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Morning Joe continues to falsely claim that Pelosi and Hoyer called protestors "un-American"

August 18, 2009 8:26 am ET

From the August 18 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:

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Previously:

Dobbs mischaracterizes Pelosi-Hoyer "un-American" remark to claim "hypocrisy ... raging from the left"

Carlson, Doocy falsely claim Pelosi called health reform opponents "un-American"

Politico again distorts Pelosi, Hoyer remarks on disruptive tactics

Media falsely claim Pelosi and Hoyer called health reform opponents "un-American"

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    • Author by DAWUSS (August 18, 2009 8:43 am ET)
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      Let's find some right-wing quotes during the anti-WOT protests.
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    • Author by wookie (August 18, 2009 8:45 am ET)
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      Maybe Pelosi and Hoyer saw this.

      PHOENIX – About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the convention center where President Barack Obama was giving a speech Monday — the latest incident in which protesters have openly displayed firearms near the president.us_obama_protesters_guns
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      • Author by nerzog (August 18, 2009 9:05 am ET)
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        I'd hate to think what will happen if one of these cowboys gets a little too frisky and gets gunned down by the Secret Service. The Teabaggers will have themselves a martyr.
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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (August 18, 2009 9:21 am ET)
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          And the Secret Service will simply have killed another terrorist.
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      • Author by dr. matt (August 18, 2009 12:41 pm ET)
           

        Just imagine the fake outrage if a brown person showed up with a rifle to an herr dubyah event.
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    • Author by John Paradox (August 18, 2009 9:05 am ET)
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      Of course, referring to a democratically elected President as 'racist' is not the same.

      Reminds me of the double think from Xians when they get caught with their rhetoric in the gutter: we hate the sin, but love the sinner.

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    • Author by lather (August 18, 2009 9:09 am ET)
         
      Debate with Guns? Make a Statement with a Gun?
      This is 2009.. Not the wild west!
      These are the same fools who are stocking up on ammo for the "revolution".

      PASS PUBLIC OPTION!!!!
      GREED & GLUTTONY & SELFISHNESS ARE EVIL!


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    • Author by New Frontier (August 18, 2009 9:14 am ET)
         
      Pat Buchanan blames the shrillness on the "Insanity of the Liberal Democrats". If you don't believe him, just look at the accompanying video of a donkey being hung in a effigy. (No doubt planted there just to make protesters look bad.)
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    • Author by williaminny (August 18, 2009 10:14 am ET)
         
      I can only guess that the reason you claim that Pelosi didn't
      call the protesters, "unamerican," is that she called those who
      disrupt meetings, by that epithet, and not the protesters, but
      it is the protesters who she claims are disrupting the meetings.
      Therefore, she is calling the protesters, "unamerican." I
      would also point out that in 2006, she said that she liked
      disrupters, when they were on her side and were protesting
      George W. Bush.
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    • Author by craig98607271 (August 18, 2009 10:51 am ET)
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      i certainly agree about the twisted spin they put on pelosi but i do take plesure in the right is doing what the left has done for so many years is orginize screamers to shout down and intimidate the other side.
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      • Author by political_left-religious_right (August 18, 2009 11:00 am ET)
           
        i certainly agree about the twisted spin they put on pelosi

        Good. There's hope for you.

        but i do take plesure [sic] in the right is doing what the left has done for so many years is orginize [sic] screamers to shout down and intimidate the other side.

        You and others have been asked to prove this point before, and you keep coming up empty. Why is that?

        p.s. Is there no shift key on your keyboard? Your misspellings intimate that you're none too bright, but no capitalization means you're also lazy. If you want to be taken seriously, fix things up.
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        • Author by goesto11 (August 18, 2009 11:21 am ET)
             
          Yeah, show us those pictures of liberals carrying guns to Reagan speeches.
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        • Author by craig98607271 (August 18, 2009 11:48 am ET)
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          that means so much to me that you give me hope. i take it you are a newborn baby and have never seen a television or read a news report. how about the vienam war protestors acted. people bused from all over the country to protest vietnam, iraq and so many anti bush rallys its to many to count. code pink ans seiu make a lot of noise.

          you all either turn a blind eye or you say well we were right and thats why we did that. guess what the other side feels the same.

          i heard this morning on steph miller how bad the astroturfers were and in the same sentence endorse a callers call to orginize a million person protest for single payer healthcare. and i don't give a rats for your elitist snobery on my typing style.
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          • Author by John Paradox (August 18, 2009 12:40 pm ET)
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            Born after 'Nam, or too late to face the Draft, eh?

