Focus group backfire! Guest tells Hannity protesters are "getting bad information from Fox News"
August 13, 2009 11:43 pm ET
From the August 13 edition of Fox News' Hannity:
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Someone needs to tell Sean that his rights end where mine begin.
Sean, start a Conservative Party..free the Republicans
ROFL -- this was more proof that, for the Fox Comedy Channel, unscripted focus groups and unedited live interviews are NOT their friend.
Or is it a concert night...his fans will give him support while he takes their cash.
For being a non-profit group, he sure gives a lot of tickets away. Shouldn't they sell those.
And the IRS should find out if he donates his time and uses these concert "appearance" fees as a write-off. He says he donates a lot to this concert stuff. Is it his appearance or real money?
I could envision a genuine reaction to Sean's little town hall focus group that could be quite disruptive. Ultimately no one appreciated being duped. I doubt Sean would consider such a disruption patriotic expression of God given rights.
Or how about Acron busing in protesters to a town hall, at least Sean had real folks with real questions. Just sad that some have not read the bill.
And if there weren't enough to make the cut, no big -- they simply recycled those that did:
I am a conservative willing to come to a liberal forum, I wonder how many of you would actually be willing to go to a Conservative forum.
Obama is not willing (so far at least) to fight the fights over the issues he campaigned on. And the Democratic congress is too greedy and cowardly to do it for him.
All in all, the Dems have power, but no willingness to use it on the issues on which they have been elected.
btw, Hannity is a disgrace
Remember when some Democrats wanted to not let Sen. Joe Lieberman caucus with them in the Senate? And President Obama said lay off - let him in? He didn't want to let Lieberman go on tv and play the victim. And who has heard a peep from Lieberman since?
The final week of the Senate session there were all those news stories about how there would not be more cash for clunkers - the Republicans were going to again be the Abominable No Men and block it. There just wasn't enough time before Recess (recess, indeed!).
President Obama got it done.
He's serious about working together and bipartianship. And if there is one lesson from these Recess Riots its that we need that more than ever.
In the end, if the GOP won't participate, then President Obama will do it without them. But he's giving them all the time he can - and they continue to make themselves out to be the fools they are in the process.
I predict the Democrats with return to the Senate and House in September very angry - and ready to get the job done.
Bottom Line: Never, never underestimate Barack Obama!
I think some average Americans are starting to catch on to the fact that there's a lot of money trying to shoot down reform, and they're getting a lot of misinformation.
I've seen hysterical screams of "Just say No!!" to healthcare turn to "Slow down!!". Some of this is BS, the natural conservative reaction to a world that's changing too quickly for them. "slow down" means "stop!" sometimes, but I think in the middle are some who are receptive to getting some facts.
There's also the matter of consequences bigger than the political. These screeching teabaggers and mental cases we see are (hopefully) a very small minority, but within this fringe are a few nuts who are close to snapping, as evidenced by the recent surge in right wing domestic terrorist acts.
I'm not saying that the sort of extremist who is going to shoot up an abortion clinic or sneak into a town hall with a gun is ever going to be affected by reasonable discussion of the issues, but maybe if they can be eased out of panic mode, if they can realize that they are not well supported by a significant group of Americans, they may be less emboldened as delusional nuts seem to be when they imagine popular support.
As a poster says below, in response to Beck's advertisers wising up;
..we are now calling all these companies and letting them know, there are more of us, then [sic] you.
I'm not saying that Markfoot is one of these terrorists, just noting the mindset. Note how often Rush or Fox's phony ratings are mentioned by cons in these threads, how often they need to chant that they're a majority, just as Hannity needs to repeat that Fox tells the truth.
It's all about groupthink,and constantly convincing themselves that what they believe is popular, and therefore, right.
That, and Obama was waiting for the drama in Minnesota to play itself out.
Harry Reid put up with Lieberman because he needed him to maintain the slim majority the Dems had -- now that the soap opera in MN is over and the Dems have a veto/filibuster - proof majority, Reid and Obama can give Joe Republican a well-deserved kick to the curb . . .
More important than the fact they were complaining about misinformation from the "fair and balanced" channel.
Welcome to Planet Wingnut.
