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Fox hosts protester who claims of Dem leadership: "Your thugs already know where we live. We've had a visit from them"

August 10, 2009 11:13 am ET

From the August 10 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom:

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Media Matters for America on Betsy McCaughey

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    • Author by HistoricallyCorrect (August 10, 2009 11:17 am ET)
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      Why doesn't he pull up the actual Health Care Bill?

      Who the hell is he talking about? Why don't they say who is coming to his house?

      Megyn Kelly used the word EMPATHY. *insert gasp and faint*
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    • Author by raine315 (August 10, 2009 11:19 am ET)
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      LOL Health care reform supporters lurking around in the darkness of night?? Ok This sounds as crazy as the girl who carved the backwards B in her face
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        • Author by robyn20094113 (August 10, 2009 11:44 am ET)
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          A lot of us have handicap children or grandchildren. It is shame this poor fool has fallen for the rights's propaganda. Quoting Betsy McCaughey, for god sake..wake up... we all know whee she is coming from. Mr. Mike, you are fighting the very thing that would be best for you.

          Pelosi did not call your son un american and BTW, President Obama has said over and over he wants every American to have the same health care coverage, the government provides him, his family and all those in congress.
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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (August 10, 2009 11:59 am ET)
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            Very good points. From my own experiece:

            1) I have Blue Cross / Blue Shield Insurance. Generally speaking that's considered GOOD COVERAGE. Some of the best.

            2) My two sons have autism.

            3) Insurance will not cover ONE PENNY of their treatment - which amounted to just under $30,000 in 2008.

            There are currenlty only 14 states where an autistic childs will have their speech therapy services covered by insurance. And in every case, that is becuase state gov't passed a law MANDATING that coverage. (And no, I don't live in one of those states, but Michigan is getting close.)

            So even when it works, it only works when the gov't force it to!

            WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?!
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            • Author by robyn20094113 (August 10, 2009 12:23 pm ET)
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              Unfortunately Eddie, regardless how great your Health coverage is right now. There are no guarantees that you will have it for ever, that your premiums will not skyrocket, that they may lessen some of that coverage or god for bid may not cover something that may come up in the future. I am happy for you, that you do have better coverage than a lot of families. It would be wonderful, to have the security of knowing, that no matter what the circumstance, you and everyone has health care coverage.

              I do not know what the hell is wrong with people. Why the hell are they not outraged over the millions spent on those worthless F22,s? Why they would rather see their tax dollar going for something like that and not for health care coverage.

              For some reason I can not pull up that web site you listed above..darn.
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              • Author by NiceguyEddie (August 10, 2009 12:46 pm ET)
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                You nailed it. The current system is utterly indefensible six ways 'til Sunday, and yet the very people it screws the most are fighting to keep it.

                Let me try that link again. It's a great read...

                http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_08/019423.php
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                • Author by scubcap647 (August 10, 2009 1:08 pm ET)
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                  That is crazy. I'm almost ashamed to claim St. Louis as my home town after reading about that kind of ignorance. How can a guy champion against something that was designed to benefit people in his exact situation? I guess it just shows how truly uninformed so many people are.
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                • Author by robyn20094113 (August 10, 2009 3:57 pm ET)
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                  Thanks, that did work. He is a con. What an idiot. No health insurance and he is opposed to Health Care Reform. Like you said earlier, "What the hell is wrong with these people?"
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            • Author by cuardai (August 10, 2009 12:56 pm ET)
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              Here is the problem from my point of view, the people who DO support reform are just not loud enough. It's as if they are too afraid to sound off, how is it that the liars can do it and not the ones who speak the truth.

              I currently work between the middle east and Europe, and guess what most of these places has "socialized health care" and though the citizens of these countries will tell you it's not perfect, they will also tell you that they would rather have the imperfect "socialized care" rather then no care at all. And they have the option of going else where to private clinics and such if they don't want it...Why can't we be the same, GIVE US THE CHOICE!
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    • Author by John Paradox (August 10, 2009 11:25 am ET)
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      Ooooh... black helicopters, UFO's, MIB, all centering on this worthless schmuck.

      What a freakin' ego.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (August 10, 2009 11:36 am ET)
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      I feel genuine sorrow for this man, he obviously thinks that what he is doing is the best thing for his family, however, he has bitten into the big lie (repeatedly debunked) floated by Betsy McCaughey and become overwhelmed. What he fails to realize is that by being so loud, and rude, and in the Congressman's face, he prevented other people from gaining information. He seems to have been threatened by someone for his actions, that is plain wrong, but it is very clear he intends to greet any future incidents with deadly force. I have had violent actions carried out by neighbors, and I just called the police, isn't that enough?
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      • Author by rkallen09 (August 10, 2009 11:56 am ET)
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        He seems to have been threatened by someone for his actions, that is plain wrong, but it is very clear he intends to greet any future incidents with deadly force.
        Which makes me fear for census takers, the paper boy, Jehova's Witnesses, and anyone else that darkens his doorstep that he now perceives as a threat.

