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Ignoring coordination, Luntz says disruptors are "average citizens," "angry grass roots protestors," not Astroturf

August 27, 2009 9:04 am ET

From the August 27 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

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Previously:

"Word Doctor" Luntz on WH's description of town hall protestors: "language that they are using ... is pure hate"

After declaring town hall protestors "real" and "organic," Hannity now "promise[s]" to direct listeners to future meetings

Conservative media examine video of town hall disruptions, declare disruptors "real"

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (August 27, 2009 9:27 am ET)
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      Oh, I see the banner now " FOX News " from those who are trying to elevate Beck to a "hero of the United States " status.
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    • Author by The_Cat (August 27, 2009 9:41 am ET)
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      "Barrack Obama has lost all support among Republicans..." Mr. Luntz, it seems to me that he can't lose what he never had. They declared on January 20th that they were the party of No. Doesn't matter what our President proposes, they have already made up their mind.

      It's fascinating to watch someone who apparently knows as much about the health reform debate as he does about health reform itself trying to rewrite history. Are -all- the protesters organized and bused into town halls with scripts on how to disrupt them? No. In the beginning, however, they were in fact an astroturf campaign. The fact that it has taken on a life of it's own, thanks to endless media cycles devoted to it and scare tactics in both the media and from Republican elected officials only points out why astroturfing is used in the first place: because it can generate an actual, if completely misinformed, groundswell. It's just another form of marketing, after all. Marketing is lying, and the conservatives have proven themselves very adept at that.
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      • Author by MickD (August 27, 2009 9:52 am ET)
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        Rewriting history is the only think a Repub can contribute to the debate.
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    • Author by scubcap647 (August 27, 2009 10:18 am ET)
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      Yeah. They're all natural, 100% grass roots. So what corporations like United Health Group have sponsored events to get these people together and inform them, then charter buses to take them to town hall events around their regions and suggest they disrupt the speaker who is there to try and give them a better understanding of what kind of things are in the health reform legislation. Who cares if many of these people are told that the constitution is being violated yet nobody can find one part of the constitution that is being violated. Who cares is half of these nuts bring their guns to the protests to inform the government that they will defend their 2nd Amendment rights (even though nobody is at the town hall to discuss the 2nd Amendment). It's still real grass roots organizing there. These people are crazy. They like to play word games. Of course the people are real americans. I even believe that many of them are really upset. However, I don't believe this is grass roots because the anger is manufactured by false information and propaganda. Many of these people are looking for a reason to let their anger rise to the surface and they are taking this opportunity to feed their fears in order to let that happen.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (August 27, 2009 11:28 am ET)
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        Well, they do have one thing in common with grass roots - their flora-level intelligence.
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      • Author by The_Cat (August 27, 2009 5:32 pm ET)
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        It became even more imperative for conservatives who support private health insurance to disrupt town halls when they realized that when the facts of the proposed reforms are explained to the average person, a majority of Americans are in favor of it.

        Danger! Danger Will Robinson! Free thinkers! Oh no! Misinform! Misinform! Disrupt! Lie! Obfuscate!
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    • Author by John Paradox (August 27, 2009 10:25 am ET)
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      "angry grass roots protestors"

      Yes, they are angry astroturfers protesting the grass roots.
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    • Author by Indy (August 27, 2009 1:33 pm ET)
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      "Word Doctor"? Luntz is a "Word Propagandist". The use of the word "doctor" implies healing. It's time to take off the proverbial gloves with these right wing rodeo clowns.
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