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Beck guest host Pat Gray on Katrina victims: "Those people stayed behind; they weren't left behind"

Gray on green jobs czar Van Jones: "He is one of the instigators of the whole 'George Bush hated black people and wanted them dead' "

August 19, 2009 12:11 pm ET

From the August 19 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:

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Glenn Beck called hurricane survivors in New Orleans "scumbags," said he "hates" 9-11 families

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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (August 19, 2009 12:15 pm ET)
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      They weren't left behind, huh?

      Well if they were allsuch good christians, why didn't Bush do more to help them?
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      • Author by shaggles (August 19, 2009 12:39 pm ET)
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        Because they wanted to get rid of the poor folk and gentrify the area. I think some a-hole in NO said something along the lines of "Katrinra did what we've been trying to do for decades." They also used it as an excuse to cram charter schools down peoples throuts and basically destroyed the public school system in NO.
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      • Author by Bronwyn (August 19, 2009 2:02 pm ET)
           
        I have heard a lot of people make this argument and everyone of them, I've heard say this are Republicans bar none.
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    • Author by raine315 (August 19, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
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      Well a whole bunch of these Christian Conservatives who beleive in the rapture are gonna find themselves 'Left Behind' when judgement day comes.
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    • Author by dr. matt (August 19, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
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      Becky: you know, it took me about a year to start hating the 9-11 victims' families? Took me about a year.

      Becky: But the second thought I had when I saw these people and they had to shut down the Astrodome and lock it down, I thought: I didn't think I could hate victims faster than the 9-11 victims.

      Becky: And that's all we're hearing about, are the people in New Orleans. Those are the only ones we're seeing on television are the scumbags -- again, and it's not all the people in New Orleans.

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      • Author by jjamele2880 (August 19, 2009 12:39 pm ET)
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        Right- it's "not all the people in New Orleans," just the ones who were too "stupid" to pack up their Lexus SUVs and drive to their winter homes in Aspen until the hurricane blew over.

        The "why didn't they just LEAVE" clueless blathering of these disgusting idiots is more galling than anything else I heard post-Katrina. Talk about living in your own little cocoon.
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        • Author by foghornleghorn (August 19, 2009 12:49 pm ET)
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          Exactly. It's nothing more than hatred of the poor.

          And don't forget it wasn't the hurricane that caused all the suffering and death. New Orleans has survived hurricanes in the past. It was the unexpected massive flooding. What was Bush/FEMA's response? A couple photo ops with Brownie and sending ice trucks to Maine and setting up trailer camps in Arkansas.
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          • Author by fairliberal (August 19, 2009 11:21 pm ET)
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            Unexpected? It seems that Nagin and Blanco were the only 2 people who thought it was unexpected. Remember good old Ray Nagin who didn't even have walkie talkies for his first responders to use. And who let all of the school buses get destroyed instead of using them to evacuate more people.

            The Feds were there at first light saving thousands of people from roof tops, remember that.

            Any idiot would realize that FEMA cannot bring their assets into the area until the storm passes. What would the reaction be if they did and all of their equipment was destroyed. Then they would be criticised for being too close.

            Remember how Bush called before the storm and offered help.

            It's too bad that Blanco was not as capable as Jeb Bush was here in Florida.

            http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/9/4/151327.shtml
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            • Author by foghornleghorn (August 19, 2009 11:43 pm ET)
                 
              You are dense. And intellectually dishonest for linking to newsmax.

              Very little of the suffering had to do with the hurricane. It was the failure of the levees, WHICH WASN'T EXPECTED.

              Bush didn't even know about the suffering until Laura changed the channel from the Western Movie Hero Network.

              Fairlib=fail.
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              • Author by fairliberal (August 20, 2009 4:57 pm ET)
                   
                You are a fool, the failure of the levees were being speculated about for years, it was only a matter of time. Maybe the dimocrats who were in charge were not aware of it but most were. Obviously ignorant people like you were not also.
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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (August 19, 2009 1:13 pm ET)
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          The "why didn't they just LEAVE" clueless blathering of these disgusting idiots is more galling than anything else I heard post-Katrina. Talk about living in your own little cocoon.
          The ones who tried to leave on foot found the bridges out of New Orleans blocked by State Troopers who forced them back into the city.
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          • Author by Bronwyn (August 19, 2009 2:51 pm ET)
               
            The people that did manage to get out, still lost every thing, were still homeless and destitute. This jerk makes it sound like if they got out all their problems were solved. The crime was how long it took to get any help to the victims. And you are right about many being turned back while trying to leave.
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    • Author by dmhack (August 19, 2009 12:43 pm ET)
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      This man is a staggering idiot on so many levels. But perhaps he hit the heights of stupidity (and that's saying a lot) with his contention that, per capita, more whites than blacks died.

      People died.