        He makes no distinction between the illegal actions of an indvidual (the threat he claims he suffered) and a coordinated effort by our government to strike fear into he and his family. To him, they are one and the same. That kind of thinking is inherently dangerous to the safety of the public.

        Sadly, we may not have heard the last of this man, and I sudder to think what the future breaking news about him may be... and the life or lives that entertaining his paranoia, without confronting it, will have cost us.
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        • Author by epkklk851 (August 10, 2009 12:51 pm ET)
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          When I say I feel sorry for him, it is because I think he has driven himself into a tizzy on his own fear; sadly, there are a lot of people out there like him. I am certainly glad that he isn't my neighbor. It would scare me.
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          • Author by rkallen09 (August 10, 2009 1:09 pm ET)
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            I feel sorry for him, too. He deserves our pity. He's as much a victim of this misinformation as anyone else is.
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            • Author by NiceguyEddie (August 10, 2009 1:15 pm ET)
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              Perhaps, but not really.

              When a person loses insurance or is denied coverage, we point to that as examples of why the system is broken and in need of reform. Becuase this idiot is fighting that much needed reform, I say, "He deserves whatever he gets."

              Personally I hope he get's laid off, gets cancer, and the is denied coverage in his next job do to preexisting condition. And I don't have anything against the man himself, but ANY defender of the current HC system deserves no better. In fact they're asking for it - FIGHTING for it.
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              • Author by rkallen09 (August 10, 2009 1:34 pm ET)
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                My grandfather built a bomb shelter in the back yard sometime in the late fifties. Why? Because a door to door bomb shelter salesman came to their home and put the fear of God into he and my grandmother that their town was endanger of nuclear attack by Russians. This was Victoria, Texas by the way... a town that, at that time, was in the middle of no where.

                My father had "special filters" installed on our houses water sytstem to prevent "government added chemicals" like flouride. Why? Because a door to door water purifier salesman told him, "we don't know what the government is doing to our water."

                It makes me laugh, when I think of these two examples. Why? Because, I remember the first time my parents signed on to a health policy that would cover our family by a door to door insurance salesman.
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      • Author by robyn20094113 (August 10, 2009 12:00 pm ET)
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        I think you are way too nice, my friend. I think he was exploiting his handicap kid to push his own Obama hating agenda. I do not believe a word he said. I agree with dmhack and psp below. His story was scattered and the way he fit in the talking points the right wing use. All his snide remarks scratched any sympathy I might of had for him. Besides what kind of father drags his son to a meeting and then behaves like he did, in front of him? Then he blames everyone else for his son being terrified. He terrifies me.
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    • Author by dmhack (August 10, 2009 11:39 am ET)
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      The first impression you get is that a band of thugs went to his house in the middle of the night. But as you listen carefully, the visiting thugs he describes turn suddenly singular and the "visit" is some sort of message.

      So, one guy left a message?---voice mail, letter? Not too sure since the details get real vague real quick.

      But none of that matters---by the end of the day it will be bands of armed liberal thugs roaming the the country and dragging good God-fearing Americans out of their beds in the middle of the night.

      Then, by the end of the week, the MSM will have picked up the theme and start including the lie into their so-called liberal coverage.
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      • Author by jjamele2880 (August 10, 2009 11:44 am ET)
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        This guy probably thinks that when the paperboy accidentally throws his neighbor's paper into his own bushes, he's being assaulted by the liberal media.
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    • Author by Meazy (August 10, 2009 11:43 am ET)
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      I bet he doesn't want the government to touch his medicare either.
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    • Author by psp (August 10, 2009 11:44 am ET)
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      Pelosi/Reid "thugs" threatening this guy and his family in the middle of the night? I almost wish that were true - if only because it would be so brilliantly bizarre to have our government retaliate against this misinformed loudmouth by sending over a goon squad under the cover of darkness to scare his wife. I'm curious as to why those goons wouldn't bother to involve the kid, though. What kind of government hatchet men would forget to torment a sick kid? I mean, we can set up Death Panels for old ladies but can't give a little scare to a cancer patient? Sheesh.

      Also: I love the fact that he has no idea who Steny Hoyer is, he brings up the Nancy Pelosi "private jet" talking point, and seems to be completely unaware that government employees are already on a government health care plan.
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      • Author by jjamele2880 (August 10, 2009 11:46 am ET)
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        It's sad to think that anyone in this country could reach the age of this man and achieve such a low level of literacy or political efficacy. What is he, sixty? And he's on tv bleating paranoid talking points he heard on the radio? Pathetic.
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        • Author by foghornleghorn (August 10, 2009 12:08 pm ET)
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          What is he, sixty?

          That means he's just a few short years away from the evil government run health care program known as medicare.

