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Discussing violent Fla. protest and decline in civility, Barnicle asks, "What do they hear on talk radio all day long?"

August 07, 2009 11:24 am ET

From the August 7 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:

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    • Author by The_Cat (August 07, 2009 11:38 am ET)
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      Well, um, yeah, I mean, you absolutely can just blame it on the right, Joe. Don't be a putz.

      Who is willing to tell blatant and obvious lies, so long as it advances the agenda their corporate masters have set for them?

      Who is willing to disrupt democracy, in terms of Americans speaking locally with their elected officials about topics of immediate and urgent concern, by any means necessary, including busing people from place to place and giving them scripts and tips on how to shout down opposition?

      Who has spent the last six months comparing every single thing the President and Congress has done to Hitler, Marx, Lennin, Stalin, Chavez, etc. etc. etc.?

      I'll give you a hint: It ain't liberals!
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      • Author by dmhack (August 07, 2009 11:48 am ET)
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        Don't be a putz, Cat?
        Sound advice, but years too late for Moron Joe.
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        • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (August 07, 2009 12:18 pm ET)
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          Considering the definition of putz, dm, I don't think it's even possible for Scarborough to be one...
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          • Author by dmhack (August 07, 2009 12:43 pm ET)
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            All depends which definition you go with, lips.
            A putz can describe an idiot (check one for Moron Joe).
            Or it can reference a certain part of the male anatomy. Now if you go with that one then I'd have to say that he's still a putz, but most likely a very small putz.
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    • Author by Vincenzo (August 07, 2009 11:38 am ET)
         
      No, only the majority of the problem is on the right Joe! Conservatives are acting like vindictive children because they lost majorities in EVERYTHING. They're making up for it by being disruptive. I liken it to when your little brother tosses the Monopoly board after he goes bankrupt.
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    • Author by juliajayne1 (August 07, 2009 11:39 am ET)
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      Wrong Joe, I think you can blame the vast majority of it on the right. And the rich radio slobs and TV whores who cater to the monied interest day in and out. Get a reality check.
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    • Author by Max Credits (August 07, 2009 11:41 am ET)
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      Yes, those who yelled "Fire!" in the crowded theater can be held partly responsible for the stampede.
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      • Author by lookoutoftheyard2251 (August 07, 2009 11:48 am ET)
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        Oh, please. What are those dirty liberals doing, letting the theater get so crowded, anyway? If they don't prepare for the inevitable cries of "Fire!", they don't deserve to own that theater. RON PAUL 2012!
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        • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (August 07, 2009 11:55 am ET)
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          It's called winning the election, moe-ron! Obama won and now the right is trying to overthrow him with these brownshirt tactics. If you got your head out of Ron Paul's arse you'd see better...
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (August 07, 2009 11:59 am ET)
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            Sarcasm alert. Then again, these righties are so loony their posts often look like deliberate sarcasm.
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            • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (August 07, 2009 12:10 pm ET)
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              My apologies, foggie and yard2251. But my temper's been rather short of late, watching the republic shredded by a parcel of right-wing terrorists and all...
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              • Author by lookoutoftheyard2251 (August 09, 2009 10:47 pm ET)
                   
                No apology necessary. The temper's completely understood, believe me. I thought the Ron Paul thing would have made the sarcasm completely obvious, but I underestimated the crazy of the wingnuts. (Or maybe I'm just not good at sarcasm? This wasn't the first time a snide comment of mine has been taken seriously.)
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        • Author by bintx (August 07, 2009 1:06 pm ET)
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          It's called the same thing that was done in the 30s in Germany. The order is to do whatever is necessary to shut down responsible, insightful discourse. These folks don't give a flip about protesting healthcare, they are protesting a black man in the White House.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (August 07, 2009 11:42 am ET)
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      Some on the right are simply disingenuous...but some really don't make the connection between talk radio and Republican nastiness, which should be obvious to anyone with a functioning brain. Why? Blind ideology...Republicans first, Americans second.
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (August 07, 2009 11:59 am ET)
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        Dr. Tiller, the baby killer. 'Nuff said.
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        • Author by gwadsworth (August 07, 2009 12:49 pm ET)
             
