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In "Death of Small Business" special, Beck says insurance companies "make it impossible" to adequately cover his employees

August 17, 2009 5:55 pm ET

From the August 17 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

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    • Author by snoopy (August 17, 2009 5:57 pm ET)
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      Yet it's still the greatest system in the world? The fact that he understands that it's unaffordable and sells it anyways speaks volumes...
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      • Author by Bronwyn (August 18, 2009 2:33 am ET)
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        That's the system he doesn't want to lose. That's the system he doesn't want to change. What an idiot.
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    • Author by phredicles (August 17, 2009 5:58 pm ET)
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      So is he going to cry and call the insurance companies Marxist fascist socialist commie-nazis? Or tell his listeners, who all evidently have a whole lot of free time on their hands, to go around the country screaming about how horrible they are?
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      • Author by Vincenzo (August 17, 2009 6:53 pm ET)
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        This is probably setting up for a new round of attacks against the administration from a new direction.
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    • Author by kfraz43 (August 17, 2009 6:01 pm ET)
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      you know what they say: no brain, no pain.
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    • Author by tapley (August 17, 2009 6:04 pm ET)
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      Am I missing something here? Exactly why is he criticizing the President for wanting to help him?
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (August 17, 2009 6:20 pm ET)
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        I'm going with either GREED or STUPIDITY, possibly both, with a sprinkling of IRRATIONAL FEAR thrown in the mix.
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    • Author by Pinhead (August 17, 2009 6:05 pm ET)
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      Gee, if only there were some kind of government-run health care program that could insure his employees.
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      • Author by emj (August 17, 2009 8:48 pm ET)
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        Really, what's up with Beck? He is finally getting that insurance payments are expensive for everyone and every business. It has been so obvious to everyone else. Your post was funny!
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      • Author by JHaggs (August 18, 2009 1:19 am ET)
           
        WOW! This almost seems like it was from his CNN days. I had to double check the date this was taped.
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    • Author by pilotshark (August 17, 2009 6:08 pm ET)
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      Well the way advertises are jumping ship becks small busines will not have to worry as it will be out of busines
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      • Author by snoopy (August 17, 2009 7:17 pm ET)
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        8 more today. That's a running total of what, 12 now? Maybe Beck needs a government bailout to fund his failing business.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (August 17, 2009 6:13 pm ET)
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      I caught part of this broadcast, towards the end. A woman wanted to speak up in defense of the National Endowment for the Arts and she was talked over and ignored, even when she tried to speak up, she looked at her friend with one of those "Why did I bother" smiles. Goody, goody, Glenn pays for all of his employees' health care. He is opposed to a public option because it will destroy competition. We currently have 1300 different companies offering insurance coverage, but somehow, there are still 47 million, 20% of the population without coverage. Where is this marvelous free market that people like Glenn are so fond of? One fifth of the population lacks coverage because insurance companies decided that pre-existing conditions are bad for business, so they exclude them. They also raise cost with no explanation. What is a consumer to do?
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      • Author by Bronwyn (August 18, 2009 2:50 am ET)
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        All of them are one big walking, talking contradiction. "I didn't say that" then defend the very lie they claim they didn't say. "It's terrible system, it will kill you, trying to get well" (Glenn in 2008, after surgery), "You are about to lose the best health care system in the world" "It's getting more difficult to provide health care, but we will hang on to it as long as we can." They don't even know what they want or what they are fighting for. They just know they do not want a Democratic Administration to know what is best.
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        • Author by epkklk851 (August 18, 2009 10:05 am ET)
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          Quite true. It really annoys me that the Democrats won but may loose the country because a small group of people may succeed in convincing a larger group of people that they made a mistake by voting for Democrats even before the Democrats have a chance to change anything.
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    • Author by WhatImlost (August 17, 2009 6:18 pm ET)
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      "We have the worlds greatest insurance"
      "I cant afford to cover all my employees"

      *Attempting to find common ground between those two statements*
      ..........................................................
      ..........................................................
      ..........................................................
      *KABOOOM*(my head just explouded)
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    • Author by blueline99 (August 17, 2009 6:32 pm ET)
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      Glenn, you understand the problem and you want to do the right thing, I applaud you for that.

