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Like CBS, NBC's Nightly News reports on "the need for affordable health care in this country"

August 13, 2009 8:07 pm ET

From the August 13 broadcast of NBC's Nightly News with Brian Williams:

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CBS Evening News opens with report on "why many believe [health care] reform is desperately needed"

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    • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (August 13, 2009 8:30 pm ET)
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      I suppose this is a bold stance for the MSM, to actually acknowledge something as obvious as this.

      I was channel surfing a little last night, trying to see which network news stations were saying anything about health care reform aside from reporting on polls showing that large numbers of Americans are misinformed.

      What really bugs me, knowing that so many people get their news from TV, is that even outlets that brought up the possibility of anti-reform propaganda seemed afraid to confront it. A common narrative is that "health care reform proponents are accusing opponents of putting out propaganda."

      It's not an accusation. It's not a theory, or a suspicion. It's well documented, and the media treating the truth and bullsh!t as two sides of the coin is pretty infuriating.
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      • Author by TheThief672 (August 13, 2009 8:58 pm ET)
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        Your comment is right on point. The MSM spends much time on inconsequential points that it dismisses the valid points Americans need to be aware of. But then again.....who in the MSM is really any type of investigative/informed reporter?
        (btw..what idiot gave you a thumbs down?)
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      • Author by fawltylogic (August 13, 2009 11:34 pm ET)
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        Exactly. The media reports EVERYTHING as "he said/she said" type situations, even when something is CLEARLY wrong. They are so deathly afraid of being perceived to be "liberal" that they let any right-wing lie pass. It's despicable and I honestly and truly hope that the entire business of TV "news" goes down. It would be the absolute best thing that could happen to political discourse in this country.
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    • Author by QueenAlli (August 13, 2009 8:47 pm ET)
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      What took so long???

      Look, I don't expect the media to always paint Obama in a positive light but they should always put their viewers first. So if these guys know how desperately health care reform is needed, they should say so and then go point by point about what will help and what won't.
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    • Author by rtdavis11200 (August 13, 2009 9:02 pm ET)
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      Great Job N.B.C.!
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    • Author by dave (August 13, 2009 9:34 pm ET)
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      I love the line "free healthcare is the only healthcare they can afford". Afford? as in they are somehow paying for even a fraction of it? Its not free. Somebody is paying for it. At least add a co pay to this mess, already. Things that are "free" for some have a tendency to get abused.
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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (August 13, 2009 9:46 pm ET)
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        I know, Dave. Ever since they socialized the fire dept., my neighbors have been setting their houses on fire on an almost daily basis.
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        • Author by jjamele2880 (August 13, 2009 10:13 pm ET)
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          Well said. I know for a fact that right now, tumbleweeds are rolling through the streets of every Canadian city because the entire population is in some doctor's waiting room, eagerly awaiting totally unnecessary health care.

          Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go out and set off a few burglar alarms, because I love it when the Socialized police force shows up to investigate. Then I think I'll look into having a few kids so I can take advantage of the Socialized Public education system.
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          • Author by rkallen09 (August 13, 2009 10:27 pm ET)
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            Don't forget to drop by the libraries and scoop up a butt load of those free books they keep giving away.
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          • Author by dave (August 13, 2009 10:29 pm ET)
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            You just go pull those alarms. The police were not part of this bill, either. This is about healthcare.
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        • Author by dave (August 13, 2009 10:19 pm ET)
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          Is the fire dept part of this plan? If it is, I haven't heard of it.
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          • Author by dave (August 13, 2009 10:31 pm ET)
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            And before you say it, the military is not part of this nonsense, either. Did I cover everything?
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            • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (August 13, 2009 10:40 pm ET)
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              And btw, genius, the government runs the military (but oh, I thought the government couldn't run anything well!), which does indeed make it socialst too. As opposed to, say, the time of the Thirty Years' War, in which monarchs bought private armies with their own revenue. Care to try that system again?...
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              • Author by dave (August 13, 2009 11:03 pm ET)
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                Can you explain, genius, why I have to pay for my neighbors healthcare? I didn't get the left's leap from military to healthcare. Military is bound by law to defend the country....healthcare? Not there yet. If the military is there to protect all of us from harm, healthcare is there to protect us all from my neighbor's kid getting a broken leg? How does that affect me....It doesn't.
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                • Author by fawltylogic (August 13, 2009 11:36 pm ET)
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                  How does it affect you if a village of 500 in North Dakota would be wiped out by terrorists? It doesn't. So why should you pay for the military?
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                • Author by National_Insecurity (August 14, 2009 12:55 am ET)
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                  So exactly what is our $700 billion a year for national security protecting if 125 million Americans citizens have chronic illnesses, but 20% of them get no healthcare?

                  What are the protecting with 25% of male military recruits, and 40% of female, can't pass an induction physical, thereby washing them out?

                  What are we spending $700 billion on if 60% of Americans are overweight and our life expectancy is trailing other nations?

                  Why not cut $100 billion of that military spending and put it toward Health Security for all Americans?

