet soldier (August 06, 2009 5:47 pm ET)
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      If you point out my deceitful comments, you're a snitch. Just like if you tell the cops about that body in my trunk. Its all too appropriate that fox and Limbaugh are now throwing a term around which started in prison as a label for those who told guards about the illegal activaties of the prisoners. You just gotta love the modern right-wing.
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      • Author by bobssled (August 07, 2009 11:26 am ET)
           
        This is really simple. Liberals have an opinion about healthcare, and so do conservatives. An opinion. Nothing more nothing less. Most from both views haven't even read the legislation, nor could understand it if they did. And neither can predict the impact. Bottom line no matter what your political bent having an email address for "snitching" on those you think are putting out misinformation is wrong and usually only happens in communist countries. The key word is "think". So I ask, what's next? This kind of behavior is going to go a long way to get him and other democrats voted right out of Washington.
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