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In special comment, Olbermann slams Beck, Dobbs for stirring up violence

August 10, 2009 10:35 pm ET

From the August 10 edition of MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann:

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    • Author by dave_82 (August 10, 2009 10:50 pm ET)
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      The always passionate Keith. Were on different sides of party lines but respect that he will always rationally put his case forward.

      Keep it up!
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    • Author by Vincenzo (August 10, 2009 10:51 pm ET)
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      It's nice to hear the truth. Sad to say the diehard wingnuts watch this and think conspiracy.
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    • Author by snoopy (August 10, 2009 10:55 pm ET)
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      Speaking of the birthers, I see they offered a rose petal to Obama today. They told him they would drop the birth certificate lunacy if he agreed to abide by the constitution and only serve as president 3/5ths of the time.
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    • Author by Lane (August 10, 2009 10:57 pm ET)
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      Wow.

      There is nothing I can say that can add to that. That was... thorough.

      On a side note though, Keith looks older than usual here. Are those different glasses?
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      • Author by reanna-mator (August 10, 2009 11:03 pm ET)
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        If I had to cover the heath care reform debacle, I'd probably at least FEEL older. Poor guy.

        Anyway, yes-- his comment tonight was impressive.
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      • Author by Bronwyn (August 10, 2009 11:04 pm ET)
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        His show was so good tonight that I listen to it twice. Good job boyfriend.
        I thought he looked tired or that his eyes were swollen. Then your side note.....hope he's not ill.
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        • Author by bintx (August 11, 2009 8:30 am ET)
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          It's the glasses. He needs to ditch them . . . not strong enough for his face.

          As for his comments, all I can add is Amen. I'm SICK of these people inciting violence and hatred with false statements and then, when violence occurs, saying, "Who, me????? I didn't do anything."
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          • Author by Bronwyn (August 11, 2009 9:57 am ET)
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            Olbermann always nails it and in a dignified manner. Why the wing-nuts would rather listen to Hannity, Beck or Rush is mind boggling. There is just no comparisons. They can't even pretend to be intelligent.

            Did you love it when Ben Affleck played Keith on SNL? I thought it was so cute. Olbermann got a kick out of it too.
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      • Author by Ruby (August 10, 2009 11:20 pm ET)
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        Yeah, he usually wears smaller, black frame glasses. I think. I agree, those do make him look older.

        But I still find him very dashing.
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      • Author by puppienrainbows (August 11, 2009 12:44 pm ET)
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        He just got through looking at his ratings. Thus, the look of dejection and lethargy.
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (August 10, 2009 11:17 pm ET)
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      Excellent, he addressed anything on this that comes to mind. Near ten out of ten.
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    • Author by eddiebear2 (August 11, 2009 12:20 am ET)
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      Obama tells union thugs to punch back, and they literally do, and it's the fault of the opposition?

      Good to know.
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      • Author by phredicles (August 11, 2009 1:23 am ET)
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        1) What does "back" in this context mean to you?

        2) You are deliberately misconstruing the president's meaning.

        3) "Union thugs" is a particularly dishonest talking point that has been debunked.
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        • Author by fairliberal (August 11, 2009 1:31 am ET)
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          Union thugs is a perfect description of the SEIU goons. Obama's buddies.
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          • Author by John Paradox (August 11, 2009 2:18 am ET)
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            YOu mean the ones who ride in on Orcs, bearing flaming arrows?
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            • Author by Barry Bonds (August 11, 2009 3:58 am ET)
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              How has the Right so effectively convinced their side that everything good and decent is bad? How could Healthcare reform be Nazism? How could community organizing be wrong? How could being a part of a union be thuggery?
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              • Author by Bronwyn (August 11, 2009 10:09 am ET)
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                How? With lies, distortion, fear, big bucks and grossly over paid mouthpieces on TV and radio.
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          • Author by ROSEBUD (August 11, 2009 3:09 am ET)
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            WHY NOT, THEY ARE ON HIS PAYROLL! YOU'LL BE SEEING ALOT MORE OF THEM AND ACORN. THEY WORK TOGETHER. THAT'S WHAT $2.6 MILLION BUYS YOU OF TAX PAYER MONEY. LOOK,THEY GOT HIM ELECTED!
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            • Author by magnolialover (August 11, 2009 8:50 am ET)
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              Lies, lies, and more lies.