      People died because other people in power were criminally incompetent. People died because, black or white, they didn't have the financial resources to leave NO. If you want to play the per capita game then let's make it more realistic... more poor people than other other social class died.
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      • Author by Bronwyn (August 19, 2009 2:08 pm ET)
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        Beck purposely pick this idiot to fill in for him. Just to prove there exists someone, out there just as stupid and heartless as he is.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (August 19, 2009 12:47 pm ET)
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      I was teaching in an eastern state in 2005, my school had a high percentage of African American students, and many of them believed that if New Orleans had not been a city with a high percentage of Blacks, it would have been treated differently. I don't happen to think this is true, the cuts to the Federal budget that neglected the levees and other infrastructures (like bridges) had more to do with the flooding than race, but if you are a poor Black person who couldn't afford to get out of town, or who had lived your whole life in the city and never saw the levees fail like this, you wouldn't know how dire your situation was. It is nice that Mr. Gray has lived such a charmed life. His comments are proof positive of latent racism; notice how he assumed that these people stayed behind to loot. Saying that there was no racism toward Katrina victims is like saying there was no classism to the Titanic victims. First Class male passengers had a higher survival rate than steerage women and children, despite the decree that women and children go first. I don't think the President set out to screw over the people of New Orleans, but he managed to just the same. And his mother, Barbara, America's favorite granny, did say some very unkind things about all the victims who moved to Texas in the aftermath. The remarks may not have been racist, but they were certainly classist, since she was disparing their need and poverty.
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      • Author by Bronwyn (August 19, 2009 2:15 pm ET)
           
        Also the remarks that most of the people were better off now, because they live better than they did before Katrina. Being rich does not necessarily make you smart, kind or in-tuned.
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    • Author by newzhound (August 19, 2009 1:09 pm ET)
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      Where is Glenn Beck (not that I really care)?

      I'm not saying that his masters at Faux Noise got scared about his advertisers heading for the Exit. So they told him to tone it down - quite a bit.

      Full of himself, Beck mouthed off to his bosses.

      Then they told him to take some time off and think long and hard about the shreds of his "career..."

      I'm not saying...
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    • Author by dmp079 (August 19, 2009 1:13 pm ET)
         
      Did they fire Beck? Who is this guy? Oh! He is the second string of liers they have on the bench to back-up the starter just in case he strikes out. In which case Beck did and Gray is next. Strike 3 You're out!
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    • Author by petham (August 19, 2009 1:37 pm ET)
         
      At approximately 2:14 minutes into this nonsense Mr. Beck suggests (about hurricane Katrina) that "it was a non-event." Shortly thereafter, he suggests that "it rained a little." At roughly 3:15 minutes he uses the word catastrophe. One catastrophic event is the fact that Mr. Beck is allowed a microphone and scare pulpit to froth at the mouth with his ill-informed, uneducated rants.
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      • Author by fairliberal (August 19, 2009 9:24 pm ET)
           
        Speaking of ill-informed, you don't even know who is speaking. Another uneducated rant?
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    • Author by HistoricallyCorrect (August 19, 2009 1:38 pm ET)
         
      What?
      Kanye West is no public intellectual and no one listens to his insane ramblings anyways (or so I hope). Don't quote him as a source in anything other than Hip Hop and Music.
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    • Author by nan4tjn (August 19, 2009 1:48 pm ET)
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      How come their Democrat mayor and govenor did nothing to help their own people? Why is it the Federal governments problem? Since Katrina many other disasters have happened and I didn't hear those people yell and scream for the government to help them out (and yes some were just as bad as Katrina) their state, neighbors helped.
      I sick of the blame Bush crowd, he told those people to get out they didn't listen! Loads of busses were waiting for the Mayor to tell them to leave the parking lot but they sat there.
      What about personal responsibilty?
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (August 19, 2009 2:44 pm ET)
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        Why is it the Federal governments problem?

        Must this all be explained yet again. Looks like that's the case.

        OK. Here we go. When Katrina hit shore it was only a Category 2 storm. These levels of storms have been ridden out by the people before. It was the failed levees that caused the majority of the problems.

        So the local government was paralyzed because the city was UNDERWATER. The state government had little resources because most of their heavy equipment and national guardsmen were in IRAQ. FEMA was set up for just such an emergency situation and was the only entity capable of bringing relief. Ergo, they must assume the brunt of the blame.

        And please tell us why more people didn't (as someone stated above) just hop into their SUV and drive to their vacation home?

        What about personal responsibility? How about being competent and aiding your fellow man. Your disparagement of the poor people of New Orleans is DISGUSTING!! (and maybe, just maybe, a little bit racist)
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        • Author by emcfarla1 (August 19, 2009 4:31 pm ET)
             
          Actually, when it hit shore it was a Category 3 or 4, not a 2 as you say. Now what you may have meant is that it was a Category 1 when it first hit Florida on August 25th. It still doesn't matter because the levees that failed weren't built or maintained properly which in turn was a major reason for the failure. Oh yeah let us not forget about the people that lived in these flood plains being warned for years on end about the possibility of these levees failing and causing damage. Many of the people that were killed,hurt, or injured did so by their own choice by staying back and trying to wait it out. I know I would have jumped into my Range Rover and gone to my vacation home in Marthas Vineyard.
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        • Author by jjamele2880 (August 19, 2009 4:52 pm ET)
             
          Every single idiotic "point" made by nan4jn was standard Hannitized talking point gibberish. Every single thing he said, I heard Sean Hannity say again and again during the crisis- it was Gov Blanco's fault, it was Mayor Nagin's fault, there were buses that people didn't take, or they weren't ready, or both, blah blah blah.

          No, it doesn't need to be explained again. If, four years after the fact, nan4jn prefers to believe his version of events, there's nothing to be done. Some people are just beyond educating. Oddly enough, a great many of them listen to Sean Hannity.
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          • Author by fairliberal (August 19, 2009 11:23 pm ET)
               
            Yes it does need to be explained again.

            http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/9/4/151327.shtml
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (August 19, 2009 11:52 pm ET)
               
            Or, as in failliberal's case, read newsmax.
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