      Yet you defend these insurance companies for their greed.

      Rachel Maddow showed a statistic that between 2000-2007, the top ten Insurance company profits went up 428%($2.4B to $12.7B) while the number of uninsured went up 19%. The CEOs of the top ten insurance company averaged $11.9 Million in annual compensation.

      Glenn, you see the increase in coverage cost with fewer options for your employees. How can you defend this industry that has fed off the American people so dispicably.

      Glenn... you almost get it... just stand up for it!
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    • Author by bintx (August 17, 2009 6:37 pm ET)
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      That's why our small business can't get a policy to cover its employees. We have too many folks with "pre-existing" conditions. The companies can't legally deny coverage for us, so they jack up the premiums to the sky.
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    • Author by rtwmd1230 (August 17, 2009 6:43 pm ET)
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      Wow, this is amazing! At one level, Beck so totally gets it, but he's aggressively fighting the solution (and those who want to help him).

      A classic example of the strategy of upper-level Republicans: get people to agitate and vote against their own self-interest.
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      • Author by JHaggs (August 18, 2009 1:25 am ET)
           
        The optimist in me thinks, that one day, all these goobers will realize they've been had.....by insurance companies, FOX "news", lobbyists, etc.

        Like you said, rtwmd1230, they've been brainwashed to vote against their own self-interests. I want just one day in a Fox viewer's brain, just to see what its like.

        Beck's here complaining about a problem he has and that our current administration is trying to fix. Yet, he makes his $$$ fighting his own solutions. Didn't see the show, but he probably called Govt. Health Care "socialism" minutes later.
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    • Author by congero6189599 (August 17, 2009 6:45 pm ET)
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      So...So...So, please explain to me again how socialist President Obama is destroying small business and America? WoW! He really does know, he's just manipulating people for his own ends. He's playing people all the way to the bank. Then he just mentions that he's the only one that pays full healthcare coverage to his employees! Whooop de doo! What an opportunist scumbag!
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    • Author by christopher howard (August 17, 2009 7:03 pm ET)
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      Sorry, I don't agree with any of you that Beck even "almost gets it" here. This supposed hard look he's doing at the insurance companies is a tactical shift and nothing more. The right used its townhall screamers to get attention, now they are pretending to have a go at the insurance companies. Look for some insurance execs to mea culpa a little, if the drum beat for a public option continues, and pretend that they have learned their lesson and now "get it." I saw this whole scene play out when they derailed Clinton on this issue and then, once the issue was truly dead, went back to fleecing the public as usual.
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    • Author by miles_64 (August 17, 2009 7:13 pm ET)
         
      I think this has been taken out of context. I was at the filming of that show (I'm in the blue jacket) and Beck was saying that the GOVT. are making it impossible for small business owners to insure their employees by raising taxes. So, I just wanted to clarify that. Take the debate from there.
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      • Author by snoopy (August 17, 2009 7:44 pm ET)
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        And just where did beck make the link that it was the government making it impossible? His whole discussion shown here was on the rising costs of health care. Is he blaming government for the rising costs? Please explain, and hopefully provide a link of beck saying it.
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    • Author by Indy (August 17, 2009 7:24 pm ET)
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      The Daily Show had clips of Glenn after surgery a while back on his CNN show trashing the US health care system and then showed him proclaiming it as the greatest system in the world a few week ago on Fox. Amd yet the right wing zombies trust this tool to no end. Still amazing that I get my most insightful takes on current events from a comedy show.

      Your text to link here...
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      • Author by emj (August 17, 2009 8:52 pm ET)
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        I hope Stewart sees this one! Stewart will do a real double take on this clip. I know I did.
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    • Author by photonman (August 17, 2009 7:28 pm ET)
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      It is disappointing to see a network of close-minded individuals personally attacking Glenn without attacking his arguments. You call me a crazy right-wing conspirator, and that I blindly follow Beck, Hannity, and Limbaugh without any hesitation. I don't believe Obama is a Nazi or that he wants to kill my grandmother.

