Maddow debunks McCaughey on end-of-life care falsehood: "That is not true at all. Not a word of it"
August 11, 2009 10:24 pm ET
From the August 11 edition of MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show:
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Start calling lies lies, MMfA. Especially when it is obvious that McCaughey knows she is lying.
Rachel is doing a fantastic job...
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Still, I agree that MMFA's editing of this clip could have been much better. If you watch the full segment from which this clip was excerpted, you'll see that the piece begins with Obama at the recent Town Hall meeting describing the actual roots of the rumor about mandatory 'death panels'. But I'll concede that this isn't so much a thorough debunking as it is a refutation... but it has the virtue of being a factual refutation.
Even in this clip, though, Maddow refers to previous editions of her show in which she explained why the 'death panel' rumor is untrue. I do wish MMFA had made mention of or linked to those previous segments, because they actually are examples of debunking. But since they didn't:
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But I guess it's easier to throw stones and get force fed by the right wing crackpots.
Sure sounds like you are throwing stones at her for not explaining what "it" is.
If "it's" not true, "it's" not true, that's all there is to it. Sort of like if you told me the sun is shinning, but its raining. Isn't it good enough for me to just say the sun is shining, is not true?
Since almost all of the right wing crackpot rants about health care have absolutely no basis in fact, just how was Maddow supposed to tell what it really is.
It's was a lie, it is a lie, and will always be a lie, and no explanation needed to accompany it.
Later there were rumors that there will be mandatory euthenasia.
Now somehow they have become "death panels" that decide who lives and dies."
So which conservative BS liar do you believe? Cons can't even keep their propaganda to match.
Do you honestly believe that the bill, which hasn't even been signed into law, which Obama himself says needs more work before he'll sign it, actually contains language that in any way mandates euthanasia discussions? I mean really?
Do you really not see how out of the mainstream you are on this?
She does not dehumanize or vilify her opponents. Limbaugh routinely employs eliminationist language. And don't bother coming back with that smarmy, "prove it," crap. If you can't tell the difference between Maddow and Limbaugh, you won't be able to comprehend that when Limbaugh says, "They're going to get rid of your old clunker grandparents," that he is painting liberals as murderers.
I'm so sick of people demanding to prove that something ISN'T. Try proving that it IS for a change.
Yet another conservative so-n-so who doesn't understand even the most basic scientific and legal concepts: the burden of proof.
Here's the deal, analsurfr: If YOU SAY IT'S THERE, SHOW ME.
When one person says something exsist and one person says it doesn't, the burden of proof is on the perosn who claims it DOES. You can't prove it doesn't, so the only reaosnable copurse of action is to ASSUME it doesn't until you have evindecne that it DOES.
Thus, the onus is on YOU to prove that the "death panels" are there. Not on us to prove they're not.
So why don't you stop being an idiot, and go to a CONSERVATIVE website and ask THEM to prove their claims to you. That at least follows the basic scientific path of CRITICAL THINKING... a piece of wisdom that all you conservatives seem to lack.
Why not look up the bill y'dang self?
Maddow only gets one hour (compared to Scarborough's three). She doesn't have time to explain to you exactly why there's no invisible pink unicorn standing next to you. "It's not there" is perfectly sufficient.