            We call you types 'chickenhawks'.

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            • Author by craig98607271 (August 18, 2009 1:24 pm ET)
                 
              if you are talking to me i served in the Navy, Marines and Army reserves. and i hate chickenhawks (hannity, rush, ingraham etc)
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          • Author by political_left-religious_right (August 18, 2009 2:14 pm ET)
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            that means so much to me that you give me hope. i take it you are a newborn baby

            I'm 45, and my IQ is 134. Ready to compare?

            and have never seen a television or read a news report.

            Wrong, obviously.

            how about the vienam war protestors acted. people bused from all over the country to protest vietnam, iraq and so many anti bush rallys its to many to count. code pink ans seiu make a lot of noise.

            Were you intoxicated when you typed this, or are you like this all the time?

            you all either turn a blind eye or you say well we were right and thats why we did that. guess what the other side feels the same.

            Frankly, I don't care if the "other side" feels the same when they can't back up their convictions with facts, like we do.

            i heard this morning on steph miller how bad the astroturfers were and in the same sentence endorse a callers call to orginize a million person protest for single payer healthcare.

            And what's wrong with that? No one said protests in and of themselves were a problem. The mini-mobs are into shutting down discourse entirely, and are showing signs of becoming violent.

            and i don't give a rats for your elitist snobery on my typing style.

            It's not just your "typing" style, it's your thinking style. It shows you're lazy, disorganized, and not altogether very bright. Why you want to expose yourself that way beats me.
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            • Author by craig98607271 (August 18, 2009 2:26 pm ET)
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              oh i am so sorry. i had no idea i was up against someone so smart. how can i ever blog again. a 134 IQ. man thats tough to beat. so if i had a IQ of 135 does that mean you are wrong and i am right. i'm 53 so i'm older and wiser? don't know. code pink says all US military are criminals. are those facts or opinion or wrong. i don't like the screamers at the town hall meetings anymore than you, its just that i have seen it so many times on the other side it makes you all a bit hypocritical thats all.
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              • Author by political_left-religious_right (August 19, 2009 1:55 pm ET)
                   
                oh i am so sorry.

                Stop lying. It's not funny.

                i had no idea i was up against someone so smart.

                There are plenty of people on these boards that are smarter than I am, which makes you look even more foolish by comparison.

                how can i ever blog again. a 134 IQ. man thats tough to beat. so if i had a IQ of 135 does that mean you are wrong and i am right.

                No, and I never said anything of the sort, of course.

                i'm 53 so i'm older and wiser?

                No, just older. Reagan was old and was dumb as a brick. G.W. never got any wiser with his years, either.

                don't know. code pink says all US military are criminals. are those facts or opinion or wrong.

                It's wrong (if they actually said any such thing--a link would be helpful). Naturally, I don't agree with it.

                i don't like the screamers at the town hall meetings anymore than you, its just that i have seen it so many times on the other side it makes you all a bit hypocritical thats all.

                And I asked for examples, and you couldn't provide them. It's over and done with, craig. You took your turn at bat and struck out. There's no use arguing about it, just walk back to the dugout and wait for next time.

                And try to absorb a little education in the meantime. It would do you a world of good.
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (August 18, 2009 11:36 am ET)
           
        Its all very well to try to get attension. Yelling and screaming have always worked well. But after you have our attension, what serious point(s) do you have?
        What major leftist wallets can be seen spending millions to organize and ship protesters time and again to disrupt serious conservative meetings?
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      • Author by dr. matt (August 18, 2009 12:42 pm ET)
           
        the left has done for so many years is orginize screamers to shout down and intimidate the other side.


        When and where?
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        • Author by craig98607271 (August 18, 2009 1:50 pm ET)
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          Bush with a hitler mustache and swasticas inSF 10/24/06. SF 9/12/07 faciests screamers. I think bush was one of the worst presidents in our history but saying the left has only peasceful non orginized protests is really stupid.
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    • Author by williaminny (August 18, 2009 11:48 am ET)
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      Apparently the reason you say that Pelosi didn't rrefer to
      protesters as, "unamerican," is that she was saying that
      those who disrupted meetings were, "unamerican," and not
      the protesters. Howevwer, it is the protesters who she is
      accusing of disrupting the meetings, so she is calling the
      protesters, "unamerican." By the way, in 2006 she said that
      she liked, "disrupters," when they were protesting against
      George W.Bush

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    • Author by lookoutoftheyard2251 (August 18, 2009 11:52 am ET)
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      Maybe he just feels really guilty about calling the Dixie Chicks un-American, so he's overcompensating with false equivalences.
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