Imus: Obama a "hypocritical phony" for demanding "context" for Rev. Wright comments but not being "willing to do that with me"
August 06, 2009 10:57 pm ET
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Imus tries for a few moments to take full responsibility, but in the end playing the victim card is just too tempting so it becomes--I take responsibility for what I said but where was Obama to defend poor me too? Perhaps he heard your show.
And it's always great to see Sean question someone's work in their community. I wonder what Sean's contributions to the greater good have been? Giving his gardener a little something extra on Christmas?
Equality in action in America.
The issue is that the racism from Wright is ignored by the media who collectively look the other way.
It sure is funny how in right-wing world only black and Latina people are racist, and the WASPy people who've always held all the power are completely objective and benevolent.
The corporate media obsessed over this Rev. Wright nonsense for weeks. They thought they finally had the garbage needed to bring down Obama.
The only problem was Obama's landslide was so overwhelming, even the garbage from the corporate media couldn't turn the tide.
You folks on the right are so delusional its funny....Fact is, nothing Rev. Wright said was actually racist except to the RACIST folks he was talking about that spun his words out of context, and hint....They aren't black, latino, or asian.........And yes, its always the de-facto racist, who think everyone ELSE is racist, when in fact its only those who are in power that can actually practice racism. And last time I checked, whites where the power plutocracy of this country.......
So its funny that Imus would think that any other contex could be given to "nappy headed ho's" other than it being a racist comment....Sort of like the boston cop trying to spin saying "jungle monkey" about a black professor into wine, I guess a lot of you white folks liken yourselves to Jesus........
And its funny how nobody who was so offended by Rev. Wright, back then, to this day, can prove that anything he said wasnt true!!!
But lets assume for the sake of argument that he did do some good and was entitled to some context. Wasn't Imus equally deserving of the same? His good works have been well documented, including his good works for the benefit of disadvantaged black kids. Doesn't he deserve the same context as Wright? Did he get it? Nope they called for his head. And they defended Wright. Is that fair?
A guy like Imus can easily be dismissed as a fool when he says something stupid. A respected Reverend is a much more serious situation. A man who is supposed to be guiding his parishioners to a better route than hatred. Wright sould take a refresher course on the preachings of Dr King.
Why don't you use Google and see what you can find about Rev Wright's work in the community. It sounds like you don't do much research so this would be a good exercise.
Then when you're done, we'll check your work against our own Google search.
Here's a hint though... usually church leaders do a lot of good work for their communities, so Rev Wright might have done a little more that the great and powerful Imus.
Okay. Ready?
Go!
But why not address the real issue, or do you even understand it. I was willing to concede that Wright may have done some good, perhaps your reading comprehension could not grasp that. And I then asked if Imus was not entitled to the same benefit of the doubt that Wright got. Care to comment on that point.
Benefit of doubt? What you talkin' about, FL? Obama's benefit of doubt for his preacher? I'd kind of hope that people who know me would afford me some small benefit of doubt if I put my foot in my mouth just as I'd expect them to be less understanding if I continued inserting my foot.
Or do you mean the benefit of doubt the media gave Wright, because if that's what you're talking about then you and I probably get our information from different places.
Imus' benefit of doubt can be heard every morning on a number of radio stations and on the Internet. He's working again or didn't you know? Somebody clearly gave him a very lucrative benefit of doubt.
Hopefully you won't be disappointed that I didn't call you some demeaning name. I would have tried, by you're so much better at it than I am.
I'm glad to see you that you worried about Imus. Just between you and me, you don't always come off as the most caring person. Sometimes, I think you have a big chip on your shoulder.
I get your whole Imus infatuation and that's cool. Nothing wrong with that. What I don't understand is why you care that the left didn't give him the benefit of doubt. He seemed to get lots of it from the right. Were we all supposed to come together on this issue?
Again, you do know he's been back on the radio for quite some time, so I don't think he was dumpster diving to make ends meet. I kind of think having a job again meant someone gave him the benefit of doubt. I know he seemed hurt that more people didn't support him, but I imagine that's just for show.
Take care, FL. I'm off to read TR and catch JS.