      As a former Obama supporter, I now see what is really going on in this country. For other Obama supporters turned "crazy conservatives," this health care debate isn't about health care. My grandmother is recovering from a mental breakdown after a stroke. She is unemployed, and has trouble paying for her medication. I would love to see her prescriptions covered by a universal health care plan.

      But, I question the motives of a plan when those such as Cass Sunstein, Ezekiel Emanuel, and Pete Singer have the ear of the president. I am not crazy, and I don't submit to any source of media. I listen to Beck's presentations and use rationality to decide for myself. People across America are using their brains, and connecting the dots as I have. If you want to see "crazy conservativism," head on over to http://www.americanthinker.com, and tell me I'm crazy.
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      • Author by dr. matt (August 17, 2009 7:58 pm ET)
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        Whether you are crazy or not is not the issue. That fact that you listen to Becky makes you a complete and utter idiot and the fact that you call yourself a "former Obama supporter" makes you a complete and utter liar.

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        • Author by snoopy (August 17, 2009 8:01 pm ET)
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          Exactly. Obama's support among democrats is in the 90's. With numbers like that "former" supporters are numbered in the hundreds...
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        • Author by photonman (August 17, 2009 11:05 pm ET)
             
          I have only watched Beck for three weeks. It was not on the tip of a friend, but because he was on after another program.

          The first day: He at least seemed interesting, stating he was a source for news that the "mainstream media" had passed up. He talked about how cap and trade would ruin America, and spoke with the passion of a televangelist. And I believed everything he said. He lit a fire in my soul. (Remember, this is my first time watching him.)

          So I do a little research on this guy. I was appalled at what I found. He said Obama has "a deep seated hatred for white people," and that he hated 9-11 victims. How could any sane American entertain these thoughts. I listened as he blew up on his radio show ("You are a pinhead," way over the top). I was stunned that I could let my guard down. (Does it sound like I'm about to contradict myself?)

          But why do I still watch? Why did I go against my gut reaction? Because I researched what he had to say about Saul Alinksy's tactics, outlined in his book, Rules for Radicals. What members of this forum say about Beck illustrates, at least for me, Alinsky's 13th tactic,

          "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

          (This next bit is directly from Beck, so it's obviously irrelevant) When you see depictions of town hall meetings on the nightly news, would it be wrong to say that isolated (my subjective opinion) incidents of "shoutdowns" were used to personalize the entire movement against reform as an "angry mob."

          (Back to my opinion, with bits from Beck for flavor)
          I can't know with certainty that Obama heard of these rules, but what I see in this country is similar to the start of a plan outlined by two economists, Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. Google cloward-piven. (That's how I discovered the American Thinker, which I submitted to show contrast to the discussions held here.) Google cloward-piven and decide for yourself if what you see in America sounds like what you find. I as a rational individual, believe the parallels are obvious. You may not. I have also found this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlkPkJInUmU and my reason for placing it here speaks for itself.


          Anyway, back to why I watch Beck. It's not about what only about what he has to say. He has very intelligent guests on his show. Case in point, the concerned small business owners, about 30 or so, who voiced their opinions about the struggles of running a small business. (However, I do think it was wrong for the others to "shout down" the woman who expressed her opinion on funding the National Endowment For the Arts.) I called you closed minded because you wouldn't account that Glenn only did about 40% of the talking on this particular day--because you wouldn't listen to the other well-respected individuals.

          I watch because he makes points that counter what the mainstream media would like us to believe. (Oh, this Photonman is crazy, now the media is corrupt?!) For future reference, Beck is not a Democrat or a Republican, but a Libertarian and has said many times he's against both parties.

          (The craziest part of all)
          After making my own judgement, I will continue to watch Beck, as I have for the past three weeks. Furthermore, I will listen to what he says and compare it with my view of the world (which must be tilted by those right wing lunatics). I do believe that President Obama is trying to slowly replace the private insurance industry with a government run program, and you, Dr. Matt, do not. I believe that the media, not the right wing "conspirators," are euphemistically covering Obama's motives. I once would have sided with you, but I and many other Americans (look at poll numbers) have similar feelings. However, our views are so drastically differing that no amount of argument can convince the other to concede their opinion. It is futile to attempt otherwise. I am sorry to have wasted my time on a site such as this.