              ACORN has never received federal funding for anything.

              SEIU is a union, yes, but thugs? No. If you look back at Union histories, you'll see the thugs are almost always on the side of big management/big corporations.

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            • Author by jhansen813 (August 11, 2009 10:17 am ET)
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              Ooooooo, all caps, you must REALLY be serious. You know, you can't physically SCREAM through test like the idiots screaming nonsense at the town halls. You're all acting like a bunch of spoiled 10 year olds. Bush is gone, get over it.
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            • Author by vysotsky (August 11, 2009 12:31 pm ET)
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              Rosebud, please, use your indoor voice. And perhaps trying to back up your claims with facts.
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        • Author by Kid Funkadelic (August 11, 2009 1:36 am ET)
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          "Union Thugs".FOX is going to have to stop that dog whistle. People in unions are, police officers, firefighters, teachers, and teamsters.Divide and conquer don't work anymore in America.
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      • Author by ReasonAndResolve (August 11, 2009 2:01 am ET)
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        Obama did not tell the unions anything. You are merely guessing - pure conjecture. There is no proof that he even spoke to the union.
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        • Author by ROSEBUD (August 11, 2009 3:07 am ET)
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          MOST LIKELY IT WAS RAHM EMANUEL WHO CALLED OUT HE DOGS!
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          • Author by The_Cat (August 11, 2009 9:33 am ET)
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            I understand that you wish to be strident and shrill, and you think that yelling is the way to win any conversation, ROSEBUD, but all caps makes you seem even less intelligent than your comments indicate, which is impressive.
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          • Author by jhansen813 (August 11, 2009 10:19 am ET)
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            "WHO CALLED OUT HE DOGS!" Your typing so loud and with such anger you can't even say what you mean. Why don't you and the rest of the republican party take some deep breaths, count to 10, and join the conversation with a sense of maturity. In short, grow up and educate yourself on some facts.
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      • Author by bintx (August 11, 2009 8:33 am ET)
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        Really? Obama told the unions to "punch back"? And your source for this little gem is what?

        BTW, the "opposition," as you called it don't even know what they are opposing. They come up with RIDICULOUS objections which have no basis in fact . . . they don't discuss, they just yell and obstruct civil discourse. They accomplish NOTHING except to make themselves look like ignorant bumpkins.

        In actuality, the real "opposition" these "opposition" groups represent is the fact that there is a black man in the White House and they just cannot STAND that fact.
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        • Author by Bronwyn (August 11, 2009 10:32 am ET)
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          Bintx, I am watching a live meeting, at this time in PA.
          Boy did you nail it.

          A man disrupts the meeting screaming about his right to free speech. When confronted for being disruptive, he wants to leave, then he's not going to leave without delivering the speech he brought, he was waving sheets of paper as if he had a whole lot to say. When Sen Spector became silent, put the mic in front of the man, all the man would do is yell, and throw out insults about Spector and his cronies in WA. That was repeated a lot but no speech and no questions or concern on health care but every insult got a round of applause and cheering. Then he walks out.

          He had the floor and every ones complete attention and said nothing constructive.
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          • Author by magnolialover (August 11, 2009 12:17 pm ET)
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            Surprise, surprise, surprise...

            I just read another story saying that on the sign in sheets kept by some Congressional members, they're getting upwards and over 50% of people attending their meetings that aren't from their district.

            Meaning, they're being organized to come on over, and disrupt things. They're not even being represented by these folks, and they just come on over, and start yelling and screaming.