          Lets not even bring up partial birth abortion. Something that only 5 doctors in the us will even perform. They guy aborted 10s of thousands of babies for very iffy reasons. Oh btw obama supports 3rd term abortions. Basically a baby can survive outside the womb yet you kill it anyways. yeah thats humane. The whole discussion of when life begins ceases when the child can survive outside the womb. Yet tiller killed thousands of babies in this way. Most were done not for medical reasons but for other reasons. You have to have parental consent to get your ears pierced but you can get a 3rd term baby cut out of you all on your own. Sounds like a fair system huh?
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    • Author by bintx (August 07, 2009 11:44 am ET)
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      I heard this today. Barnicle was right, but Joe had to say it was coming from the left . . . he got an e-mail from me. He's always saying that he represents "middle America." I AM "middle America" and his crud doesn't represent me or anybody I know out here in "middle America." It represents his political club.
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    • Author by princeofwheels (August 07, 2009 11:49 am ET)
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      "You can't just blame it on the Right"...YES WE CAN
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      • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (August 07, 2009 11:56 am ET)
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        Especially since it's true...
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        • Author by gwadsworth (August 07, 2009 12:53 pm ET)
             
          So when acorn busses people in its ok. Or when planned parenthood lobbies for taxpayer funded abortion in a universal healthcare bill thats ok. But when the right asks basic questions like how much will this cost? WHose going to pay for it? Can you read the bill before you sign it? What kind of end of life care will we recieve?, we get called loons. Yeah that makes since. Especially when obama himself said maybe some people need to TAKE SOME PAIN PILLS.
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    • Author by SMTDL (August 07, 2009 12:09 pm ET)
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      TheMedia overall gives teh right a passonsomeof tehbad behavior ..maybe because most of the networks are Republican owned/operated....They don't even focus on anything positive about helthcare reform ..like making it portable or stopping discrimination against peopel with pre-existing conditions!!They simply cover the politics of it and give a format for the opposition to spin and lie.Joe Scarborough is being so disingenuous to imply this violence and disruption is not being ginned up almost solely by the far right.There have already been people murdered becauseof listeningto the far right hate speech.It is time that the adults in office and the media call it what it is!!!
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      • Author by puttforever4682 (August 07, 2009 12:30 pm ET)
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        I agree SMTDL. Covering the horse race predominates media coverage on health insurance coverage. Scarborough and others on the far right mistakenly believe they are in the middle. Maybe because one in four(or five) americans are complete whacko loons fed by right wing reactionary radio.
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      • Author by gwadsworth (August 07, 2009 12:58 pm ET)
           
        are u serious? Wow you are a special kind of liberal huh? SO Soros is a conservative now? KAtie couric and matt lowher are conservative? Phil donahue was conservative? Everyone on Msnbc , nbc, abc and cbs are conservative. Thats priceless. Fox is the only right leaning cable news network. Cnn tries to be moderate but is mostly left leaning. Msnbc doesnt even try to be moderate. They are entirely left leaning. Hey genius did you know the insurance companies already said they would take people with pre existing conditions. If you dont trust them pass a law. You have 60 in the senate and control of the house. WHose stopping you? The republicans cant. You know who is? Your own party. Do some math and use your head. You might need it sometime.
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    • Author by PurpleState (August 07, 2009 12:53 pm ET)
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      You reap what you sow.

      I get a lot of arguments regarding the "we didn't start the fire by ourselves" mantra. Joe ending his thoughts with "you can't just blame it on the right" seems to strike a nerve.

