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On Fox & Friends, McCaughey advances falsehood that House bill would force people into "government designed plan"

August 12, 2009 9:18 am ET

From the August 12 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

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    • Author by Bad News (August 12, 2009 9:24 am ET)
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      That's right Gretchen, Let that crazy women spew her lies Unabated.
      Ms. Carlson will you ever figure out why you are so Hated?
      Keep wearing the "Shortest Possible Skirts" to justfy your Position.
      You are a true "Fox News Loyalist" in that old Right-Wing Tradition.

      Speak truth to power.


      Mr. News
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      • Author by WhatImlost (August 12, 2009 4:09 pm ET)
           
        Wait why are you attacking Gretchen Carlson? She's not even in the clip


        Dont get me wrong I agree what you said about her role at Fox, I just dont see any reason to attack her if she isnt in that particular clip
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    • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (August 12, 2009 9:27 am ET)
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      Betsy McCaughey is a proven professional liar, and any outlet which brings her on instantly loses all credibility in this discussion and any other...
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    • Author by Americaville (August 12, 2009 9:29 am ET)
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      Why did she not read that page to us all. Again the media fails to go in depth. She could be holding a piece of print from any article online. The heading on page 16 says SEC. 102. PROTECTING THE CHOICE TO KEEP CURRENT COVERAGE.
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      • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (August 12, 2009 10:00 am ET)
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        So who says there has to be print on it? Joe McCarthy got great mileage out of entirely blank sheets of paper...
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      • Author by Vincenzo (August 12, 2009 11:01 am ET)
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        Media? Fox? Don't think so. Closer to a sitcom with an audience of maniacs.
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    • Author by RKAllen (August 12, 2009 9:32 am ET)
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      OoooooH NOT page 16! Anything but page 16!
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      • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (August 12, 2009 9:36 am ET)
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        To quote an earlier troll:

        "IT'S IN THE BILL! IT'S INDISPUTABLE!!!!!"

        Say, where did that squirrel nut go anyway?...
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        • Author by RKAllen (August 12, 2009 9:43 am ET)
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          you can almost hear it become a coloquialism...

          Hey dude, wassup!?

          Not much. Boss just switched us over to the government Health Care Option.

          Whoa!!!! You got Page 16ed?!?!
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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (August 12, 2009 10:18 am ET)
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          Say, where did that squirrel nut go anyway?..
          Squirrel nut? Isn't that another word for ACORN?

          IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY! AIIIEEEEE!
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          • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (August 12, 2009 10:41 am ET)
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            You asked for it, erw:

            "ACORN'S COMING!!!!! WE'RE ALL GONNA DDDDDDDDDIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (August 12, 2009 9:42 am ET)
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      "force people into a government designed plan"

      Well... as long as it's designed by the Democrats and Liberals with the intention of giving me the best possible care, as opposed to those cheapskate COnservatives and Republicans who only want to save cost... FORCE ME IN.

      The design of the current system that I'm FORCED into (and yes, I am FORCED - when you have no feasible alternatives that's being FORCED) sucks. My out of pocket expenses are large, my kids autsim treatment isn't covered at all, and I can be dropped any time, or end up paying five times as much if I lose my job. (A real possibility in the Auto industry.)

      So please: Tell me about this ""government designed plan." Because form what I hear, the "design" is a hellova lit better than the one I'm currently being "forced" to "accept."
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    • Author by smarshall1432997 (August 12, 2009 9:44 am ET)
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      These Republicans speaking out "against" the HealthCare Reform Bill, what a big surprise, huh? Americans are "shocked". LOL

      Republicans are "angry", "mad", and "fearful" at these TownHall Meetings and MSM did "NOT" see this coming? Uh, oh. Of course these Republicans are "angry", "mad", and "fearful" but it was brought on by their "OWN" Republican Politicians, FoxNews Channel, and Right-winged Radio Hosts while President Obama and the Democrats worked hard in "fixing" America's problems. Hmmm. LOL.
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    • Author by princeofwheels (August 12, 2009 9:53 am ET)
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      Which Page 16? Is this the Page 16 next to Area 51?