            I saw Specter's meeting, and he handled it pretty well. He listened, and you're right, the guy had NOTHING to say. No questions, just some BS about God judging Specter and his cronies up on the Hill.

            I'm not sure how God is playing into this.
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            • Author by Bronwyn (August 11, 2009 1:25 pm ET)
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              I think the best thing to do, is give them the floor. They only prove they have nothing beneficial to say. Their only motive is to disrupt and not let legit questions or remarks be made.

              I'm now watching the President live in NH. Earlier they kept showing protesters across the street. There is a man with a big sign and a gun strapped to his leg. It is legal because he is on private property, church property and the church gave him permission to be there. Now what possible constructive message is he trying to give?

              Wow this stuff is addictive........I have to get busy.
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      • Author by Brabantio (August 11, 2009 9:30 am ET)
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        Obama tells union thugs to punch back, and they literally do...


        Messina was talking to lawmakers. It was not a public comment. It was metaphorical.

        Which of those things do you dispute? If none, then how is that "Obama telling union thugs" anything?
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        • Author by puppienrainbows (August 11, 2009 12:42 pm ET)
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          Ah yes, the old 'it was metaphorical' excuse. Works every time. The 'it was not a public comment' line reminds me of the Trent Lott/ Strom Thurmond incident. That, too, was not a public comment and more than likely, metaphorical.
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          • Author by Brabantio (August 11, 2009 3:47 pm ET)
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            As I asked on another thread, is Debbie Stabenow taking kickboxing classes? He was talking to Senators. There's no sensible way to take that as referring to literal punching. The point about it not being a public comment is that it's very difficult to presume that it was some special message to "union thugs" when the person saying it doesn't even know if it's going to be reported or not.

            How the hell do you think that suggesting we'd be better off with segregation is "metaphorical"? Please walk me through your mental process there. And I'm not sure what difference it makes whether that's public or private, since that involves racism. It's not like it's unoffensive as long as it's not in a speech to constituents.
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            • Author by puppienrainbows (August 12, 2009 1:35 pm ET)
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              Trent Lott never used the term segregation and you know it. This is why MMFA exists, is to correct that type of misinformation. You're as bad as the media you so detest! In court, what you just said is called lying.
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              • Author by puppienrainbows (August 12, 2009 1:40 pm ET)
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                And besides that, in a private conversation, I can say anything I want without recrimination as long as it doesn't involve conspiracy or outright threat, neither of which occured in the conversation between Lott and Thurmond. Sounds like you're trying to invoke the thought police, eh Brab?
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                • Author by Brabantio (August 13, 2009 12:58 am ET)
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                  I didn't say the specific word "segregation" was used. What does the word "suggested" mean to you? What else could Lott have been talking about, exactly? That's a clear inference of what he said, and there's no way it would be called "lying" in a court of law. How is this supposed to explain how it's "metaphorical", anyway?

                  And who's talking about recrimination? The outcry over Lott's remarks had nothing to do with any laws being broken. I said "It's not like it's unoffensive...", so I'm clearly saying that the comments were morally unacceptable. I would hope that you disagree with racism as well, but if that's true then the criticism of Lott should be incredibly obvious to you. You would surely not say that criticism of racists is wrong because it's calling out the "thought police".
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      • Author by The_Cat (August 11, 2009 9:41 am ET)
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        eddiebear2:

        Obama did not make this comment. Messina did.

        Obama did not tell this to any union. Messina was speaking to Democratic congressmen who were going home to town halls with astroturfed protests already organized by the other party and insurance lobbyists.

        It was not Democrats who started the uncivil side of this civil discourse.
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    • Author by mescal (August 11, 2009 3:42 am ET)
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      Absolutely on the nose commentary.