Trinity and Wright were profiled by correspondent Roger Wilkins in Sherry Jones's documentary "Keeping the Faith" broadcast as the June 16, 1987 episode of the PBS series Frontline with Judy Woodruff.[22] In 1995, Wright was asked to deliver a prayer during an afternoon session of speeches at the Million Man March in Washington, D.C.[23]
Wright, who began the "Ministers in Training" ("M.I.T.") program at Trinity United Church of Christ, has been a national leader in promoting theological education and the preparation of seminarians for the African-American church.[24] The church's mission statement is based upon systematized Black liberation theology that started with the works of James Hal Cone.[25][26]
Wright has been a professor at Chicago Theological Seminary, Garrett Evangelical Theological Seminary and other educational institutions. Wright has served on the Board of Trustees of Virginia Union University, Chicago Theological Seminary and City Colleges of Chicago. He has also served on the Board Directors of Evangelical Health Systems, the Black Theology Project, the Center for New Horizons and the Malcolm X School of Nursing, and on boards and committees of other religious and civic organizations.[8]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Wright
I've heard the context of Rev. Wright's comments and while I think he still went to far, there's no question at all they were still blown WAAAAY out of proportion, entirely becasue the were taken OUT OF CONTEXT, which changes the WHOLE MEANING of what was being said!
So yeah, please, if you're so smart, why do you try explaining away Imus' remarks by putting them in context.
Gooooooood luckwithat.
It has nothing to do with the context of his comments. Got it now?
Here's a tip, Sunday is the most segregated day of the week. Now why is that?
WHATEVER "good work" Don Imus does has absolutely NOTHING to do with his degrading, demeaning, insulting comments about a group of young African American basketball players.
Don Imus could have given a kidney to a dying man, gave blood to a dying president and he STILL would be a a**hole, for what he said about a group of young African Americans college basketball players!
How many times did you write a letter, or send an e-mail when Rev. Hagee said, "The woman is “the Great Whore,” Hagee explains, and she is drinking “the blood of the Jewish people.” That’s because the Great Whore represents “the Roman Church,” which, in his view, has thirsted for Jewish blood throughout history, from the Crusades to the Holocaust"?
How many times did you protest, send a letter, write an e-mail, when Jerry Falwell said "God may have allowed what the nation deserved (9/11) because of moral decay and said Americans should have an attitude of repentance before God and asking for God's protection. He specifically listed the ACLU, abortionists, feminists, gays, and the People For the American way as sharing in the blame"?
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!
Imus should be fired and never forgiven, even though he sencerely apologized. The hate preaching Wright however should be given a pass
When Obama ridiculed handicapped people were you as unforgiving toward him?
And speaking of glass houses do you object to the "degrading, demeaning, insulting comments" about people on the right, like Palin for example. I'll bet you don't.
I am sure that Imus 'apologized' out of the kindness in his heart, not the lack of money going into his wallet. Poor Imus is a victim. He has hours upon hours on the radio and spews his nonsense whenever his warm heart desires.
It seems that you don't want to face the fact the Imus was playing in the dollar world, advertising, and that is what got him fired. It is also the reason he is back.
Again, what hate did Rv. Wright preach?
Sarah Palin (Q), the QOTUS. The official quitter of the United States. Is that demeaning or insulting or is it the truth?
You are such a joy around here. No one should ever challenge you. I hope you do not become a QOTUS also.
(And for the record, for any con's stupid enough to ask, NO, I would not want Jeremiah Wright to be POTUS, and I don;t imagine many here would... fewer, in any case, than the number of you who would vote for Pat Robertson.)
What did Imus say that need serious debate? His was noting more than a pointless stupid attack. It's impossible to take it out of context, because it HAD no context. There was no broader point trying to be made, it was just a stupid joke, at the expense of some highly achieving young people.
And THAT'S why one gets a "pass" (hah!) and one gets villified. One used controversial (arguably racist) language to make a POINT, while the other used it to make a JOKE, that HAD no broader political point.
You people really shouldn't used words like "racist" and "hypocrite" unitl you know what they mean.
I just wonder how Imus would have handled himself if he'd come in as a black man and dealt with the racism that Rev. Wright endured? He might not make such superficial comparisons...and he might even endorse some of Wright's more controversial remarks.
Maybe I should recalibrate my words?
Hannity's "Oh yes, he took the bait!" laugh.
Secondly, he lost his job because advertisers pulled their ads from him. So blame the advertisers and populace blow hard.
Lastly, helping black children does not mean you are not a racist.
What exactly has the President done or said that makes him a "hypocritical phony" in regards to this issue?