          These Joe the Plumber types are quite disturbing.
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      • Author by raine315 (August 10, 2009 11:57 am ET)
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        I am curious as to what a Health Care Reform "Thug" looks like. Some women are attracted to bad boys- do they have Health Care Reform spelled out in their mouth -across their gold teeth. Or how about Health Care Reform written on the back of leather jackets and tats on their arms. Do they do Health Care Reform gang signs with hands. LOL Oh this would make a great comedy skit.. Health Care Reform Thugs
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        • Author by robyn20094113 (August 10, 2009 12:31 pm ET)
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          It's hard to tell, they only come out in the dark of night. They do not have the guts to be seen in the day time.
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    • Author by The_Cat (August 10, 2009 11:46 am ET)
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      What is odd to me is that he is for choice in health coverage, but not for Congress. "They are trying to foist off on us a plan they themselves will not take."

      Um, no. I'm sorry your kid is sick. I have kids myself. But health coverage reform is about giving you more choices, not fewer. One of those choices will be run non-profit, which will hopefully bring everybody's costs down.

      Was it someone from the Obama administration who visited you in the dead of night? Let me guess: no ID, no uniform, no idea where they were really from? Probably remnants of Cheney's assassination squad, just running around randomly threatening people. I find this explanation far FAR more likely than that President Obama himself took time out of his busy day to send someone to your home to threaten your family, based solely on the aims the two different administration have pursued.
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      • Author by dmhack (August 10, 2009 12:03 pm ET)
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        I wonder what health insurance plan his son is on? The plan must be run by saints because most plans would have dumped his kid a long time ago. Wouldn't most plans have deemed CP a pre-existing condition?

        Yes, I'd love to find out the name of his insurer although I suspect I already know.

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    • Author by jjamele2880 (August 10, 2009 11:50 am ET)
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      I also like the "concerned father" caption. How about "blithering, clueless idiot who refuses to educate himself on the real issues involved here, and instead just parrots what he heard on Fox News?"
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    • Author by The_Cat (August 10, 2009 11:53 am ET)
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      Addendum:
      http://www.nypost.com/seven/07242009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/deadly_doctors_180941.htm

      Here is the column he was referring to. Written by Betsy McCaughey.

      It is likely, given his 'evidence' that he was just a bit too scared to scratch the backwards 'B' on his cheek as a sign of his real affiliation.
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    • Author by shaggles (August 10, 2009 12:07 pm ET)
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      In the very unlikely event that someone actually did try to intimidate this loser what evidence does he have that the Dem leadership had anything to do with it?
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      • Author by marco21 (August 10, 2009 12:52 pm ET)
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        Obviously none. Great work, Megyn getting to what exactly this mysterious message was all about? I guess a few follow up questions would have run into getting the other talking points out.
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    • Author by HistoricallyCorrect (August 10, 2009 12:11 pm ET)
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      Oh secondly, if you are being threatened which are tactics that are horrible for any side to deploy. But maybe, if you are telling the truth, are being subject to a modicum of what female health care providers who happen to provide LEGAL abortions are faced every god damn day.
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    • Author by magnolialover (August 10, 2009 12:23 pm ET)
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      Yeah, right, I'm sure a group of "thugs" went to your house in the middle of the night.

      Liar liar, pants on fire!
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    • Author by marco21 (August 10, 2009 12:51 pm ET)
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      Wingnuts all day, every day - only on Fox News.
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    • Author by congero6189599 (August 10, 2009 1:14 pm ET)
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      Wow! How low can Fox go? Their obviously exploiting this mans pain, which I believe is fueling HIS insanity. His attacks and rants are based on lies as evidenced by the Post article he suggested we read. Yesterday Newt Gingrich tried to pass on the lie about Rahm's brother and the three articles he's written only to be shot down by none other than normaly passive George Stephenopolus. So this mans anger is based on misinformation and outright lies and Fox pimps him.
      There is another question here also too! Hahaha...couldn't help that! This misinformed guy threatened "by any means" necessary to defend against an unknown enemy. I wish that person or something to that effect, he said,threatenning violence to someone or something . Should a news station be allowing that kind of threat to go out on their airwaves? Hasn't violence taken place and havent some advocated arming themselves and taking care of business? Suppose this guy is psychotic and winds up shooting someone as someone has already said, what is the responsibility of the channel in all this. Shouldn't they have checked out the story more, or made it clear that the views about picking up a weapon and/or taking the law in to your own hands was that of this individual and not that of the station? Infact the station did the opposite they pllayed up the sympathies and rationalized his behavior. How low can FAUX go?
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    • Author by 3132_2 (August 10, 2009 1:19 pm ET)
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      To FOX News' America's Newsroom
      The concerned Father has expressed every American' sentiment concerning Healthcare change in this country. I support his courage to speak out concerning his concern. I totally understand his frustration. When speaking out his concern the congress person tended to express just how it was in his best interests that the health reform plan should be implemented. This total lack of empathy on the part of our representatives is disheartening.

      David J. Mazer
      Yelm, Washington
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