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Brewer debunks Pelosi smears: "If you are stopping someone else from their ability to exchange ideas...isn't that un-American?"

August 12, 2009 3:41 pm ET

From the August 12th edition of MSNBC Live:

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    • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (August 12, 2009 3:45 pm ET)
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      I'm surprised that Contessa "Color Me Republican" Brewer had a moment of lucidity. I'm sure it won't last, though...
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      • Author by NewBee (August 12, 2009 3:55 pm ET)
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        What makes you think she's a Republican? She's had a few articles on here, but the showed her standing up to the right-wing talking heads.
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        • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (August 12, 2009 4:03 pm ET)
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          NewBee, I've seen too much of her act to think that she'll keep holding conservative feet to the fire; she has a record of occasionally sniping a conservative, then spending a couple weeks mollycoddling them. Give me Tamron Hall or David Shuster any day; they're much more consistent...
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      • Author by harley (August 12, 2009 4:09 pm ET)
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        I would label Brewer as 'anti-idiocy' and she does so against both sides of the aisle.
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    • Author by harley (August 12, 2009 3:48 pm ET)
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      Set a stopwatch for when Limbaugh will refer to her as a "info babe".
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    • Author by blueline99 (August 12, 2009 3:51 pm ET)
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      Wow.. Doug Heye sure had his talking points... everytime Brewer tried to get him back to the question she asked, he kept repeating the same thing, completely ignoring her question.

      I love the fact she kept trying to get him to answer the question and he never did answer the question.

      What's the point to have these guys on really? They have no interest in the discussion that they are brought on for. They just want to use the airwaves to repeat their talking points.

      Sigh... even when MSNBC tries to do the right thing the debate gets sidetracked
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    • Author by captfoster2 (August 12, 2009 3:54 pm ET)
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      Gotta love these right-wing dunderheads that show up at these town hall meetings or guest appear on the various media shows and either ignore the obvious or simply claim that their Americanism is bigger and better than those other people's Americanism!

      Only fools, idiots, and morons can consider shouting down others as okay... yet call those of us calling them out on their un-American ways as being un-American.

      The illogical 'logic' of the right never ceases to entertain
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      • Author by snoopy (August 12, 2009 6:25 pm ET)
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        Did you read today about a 2nd protester at Obama's town hall was arrested for carrying an unlicensed loaded gun into the auditorium?
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    • Author by rtdavis11200 (August 12, 2009 3:56 pm ET)
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      It is very Un-American to have a party that was voted out of office still trying to call the shots and not giving our elected leaders respect and a chance to lead.

      They should head to Texas and take their anger out on George Bush.

      He is the person who signed off on the 3 trillion dollar war with Iraq. That war cost 10 billion dollars a month and Bush never raised revenue to fight it.

      Be mad at him not Obama.
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      • Author by EZ4you2say (August 12, 2009 4:29 pm ET)
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        I think you guys need a civics lesson. It wasn't up to Bush. Congress spends the money. Congress gave him the OK to send troops there. If Bush is as stupid as you all make him out to be, how did he accomplish this?
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        • Author by nerzog (August 12, 2009 6:59 pm ET)
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          Darth Cheney told him what to do. You don't think he really made any big decisions, do you?

          As for the civics lesson, you have a point... the Republican Rubber Stamp Congress sucked, too.

          And, to be fair, there were a lot of cowardly Democrats in Congress who let the Troglodytes steamroll them.
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        • Author by worrierking (August 12, 2009 7:00 pm ET)
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          You're forgetting who had the majority in both houses of congress when Bush decided we had no other option that to start a war.

          So the answer to your question is that he wanted war. He convinced his party to allow him to wage it and then had the media act as a cheerleader for the war. He, his party and the media went to work by painting anyone who disagreed with his war as cowards and traitors.

          Simplification is for simple minded people. Anyone who can spout the nonsense you just spouted has to be one.
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        • Author by wolf kotenberg (August 12, 2009 7:06 pm ET)
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          fear mongering accomplished that feat the mushroom cloud thing condoleeza Rica was peddling. And the WMD threatining our troops driving on the desert towards Baghdad. Gen Colin Powell speaking made up stuff at the UN. It was not one single thing but a series of events, including having to make the difficult choice of do you support the president or not. The only fact in that whole episode is that 19 guys commandeered four airplanes and three of them crashed into buildings, and resulting investigation pointed to Afghanistan, borne out by the fact that Bin laden escaped the bombing at Tora Bora.
          " It wasn't up to Bush " does not fly here. he is the leader, the chief executive of the land and the president, by constitutional law, is responsible for decisions involving foreign affairs. With the help of friends and persuation, I can make you believe things you would not normally entertain believing..
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        • Author by bintx (August 13, 2009 9:15 am ET)
             
          Yes, it was up to Congress to spend the money; however, for 6 of the 8 years that Bush was president, he had a rubber stamp Congress which gave him ANYTHING he wanted. He did not veto ONE bill until 2007 when the Democrats got their very, very slight majority in the Senate. The Republicans in Congress, who had allowed Mr. Bush to spend money like a drunken sailor, set a new record in the number of bills which were filibustered, or as they liked to say when they were doing it, "blocked." Apparently, filibusters are only filibusters when they are done by Democrats.

          I found it rather ironic that, during the 2008 election, there was hand-wringing over having "one party government." That's essentially what we had for the entire 8 years of the Bush Administration. The difference? The Democratic Party doesn't walk in lock-step as is evidenced by the Blue Dogs holding up health care reform.
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    • Author by Indy (August 12, 2009 4:52 pm ET)
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      Wow did she forget that during the next break there was going to be another ad for a prescription drug. Who do you think pays the bill around there lady?
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    • Author by The_Cat (August 12, 2009 4:59 pm ET)
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      "Remember four years ago: you can't call anybody un-American." That's right. Four years ago they were called "enemy combatants."
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (August 12, 2009 5:16 pm ET)
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      Absolutely. How do you think Thomas Jefferson and his band of merry men ( ? ) wrote the Constitution ? It wasn't overnight.
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    • Author by nkurland (August 12, 2009 10:06 pm ET)
         
      Brewer is dead on this segment, as was Pelosi in her original statement. Last night I watched 30 minutes of Sen Ben Cardin's townhall, and quite frankly, the protesters simply aren't familiar with what's being proposed as their comments ranged from fears of "a trillion dollars in fraud a year" to Senators "not reading the bill," the latter being impossible at this stage. For about every response the Senator gave, the moderator would have to interrupt at least twice with "let Senator Cardin finish his remarks" to quell an ever noisy chorus of protesters.

      The reforms in question are cruel jokes on the American people, but the only purpose the protesters serve is to obfuscate the debate and implant in people an idea that Obama is simply too far "out there."
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