      We can't just blame it on the right, true, but no one is pointing the finger at themselves and saying "My bad". It's time that we get responsibility from both sides and admitting when things have gone bad.
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      • Author by bintx (August 07, 2009 1:09 pm ET)
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        Sorry, but I'm a former Republican voter . . . the hate and vitriol which I've heard for the past 20 years or so on talk radio turned me completely away from them. These people are NOT conservatives, they are highly paid hatemongers who appeal to the lowest common denominator in our society . . . the uneducated, racist, homophobic, sexist haters. As long as the Republican Party embraces these folks, they've lost this conservative Christian voter . . . they aren't conservative and they are ANYTHING but Christian.
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        • Author by MidWestThnkr (August 07, 2009 1:27 pm ET)
             
          Amen!
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        • Author by mikehuck1976 (August 07, 2009 2:00 pm ET)
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          Well said. Exactly correct. I am not a Christian, but I am a recovered Republican. Imagine that - there was a time when people who did not consider themselves Christians would still consider themselves Republicans. It all seems so long ago now.
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    • Author by pasteve (August 07, 2009 1:10 pm ET)
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      I live in MD. We get Baltimore and DC radio stations. In the 18 or so hours I am wake - if I chose to - I could listen to 9 - 12 hours a day of this stuff and still have time to watch 3 hours of it on TV!

      So let me get this straight? Video games turn can kids into killers, Hollywood can turn women into anorexic floozies, and MTV's Jackass can make people jump off roofs, but 15 hours a day of the same regurgitated, repetitive anti-Obama, anti-Democrat rhetoric have no effect whatsoever?
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    • Author by blueline99 (August 07, 2009 1:14 pm ET)
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      I hate to say this and I really wish it wasn't true... but it's gotten worse because the hatred towards President Obama isn't just because of policy or ideology or rhetoric.

      Clinton was a "philandering liberal with shady deals", Bush was "a brain dead civil rights crushing authoritarian", but that was all just rhetoric.

      There is something telling when the "angry mob" is crying that they "want their country back" There is a reason that most of the venom is coming from the South.

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      • Author by foghornleghorn (August 07, 2009 2:06 pm ET)
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        I watched some c-span this morning because a moveon.org rep was on. And most if not all the republican callers were from the south. (One of them said moveon was funded by Soros)
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      • Author by blueline99 (August 07, 2009 2:35 pm ET)
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        I honestly believe that there is a generation of Americans who never got past the Civil Rights Act in 1964.

        Below are the Civil Rights Act votes... realize that most of the southern Democrats (Dixiecrats) that voted against this changed parties (gee I wonder why)

        Being born just after the Civil Rights Act, I grew up hoping that this country would have moved on... but based on the geriatric Town Hall meetings, I think we're a couple generations away from that.

        Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.

        The original House version:

        * Southern Democrats: 7-87 (7%-93%)
        * Southern Republicans: 0-10 (0%-100%)

        * Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%-6%)
        * Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%-15%)

        The Senate version:

        * Southern Democrats: 1-20 (5%-95%) (only Senator Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
        * Southern Republicans: 0-1 (0%-100%) (this was Senator John Tower of Texas)
        * Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%-2%) (only Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia opposed the measure)
        * Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%-16%) (Senators Bourke Hickenlooper of Iowa, Barry Goldwater of Arizona, Edwin L. Mechem of New Mexico, Milward L. Simpson of Wyoming, and Norris H. Cotton of New Hampshire opposed the measure)

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    • Author by John Paradox (August 07, 2009 5:32 pm ET)
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      HEAR OUR VOICE!! HEAR OUR VOICE!!

      Alright, what point would you like to make? What questions do you have about Health Care Reform?

      HEAR OUR VOICE!! HEAR OUR VOICE!!

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      • Author by foghornleghorn (August 07, 2009 5:55 pm ET)
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        We hear you loud and clear. Y'all want your country back from the kenyan-born socialist, marxist, communist, racist, BLACK MAN.
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