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Greta to Steele: If GOP cares about health care reform, "why ... didn't" they "do health care reform when" in majority?

August 26, 2009 7:56 am ET

From the August 25 edition of Fox News' On the Record with Greta Van Susteren:

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (August 26, 2009 8:00 am ET)
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      Because they were too busy cutting taxes for rich people and passing corporate welfare legislation.
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    • Author by goesto11 (August 26, 2009 8:04 am ET)
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      They were too busy looking for the boogie man -- er, for weapons of mass destruction.

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (August 26, 2009 8:09 am ET)
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      They were too busy sucking up to the Evangelicals.
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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (August 26, 2009 8:11 am ET)
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      I'm sort of thinking when Steele said, "I don't have an idea", he wrapped up the republicans position in three words.

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      • Author by smarshall1432997 (August 26, 2009 8:32 am ET)
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        So "true" you are with how Republicans addressed so many issues that affect Americans lives every day by saying, "I don't have an idea". LOL And this is why the Republicans are great "Opposers" with their 'just say no' statements. LOL
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      • Author by National_Insecurity (August 26, 2009 12:15 pm ET)
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        No, the talking point was, "Nobody could have imagined...." as in
        - Nobody could have imagined hijackers crashing planes. - Condi
        - Nobody could have imagined there were no WMD. Cheney & Bush, Rumsfeld, Bolton
        - Nobody could have imagined the levees failing in New Orleans. Bush, Brownie, WH PR Flack
        - Nobody could have imagined mortgage banks and investors would behave irrationally. Greenspan
        - Nobody could have imagined the stock market would collapse that could have brought down a privatized Social Security system Bush

        What we have here is a failure of imagination, to paraphrase the sheriff in Cool Hand Luke
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        • Author by princeofwheels (August 26, 2009 2:53 pm ET)
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          "Nobody could have imagined...any of the above but now they can ALL imagine everything that IS going to HAPPEN 10 years from now.
          At least they won't be wrong for 10 years.
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    • Author by magnolialover (August 26, 2009 8:14 am ET)
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      Great question Greta.
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    • Author by dmhack (August 26, 2009 8:16 am ET)
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      Michael Steele---taking stupidity to a whole new level.
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      • Author by princeofwheels (August 26, 2009 2:59 pm ET)
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        Not really, he has been at that whole new level for a long time now. Maybe he has reached his top level.

        I also find it interesting that the Cons/Repubs still let this not so genius guy carry their water.. How did he get this job? Did color have anything to do with it? I don't think so, the Cons never think color.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (August 26, 2009 8:24 am ET)
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      Go get 'em Greta. Another conservative I don't mind. She always used to been one I enjoyed watching. She's been a bit to far to the right since going to Fox (big surprise) but she can still keep 'em honest every now and then.
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      • Author by cuardai (August 26, 2009 9:08 am ET)
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        She does seem less nutsy then the others yeah.
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        • Author by National_Insecurity (August 26, 2009 12:16 pm ET)
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          Check her Kool-Aid. She still thinks she's a journalist and tries to behave like one.
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    • Author by puttforever4682 (August 26, 2009 8:26 am ET)
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      Steele had an op-ed in the Washington Post on Monday that was full of debunked talking points on health care reform. I asked MMFA to cite the column as misinformation but It did not get included. Is print not a souece of misinformation I wonder?
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      • Author by overmars jr. (August 26, 2009 9:16 am ET)
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        Okay, Mikey, so now you're ready to 'engage in a big way'. And yet you still cannot tell people what that way is.
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    • Author by New Frontier (August 26, 2009 8:28 am ET)
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      Steele: "But that's the past!" Yep. Republicans never (Ayers!) like to talk (Carter!) about the past (Monica!).
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    • Author by DAWUSS (August 26, 2009 9:16 am ET)
         
      Rupert can't be happy.
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      • Author by National_Insecurity (August 26, 2009 12:17 pm ET)
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        Roger Ailes cracks the whip. Rupert just wants to see ad revenue.
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    • Author by LORISNJ (August 26, 2009 9:31 am ET)
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      They didn't try to pass healthcare reform because the people it would have helped don't normally vote Republican or don't contribute to campaigns.

      The Republican position on everything is if it doesn't help Republicans then they are against it no matter how good it is for the country.

      They also don't want minorities to get healthy and live long enough to collect Social Security.

      They wouldn't do anything that could possibly help anyone but themselves.

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    • Author by SLRTX (August 26, 2009 10:45 am ET)
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      Republicans have been too busy working their "base" on more important issues:

      Getting prayer in school
      Stopping gay marriage
      Flag burning
      Teaching creationism in schools
      And the list goes on..
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    • Author by shaggles (August 26, 2009 11:00 am ET)
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      Oooh. Greta's going off script.
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    • Author by newzhound (August 26, 2009 11:22 am ET)
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      I don't Greta is being fair here.

      I recall the Congress passing a bill that poor Terri Schiavo was still alive. Bll Frist diagnosed her via video.

      That was the GOP effort to "reform" health care and health insurance in America.

      The real reason? There wasn't any money in it. The K Street Project required that people who wanted legislation to pay to play.