      Well done, Keith.
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    • Author by LIBERTY OR DEATH (August 11, 2009 4:18 am ET)
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      There will be no health choices' Commisionner according to Keith

      HR 3200, Page 41
      Subtitle E governance
      SEC. 141 HEALTH CHOICES ADMENSTRATION HEALTH
      CHOICES' COMMISSIONER
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      • Author by vysotsky (August 11, 2009 6:14 am ET)
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        When did Olbermann claim that there wouldn't be a commissioner with that title?

        By the way, it's "Health Choices Commissioner", not "Health Choices' Commissioner". And you know why the proposed commissioner has that title? Because the bill is called "America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009"
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        • Author by bintx (August 11, 2009 8:37 am ET)
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          Don't confuse him, he's got his talking points . . . misspelled, I might add. "Admenstration"??????

          Did you read this section or are you just posting what you picked up on another blog site?

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          • Author by vysotsky (August 11, 2009 11:01 am ET)
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            Misspelled? Huh. I suppose that's possible. I just assumed that "admenstration" was a monthly governmental cycle and "commisionner" was a fine cognac.
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    • Author by rdirkse (August 11, 2009 6:35 am ET)
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      Great as always
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    • Author by rtdavis11200 (August 11, 2009 7:22 am ET)
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      Well done Keith!
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    • Author by kydem09 (August 11, 2009 8:50 am ET)
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      Give me a break! This is coming from the guy who stirred such hatred and vitriol against the previous president over the past few years?????
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      • Author by NG_Officer (August 11, 2009 9:27 am ET)
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        please enlighten us with facts...
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        • Author by Brabantio (August 11, 2009 9:39 am ET)
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          I'm sure he can come up with examples of Olbermann speaking out against Bush. What he's going to have trouble doing is showing where Olbermann "stirred" anything like Beck and Dobbs are doing. Calling Bush out on his actions is not even remotely the same as engaging in assassination fantasies, birther conspiracy theories, or bizarre discussions about "death panels".
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          • Author by kydem09 (August 11, 2009 11:54 am ET)
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            I don't think "death panel" discussions are that bizarre, although I think the discussions would have more credence if people would call them something else. In Oregon, a woman on the state's health care plan who had lung cancer was denied a cancer drug because the state said it was too expensive. However, the state, in all it's compassionate glory, said they would approve physician assisted suicide because it was cheaper!!! This is the type of thing people are afraid of. And if you can't understand why people might be concerned, then God help you.
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            • Author by magnolialover (August 11, 2009 12:19 pm ET)
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              And what you can't understand is that there is nothing like this in the bill being proposed now.

              Anyway, insurance companies do the same thing, and probably more of it, every single day.
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      • Author by The_Cat (August 11, 2009 9:38 am ET)
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        kydem09, I think you are referring to Olbermann's practice of pointing out that our previous President lied about WMDs? Or, about not torturing anyone? Or, about not wiretapping the entire nation? Or, about how he bungled Katrina?

        There was a great deal of outrage over President Bush's appointment to the highest office in the land, especially after we found out all the truly awful things he did, or that were done in his name.

        This President, however, is getting hatred and vitriol and the health coverage reform bill hasn't even passed yet! People like you are projecting the consequences of the bill into the future, imagining the outrage they will feel at what they dream may possibly occur, then bringing all that anger back to the present moment.

        There is no parallel, kydem09. Your argument is an epic fail.
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      • Author by HistoricallyCorrect (August 11, 2009 10:15 am ET)
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        When did Keith Olbermann "joke" about poisoning the Speaker of the House? He called Bush on his bad policies, and Cheney too. I don't remember seeing anything that even compares to the threats coming from Fox and Friends.
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      • Author by jhansen813 (August 11, 2009 10:22 am ET)
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        You mean the president that got thousands of our troops KILLED while looking for weapons of mass destruction. He actually LIED. He should have been run out of town on a RAIL. Don't you DARE try to compare Bush to Obama! Bush was the biggest embarrassment to this country since President James Buchanan!
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        • Author by Bronwyn (August 11, 2009 10:52 am ET)
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          Besides our troops, all the lives of innocent civilians of a sovereign nation, and all those left maimed, orphaned and homeless. All based on lies.
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      • Author by bintx (August 11, 2009 10:57 am ET)
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        Nope, Olbermann simply stated documented facts . . . facts which have been brought to the light of day since Mr. Bush left office. That's not stirring hatred, it is called JOURNALISM which is something that Fox viewers never see. Olbermann states opinion, but when that opinion is stated, it is STATED as opinion, not news.