                  Or we could continue paying $700 billion for military while Americans get further and further behind. Draw the line and we get to go broke because of our poor health, and we can no longer pay for our military either.
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                  • Author by dave (August 14, 2009 1:03 pm ET)
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                    I don't know what you are trying to say, but if you want to cut spending on military, I'm all for it...and education, and NASA, and just about everything. I want lower taxes and the only way to do that is to cut spending. I don't think this is the administration to do it, based on the spending so far.
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                    • Author by robyn20094113 (August 16, 2009 1:44 pm ET)
                         
                      Boy Wonder, I don't hear you complain about the $777 billion the government gives the insurance companies every ten years, that's approximately 18 billion dollars a year free and clear to the greedy insurance companies, that are already making an obscene profit. That money is to subsidize Medicare which they do not. It doesn't bother you that your tax dollars is supporting the corrupt insurance system, but you darn sure do not want your tax dollars to help the American citizens get health care.

                      Judging by your posts I find it hard to believe you make over $250,000 a year. If you don't your taxes will not be increased anyway.
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                • Author by foghornleghorn (August 14, 2009 9:58 am ET)
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                  Can you explain, genius, why I have to pay for my neighbors healthcare?

                  Yet another person who is ignorant to the fact that we are paying for our neighbors' healthcare NOW. The problem is we're subsidizing the insane insurance company profits and CEO salaries.

                  I've got a few bumper stickers left.

                  PROFITS OVER PEOPLE
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                  • Author by dave (August 14, 2009 1:23 pm ET)
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                    I'm aware of that fact. I pay for other people's healthcare. And why should I? I don't mind any private company turning a profit, that's why they are in business. What I don't like is paying for services that don't benefit me directly. Police, fire, military, garbage pick up, I benefit from. Helthcare for my neighbor? Should I pick up his cable bill, too?
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                    • Author by rkallen09 (August 14, 2009 1:51 pm ET)
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                      I pay for other people's healthcare. And why should I?
                      You keep repeating this over and over. You are actually fixated on it. Why are you so opposed to helping your "neighbor?"

                      While you are at it, please explain why do you do not seem to recognize that in your time of need, your "neighbor" would be there to help you under the same policy.

                      I am also curious... you recognize that under our current health care system that you do indeed already pay for other people health care through taxes for Medicaid and Medicare and through your own private policy. You also agree that you are actually paying more than is necessary for your care to subsidize the profit margins of these private corporations.

                      Under a Government option, people could choose a plan that was not for profit and lowers the cost of care while providing it to more people. Please explain why this is a bad thing.
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                • Author by bintx (August 14, 2009 10:24 am ET)
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                  You already do, ignoramus. When an uninsured person or an under insured person receives health care that they cannot afford, the hospitals and doctors don't just say, "aw, gee, they couldn't pay me," they pass along the lost revenues to YOU in the form of higher health care costs and higher insurance premiums.

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            • Author by bintx (August 14, 2009 10:26 am ET)
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              Ah, yes it is. Any government program which is paid for with tax dollars collected from the citizens of that nation are, by definition, "socialist" programs. Which ones do you want to get rid of? Public education? Good highways? The military? The post office? Social Security? Medicare? Which ones?
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              • Author by dave (August 14, 2009 1:08 pm ET)
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                I'll pay for the military, which is the only entity you mentioned required by law for the govt to provide, although I wish they'd cut back some on their spending, too. I pay state taxes to pay for my highways, and could care less about the post office, social security, and medicare. I live in NY which is being crushed by the cost of the medicare program that they set up. And now BO wants to take NY's program national....nice.
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          • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (August 13, 2009 10:37 pm ET)
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            Because, eejit, since the government provides things like roads, police departments, and fire departments, that those things are by nature socialist. They existed, and were just as socialist then as now, even before the term socialist was invented; so if you're so all het-up about "socialism" I'd suggest you stay off the public roads, don't call the socialist fire department when your house is on fire, and don't call the socialist police department if your house is burgled. Only then can you scream about hating socialism without being a comprehensive hypocrite...
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            • Author by dave (August 13, 2009 10:45 pm ET)
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              I never used the term socialist. I simply was inquiring why the term "free heathcare" was used. If you can somehow explain why it it free, I'm all for it. Free would be great, but I'm guessing somebosy, like myself, is paying for it.
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              • Author by rkallen09 (August 13, 2009 11:17 pm ET)
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                I simply was inquiring why the term "free heathcare" was used.
                Because the doctors were providing their services to those who desperately need it FOR FREE! Who was footing the bill? You obviously watched the segment but apparently missed the whole non-profit organization part. Perhaps you should look into RAM (Remote Area Medical) and get a better understanding of what they were doing.

                I think the hardest part to stomach is hearing a doctor say that they expect to see this kind of need in third world countries, not the United States. That comment alone brought me to near tears.
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            • Author by dave (August 14, 2009 12:56 pm ET)
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              Actually, I'm required by law to pay for those exact things. And I do in spades. Its those who don't pay taxes for them that have no reason calling, if you want to go that route. And now they want me to pay for their healthcare too.
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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (August 14, 2009 4:18 pm ET)
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          And now, let's sit back and relax, as we watch yet another grisly collision involving an analogy and concrete right wing thinking. Enjoy!
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    • Author by OOzinEvil (August 13, 2009 10:32 pm ET)
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      Why did MMFA run this story?
      Their mission statement is: "Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media."

      Where's the conservative misinformation?
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    • Author by JSparks (August 15, 2009 11:54 pm ET)
         
      I do not understand why the federal government has not use the Army Medical Corps to take charge of certain hospitals in poor areas where medical help is needed, or use the voucher system to be adapted to help hospitals to maintain their existence.
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