      The consumers - the gulls sucked in by the right wing nutz - weren't going to be a source of campaign contributions. Ergo: No health care reform.
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    • Author by latanza (August 26, 2009 11:30 am ET)
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      Steele is very strong and a good match as an adversary for Obama. THis is the thing: THe Question is as good as plutonium. "Why didn't the GOP try to do anything about this monster before now?" That is all you need to prove Obama's argument.

      FOLLOW THE BREAD CRUMBS AND BUILD OFF OF THE DECEIT, DON'T DEFEND OR ARGUE IT.
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      • Author by National_Insecurity (August 26, 2009 12:19 pm ET)
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        Steele is very strong and a good match as an adversary for Obama.

        Whose fantasy is that? Steele may be a good dissembler, but he doesn't know his facts.
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        • Author by latanza (August 27, 2009 11:19 am ET)
             
          I speak from a perspective of strategy. What I am saying is that the Republican Party has matched an African American to the position of adversary because it can not now be based on race. The approach to most of the GOP's stances is based out of racial intolerance, not hatred, and financial greed before that. Steele is an adversary and the most formitable for the present intentions so it is very strategic and calculated. You have recognize when your opponent makes a good move so that in your arrogance you don't underestimate his next one. Steele will not be able to hold up to the latter though: "Why didn't the GOP do anything about the Health Care Monster before it got to this point? Build off of the management and choices of the GOP for the American people's money and what they have invested in. THey always argue that the Dem's spend too much. They may not spend as much but they always take more than they give and spend on party agenda's and not the people's. When the Rep's are in office, they move with autonomy and not within the need or request of the average citizen. They do not show accountability for what they do as well.
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        • Author by latanza (August 27, 2009 11:22 am ET)
             
          Steele is the one face who they can get to turn conservative AA's or to post a Black Rep opinion in support of the GOP to through off others. That's all I mean. I know what they are doing with this. The Reps don't function from goals and policy, they move from strategy, organizations, and power moves: psychology.
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    • Author by historygeek001 (August 26, 2009 11:36 am ET)
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      The repubs don't care about health care reform. They only care about power and profits.
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    • Author by themidnightreview.com (August 26, 2009 12:38 pm ET)
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      I was happy to see that this same question was asked at John McCain's town hall. His response was that they simply did not do it, but that he wasn't going to dwell on the past.

      Another questioner asked why this matter is only raised during elections, in which McCain touted his reaching across the aisle (minus the term "maverick"), but if he reached across the aisle, then why did this not get done?

      The GOP had been for reducing spending for Medicare, but now they are fighting tooth and nail to defend it. To simply say "I don't know why we did not do it" is unacceptable, and whoever says that obviously does not want to take blame or point fingers. There is zero accountability for their actions.

      What people should be asking is what reform the Republicans want, and specific examples or legislation that they plan to offer to make this reform work, and if they don't do it, then we know that they are just dragging their feet and pandering for votes, which is what they are doing, trying to scare the elderly (who are represented by one of the strongest lobbies).

      People 60 and older make up 23% of the voters, with 51% of that age group voting Republican in the previous election. The younger the demographic, the greater the shift is for the Democratic vote, which leads me to believe that the Republicans are consistently being marginalized, and if they are not careful, can increasingly become a minority party in future elections.
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    • Author by john.schmidt8348 (August 26, 2009 1:04 pm ET)
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      No, no, no. The GOP did reform the health care (industry) when they had Congressional majorities and the White House. Haven't you seen the dramatic rise in profits for the largest health insurers that took place between 2001 and 2007? That is their idea of reform. That is change they can believe in.
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    • Author by jj.milano4855 (August 26, 2009 1:12 pm ET)
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      I guess if you accept the premise of the question that the Federal government needs to fix the healthcare system, then yes, the Republicans dropped the ball. But there are many people who feel that the "fix" will in fact break the system. I am quite confident that if the HR3200 passes as written, we will see a massive shift toward a socialized state where the Federal government provides more and more of every aspect of our lives. From education, lunches, housing, employment, and with HR3200, 20% of the economy will now be controlled directly by the Fed. What Chairman Steele should have told Gretta was the reason the GOP didn't "fix" healthcare was it's not the Federal government's business. My guess is that you will not be happy with the "fix" that's coming.
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (August 26, 2009 1:15 pm ET)
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        Elections matter. Democrats were voted in to push their agenda. We're driving the bus now.
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (August 26, 2009 2:10 pm ET)
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        OOohh Noos!
        Barns burned down, close the door!
        The government is involved with education, food and diet, housing, employment. If the programs are not defunded, or have some neocon inserted into leadership positions they generally perform well. Provide for the common good ring any bells?
        Promoting the status quo will have us on average paying $12,000 a year for or health system. Else where in the world that maxes at arround $3000. The stiffling of our economy that will result from this will firmly place us into a third world economic status. We might create a few more billionairs along the way, so I guess its all good.
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (August 26, 2009 4:21 pm ET)
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        I love this nonsense. At least you have the guts to say it. The Republicans do not believe the healthcare insurance industry needs fixing. I am glad you at least said it. Now, if you could only be even more honest and admit you want Social Security and Medicare done away with.
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        • Author by rtwmd1230 (August 26, 2009 6:06 pm ET)
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          Based on the way the old geezers have been acting at these town halls, how about we shake things up a little:

          Medicare for everyone until you reach 65, then you have to go buy your insurance on the private market?
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