        Do I agree with Olbermann always? Nope.
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        • Author by epkklk851 (August 11, 2009 12:13 pm ET)
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          And do I fact check when he says something that is particularly damning, as best as I am able. That is why I like Keith, his opinions are not knee-jerk, they are based on facts.
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          • Author by kydem09 (August 11, 2009 1:37 pm ET)
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            They are based on opinion. Sorry, but I immediately distrust anyone who can't host a guest with an opposing point of view.
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        • Author by kydem09 (August 11, 2009 1:36 pm ET)
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          Olbermann is NOT a journalist! Of course, real journalism has gone by the wayside in recent years, so it doesn't surprise me that the disgusting extreme left wing slant he puts on all of his stories would qualify as journalism in your book. And don't tell me he didn't stir hatred. He most certainly did. You just didn't see it that way since you were like-minded.
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    • Author by rtdavis11200 (August 11, 2009 9:02 am ET)
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      Beck and the many on the right wing hate too see their beliefs about African-Americans being lazy,stupid and inferior to whites being dispelled on a daily basis.

      The election of Barrack Obama as President of the United States is a nightmare come true for people like Beck,Dobbs and many other haters.

      A successful turnaround of this country led by Obama and his adminstration would be the final death nail in the coffin of these right wing extremist.

      Many American golf lovers thought the game of golf was to difficult for any non-white Americans to understand and play.
      They felt the same way about baseball,basketball and football.

      Woods, Aarron, Mays,Jordan and Brown are few individuals who proved the people with those beliefs wrong.

      Changing the opinion of others who do not look like you is very hard and difficult.

      However when achieved America becomes a better place for all to live.

      Obama will succeed.

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      • Author by Bronwyn (August 11, 2009 10:45 am ET)
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        Beautiful, let me shout that since that seems to be what they appreciate.

        BEAUTIFUL
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    • Author by BBake72 (August 11, 2009 9:29 am ET)
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      I agree. The problem is the people that listen to these lies are not tuning into Keith's show or looking at this website. So Keith's comments is in essence "preaching to the chior".
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    • Author by Max Credits (August 11, 2009 10:32 am ET)
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      Spot on. I'm really looking forward to today's clips of Beck pointing at his viewers and yelling at them what to think about this...
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    • Author by toombsie (August 11, 2009 10:06 pm ET)
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      Great Special Comment - Keith seems to be the only one in the media who is exposing the townhall disruptors as the phonies they really are. The vast majority of them are pawns of the GOP or the health industry, or as Keith pointed out, impostors that act like the every day man or woman but are in fact directly linked to the insurance industry. If the media was really doing its job we'd have an article every day in every newspaper exposing the latest impostor to cause a disruption. Instead the media just legitimizes these people and presents the case that they are actual non-partisan or everyday republican citizens that just want their voice heard. Total joke. If health reform fails, blame the media. They cut off the facts from the general public.
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    • Author by rtdavis11200 (August 12, 2009 2:36 pm ET)
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      Keith hit this comment out the park!

      People who do not want Obama to be their President should be more upset at George Bush for not doing a better job of handling their concerns the last eight years.

      I would advise them to read the book entitled The Three Trillion Dollar War.

      Bush never paid a dime to fight the war in Iraq. It cost the American taxpayer 10 billion dollars a month. Obama was against that war.

      These protesters should head to Crawford and demand answers.

      Give some respect to the new leaders who are trying to clean up the mess that George left behind.
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