          Finally, I was an Obama supporter, and continued to support him up until about a week ago. Had I been old enough to vote, I would have voted for Barack. Too bad I was only 15 at the time of the election (What?) But I can't really support something if I'm not old enough to have an adult opinion, so you're technically correct. But that probably means I'm too young to form a rational thought, that I'm too naive to listen to any commentary, because my young mind is too easily brainwashed by those "only interested in stirring the pot." If only that were the case.
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      • Author by Pinhead (August 17, 2009 8:27 pm ET)
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        I checked out that site, and you're right: they are not crazy. Intellectually dishonest, and deceitful, but they sure aren't crazy.

        I listen to Beck's presentations and use rationality to decide for myself.


        If you used "rationality" when you first watched Beck, you would have made the decision to change the channel.

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      • Author by congero6189599 (August 17, 2009 8:32 pm ET)
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        Ummmmmm....you listen to Beck then you connect the dots but you call others close minded for not coming to the same conclusion. Your confused, and I'am confused as to what your saying? This post and this website are full of exposing Becks,Hannity and Limbaughs ideas, are you blind? Where did you get your information concerning who has the ear of the President? Was it from Beck,Hannity or Limbaugh?
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      • Author by rtwmd1230 (August 17, 2009 8:56 pm ET)
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        "I am not crazy ... head on over to http://www.americanthinker.com, and tell me I'm crazy."

        You're crazy.
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        • Author by photonman (August 18, 2009 2:55 am ET)
             
          Okay, now that were both on the same page, I submit to you a youtube video that expands on the ideas of the ideas in my above post.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDDBZuheQxs

          Watch this video, and tell me I'm crazy. I double dog dare you. Tell me that you aren't brainwashed by twenty years of careful planning by those who wish to gain power. Tell me, with absolute certainty, that Obama is not a socialist. Tell me that this country isn't headed for a radical shift in power. Please, tell me I'm wring in my thinking. If you are a sane person, YOU CANNOT. This man in the video gives a commentary from his experience in the Soviet KGB, and hopefully, you will snap out of your comfortable, Obama trance. If you still cannot see what this nation is coming to, then I hope you know that you ARE assisting in the conversion of this country to socialism.

          Glenn Beck has said some completely outrageous things in his past, but that doesn't doesn't discredit everything he says. We watch Beck because he offers the TRUTH. We watch him because, as the KGB defector says, the media has been ideologically subverted. I can no longer trust the mainstream media, making him source for information that I completely agree with.

          You all are ideologically subverted. You think that you are fighting back against the evil insurance copporations. You believe that Sarah Palin is an idiot (and I would agree with you), but your subconscious uses that as an excuse to "stand up and fight for those who can't get coverage," while you are distracted by a man who "fights for real change." You cannot see what the change is really about. I am young, and haven't been "brainwashed."

          Glenn Beck isn't fear mongering. He simply states the TRUTH. The truth is downright frightening, but it's the truth nonetheless.

          You have two options, keep believing what you see on MSNBC, keep your head in the sand, and believe that Obama actually cares about capitalism and freedom, or OPEN YOUR EYES to what is going on. The information is out there, but if you dismiss it, than it is too late for you. Watch this video. It will turn your world upside down.
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      • Author by Rasta Farian (August 17, 2009 9:40 pm ET)
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        You little pinhead...GET OFF MY PHONE!!!
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (August 17, 2009 10:47 pm ET)
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        Ok, you're crazy
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    • Author by seroquel (August 17, 2009 8:53 pm ET)
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      Back in Jan. '08, Beck had some surgery done. He complained how bad the health system is in this country, and spoke of how the country needede to change this.
      Now he's against changing it, probably because maybe he's getting paid to go against it? Wouldn't surprise me any...
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