Scarborough describes Beck's rhetoric as "stupid" and "ill advised"; later adds: "Shut the hell up"
August 12, 2009 9:13 am ET
From the August 12 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:
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Rush is not that mighty. If the Republicans think they they are going to lose again in 2010 and 2012 they will abandon him. They can only depend on the base for so much.
Perhaps this is wrong, but Glenn Beck is being touted as the poster boy for all that is wrong with right wing media by some Republicans and Conservatives. But, I think Limbaugh, Hannity etc. are next on the list.
It won't be a crescendo, but it will reach the people who want to hear that their Party hasn't gone totally off the rails.
The republicans have put themselves in the perfect trap. They CAN'T win without thier base, and they can't appease their base without further alienating moderatres.
They started believing their own b*llsh!t and went and lost all sense of balance.
Without some seriuous fundamental changes, the party and their movement is doomed. And let's face it: Conservatives don't CHANGE all that easily.
This doesn't mean Obama can't get what he wants, it just means that he has to depend on the Congressional Democratic leadership to do the arm twisting and enforce party discipline.
Well done, Joe.
And his mocking Bill Clinton was BS as usual.
And the result would be health care?
Given the state that Joe and his conserviative ilk left this country in, I think we have good reason to be angry.
When I think of the lousy policies they've pushed, and the lies told by the media to support them (and the biggest lie of all - that the media is inherently liberal) I get positively INFURIATED!
So if he wants to call us "angry?" Go right ahead. Eight years of utter policy stupidity, followed by eight months of media propaganda trying to return us to it, really OUGHT to p!ss you off a little! :)
Turns out it's a big difference. While trying to make the Republican Party look good, Fox News will ignore scandals, mislabel Republicans facing scandal as Democrats, and won't say if a particular strategy is bad for the party unless it's completely out there. They will willingly embrace talking points and even base entire shows around the lies, falsehoods, and misconceptions from the GOP.
While Joe often toes the party line (torture, anybody?), he's more willing to call out people from the GOP. He debunks (some) lies, talks about strategies that will backfire on the conservatives, and is often critical of the GOP. He speaks truth to power at times, though for a different reason than Olbermann or Maddow.
I have no disillusions about Scarborough. But I will watch him, which is a far cry from anything on Fox News (except for maybe Shepard Smith). That's because at least when Joe is shilling for the GOP, he's honest about his ideology and lays everything else out on the table.
In other words, I have a love/hate relationship with Joe Scarborough.