(I call failliberal "Commode Boy" because he called Keith Olbermann "Bathtub Boy" in one of his many ignorant posts, and since turnabout is fair play, I named him after something else found in a bathroom.)
How can people support a man for President and watch the other Party and media do everything in their power to undermine, obstruct and deny all the things he ran his campaign on, and claim they are disappointed in HIM? How in the hell can you be disappointed in the man who is trying to do his job, knowing sore losers (opposition) want him to “fail”. Not only do they want him to fail, but they are doing everything to ensure that happens. People wake up; this is part of a plan, a plan to turn the American people against him. Think for yourself.
There is no reason to be disappointed in Obama, no; you should be disappointed in those who are spitting on democracy. The American people have spoken and they rejected the ideas and policies of those who are trying to hurt the President.
It is inexcusable to see all of the lying and misrepresentation by Republicans, conservatives, Fox News and most of the media and not know it is a diabolical plan to bring down this president.
If they stood by and let Bush do what he did to ruin this country, they could allow this president to clean up the mess and carry out all the things he campaigned on.
It’s a shame, but the America people are too gullible at best and stupid at worse.
I wasn't an Obama supporter, but I hoped that he would do a better job than the jackonkey who held that office for the past 8 years. So far, he's done well in some regards, not so well in others, but this ridiculously hateful, racist rhetoric being pushed by Fox, Rush, et al, and their blind followers who NEVER research the lies they are being fed on Fox is just that, ridiculous. He has done NOTHING to deserve the hate that these people are ginning up against him.
Oh oh, another thread starts to unwind in the manufactured event...
http://colorofchange.org/beck/
The worse thing that can happen is Beck looses his distribution network and his (until now)unchallenged access to hours of mass media. Beck might return to being just any other guy with a bunch of opinions. Constitutionally protected opinions nonetheless.
Besides if Beck goes a new right wing ignorantist will pop up to offer entertainment and enlightment. There seems to be no end to them.
Bear in mind, this is purely hypothetical. I'm not saying that Beck said those specific things, I'm wondering how far that principle extends. Also along these lines, do you believe that if you go off on a rant about how your boss's wife is a whore in front of everyone at the Christmas party, do you think "free speech" protects your job? If not, then how is one employee different from another?
Yeah, I was wondering how long it would be before the first wingnut apologist pulled the "we're taking away Beck's freedom of speech" card.
Wingnuts love to scream about freedom of speech, free markets, and free elections . . . 'til the results of any one of them wind up biting 'em in the a$$ -- then they scream "regulation" . . .
All the nickel and dime Radio Talkers will start making waves but their owners may tell them that Beck is on his own.
We can only hope.
They don't seem to realize that, as much as Glenda has the freedom to spout whatever nonsense he wants, others have the EQUAL right to call him on it.
And, as much as the free market determines how many viewers Becky gets, the free market also determines whether or not advertisers will continue to support him when he spouts nonsense that offends people.
Just like when Don Imus lost his show briefly after the "nappy headed hoes" flap -- the wingnuts thought his freedom of speech was being infringed upon; it wasn't -- he lost his show when advertisers pulled their sponsorship.
And if the same thing happens to Glenda -- congratulations, wingnuts . . . you just got a lesson in the free market.
Well, with advertisers pulling away from Glenn Beck's Show it maybe a long wait for Imus to join FoxNews Channel even with Sean Hannity's stamp of approval. Great comment above, thanks.
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"We got the best health care system in the world."
Gee, I thought Glenn said the other day 'we are bordering on eugenics'?
Flip or flop?
Hannity: "No no, they're getting the truth from Fox News"
Did anyone else think it seemed like even Hannity was a little embarrassed and unconvinced of what he was saying there?
And when somebody decides wrong, you report a little more loudly that you're telling them the truth!
Hannity: "No no, they're getting the truth from Fox News"
I cheered when this happened. Would like to see this entire episode.
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=8164377&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/
A bit different when it's shown uncut.
Quick Hannity, back into the slander cave!
Fox probably found 2 of those people on the street and the rest work for them. Seas will think twice about having another focus group.
I like how Seas carries around with him pieces of paper to make him "appear" to be smart but all they have are RNC talking points on them and whatever lies he's made up.