      Blondie, go talk to McCaskill. She'll explain to you that you are NOT holding THE actual bill. Sen. Mac made the screamers look foolish when they questioned her about abortion in the bill. She said it wasn't in the bill. They screamed, "it is right here, you are lying", suprise, suprise when she explained that she only read and can only vote on the Senate bill and this is a House bill....
      And to quote Howie Cosell..."Down goes the Screamers, Down goes the Screamers". Apaarently, one of the handlers was too stupid to inform the big mouths.
      Blondie, here is a hint. Look around at the younger blonde babes at Fox..you do not have a prayer of getting a job. Even the casting couch booking agent would turn you away. (I didn't say that. It is rude and crude, sort of like Blondie but with more honesty.)
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      • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (August 12, 2009 10:17 am ET)
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        Ah, to hear the early morning mating call of the Red-Crested Yellow-Backed Southeastern Thumbs-Down Troll! A sure sign of a sunny say...
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      • Author by tman418 (August 13, 2009 4:46 pm ET)
           
        Do these screamers realize there are 5 different bills in Congress.
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    • Author by blueline99 (August 12, 2009 10:15 am ET)
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      This woman is the inspiration for Palin's "Death Panel" talk, which she's even backing off of. How does this woman have any credibility? Only Fox would put her on the air to profer more lies.

      Page 16 simply defines what "Grandfather" insurers are, basically defining those who have insurance prior to the enactment of the bill.

      If you continue to read past page 16, there is nothing about what this crazy person says. This is so irritating... she should be called upon her lies!

      Here is Page 16 of HR3200


      1 SEC. 102. PROTECTING THE CHOICE TO KEEP CURRENT
      2 COVERAGE.
      3 (a) GRANDFATHERED HEALTH INSURANCE COV4
      ERAGE DEFINED.—Subject to the succeeding provisions of
      5 this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable cov
      6 erage under this division, the term ‘‘grandfathered health
      7 insurance coverage’’ means individual health insurance
      8 coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the
      9 first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met:
      10 (1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT.—
      11 (A) IN GENERAL.—Except as provided in
      12 this paragraph, the individual health insurance
      13 issuer offering such coverage does not enroll
      14 any individual in such coverage if the first ef
      15 fective date of coverage is on or after the first
      16 day of Y1.
      17 (B) DEPENDENT COVERAGE PER
      18 MITTED.—Subparagraph (A) shall not affect
      19 the subsequent enrollment of a dependent of an
      20 individual who is covered as of such first day.
      21 (2) LIMITATION ON CHANGES IN TERMS OR
      22 CONDITIONS.—Subject to paragraph (3) and except
      23 as required by law, the issuer does not change any
      24 of its terms or conditions, including benefits and
      25 cost-sharing, from those in effect as of the day be
      26 fore the first day of Y1.
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      • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (August 12, 2009 10:18 am ET)
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        BL, she is regularly called out on her lies, but the media just keeps booking her...
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      • Author by epkklk851 (August 12, 2009 10:28 am ET)
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        You posted this while I was searching, thanks. It was so easy to find, wasn't it.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (August 12, 2009 10:27 am ET)
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      I went to the House Site and was able to find the actual bill. Here is the website;

      http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.txt.pdf

      Here is the title of page 16: "PROTECTING THE CHOICE TO KEEP CURRENT COVERAGE." And it goes on to define and describe the protections available for current policy holders. These things are a matter of public record. It only took a few minutes to find the bill. The House website is pretty user friendly, never let a Conservative or anyone else try and pull that kind of garbage when you can look for it yourself. If you have never been to the House website, just google the U.S. House of Representatives. There is all sorts of information available to you. I found out when my Congressman was holding his town hall by searching by Zip Code! Liars only lie when they know they aren't going to be caught. Catch them with their pants down, it is remarkably easy sometimes.

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      • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (August 12, 2009 10:43 am ET)
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        But...you don't understand! That's not the real Page 16! She's talking about the real Page 16 which you can only get when you right-click the White House Snitch Website while standing on your head and repeating "I love Betsey McCaughey"...
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        • Author by epkklk851 (August 12, 2009 11:19 am ET)
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          While rubbing your lucky rabbit's foot that was the left hind foot of a rabbit cut off under a full moon! I know, wingnuts are impossible to convince with the simple truth.
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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (August 12, 2009 11:59 am ET)
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          That's not the real Page 16!
          The real Page 16 was Congressman Foley's favorite.
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    • Author by Vincenzo (August 12, 2009 11:00 am ET)
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      I see the mummified remains of Ms. McCaughey have shown up on Fox again. She should get some make-up tips from Gretchen. Get that whole deer in headlights look going.
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    • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (August 12, 2009 12:01 pm ET)
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      The Right likes to make fun of peoples' looks. It's too bad that McCaughey, at such a young age, already looks like Joan Rivers at 80.
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