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Referencing Wellstone memorial, Beck suggests Democrats "exploit[ing]" Kennedy's death

August 27, 2009 9:42 am ET

From the August 27 edition of Premiere Radio Network's The Glenn Beck Program:

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Previously: Conservative media invoke Wellstone memorial smear in predicting politicization of Kennedy's death

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (August 27, 2009 9:49 am ET)
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      You are a very sick man and it shows in your face.
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    • Author by MickD (August 27, 2009 9:51 am ET)
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      The Rove Rangers at the Heritage Foundation must have been on 24/7 shifts since EMK's death. The body isn't even cold and Becky is spewing.

      How does one "exploit" a Kennedy? They have been so exploited, spit out and kicked around, that to suggest any further exploitation is simply g-dam stupid.
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    • Author by scubcap647 (August 27, 2009 10:06 am ET)
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      That's funny. Since when has honoring a man by mentioning the achievements of his life been seen as exploiting his death. Should people not say anything at all? It seems to me that Kennedy's death has become a republican talking point more so than a democrat talking point. Can we say projection? How can these people look themselves in the mirror. They spend decades constantly bringing up Chappaquiddick whenever Ted Kennedy was mentioned but once he dies they pretend like it's the evil liberals that want to destroy his legacy and dishonor him. The new talking point seems to be "Ted would not want a public option". These people have no sense of humanity it seems.
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    • Author by mjh (August 27, 2009 10:07 am ET)
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      Referencing Wellstone memorial, Beck suggests Democrats "exploit[ing]" Kennedy's death



      No doubt, Becky was equally upset at the GOP/rightwing expolitation of Reagan's death {his tribute/memorial/state funeral services lasted nearly a week} -- right?

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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (August 27, 2009 11:25 am ET)
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        A week?! Considering how much he was referenced by both sides in the last election, I'm not sure they ever stopped! LOL
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      • Author by TheSchaef (August 27, 2009 11:40 am ET)
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        Well, what nationally-impactful legislation did Congress pass because "it's what Reagan would have wanted"?

        And if they don't pass massive health care for Ted's sake, then you can say he was wrong.

        The audio of the Wellstone "memorial", however, is undeniably chilling.
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        • Author by mjh (August 27, 2009 1:54 pm ET)
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          Well, what nationally-impactful legislation did Congress pass because "it's what Reagan would have wanted"?


          Well, there was that little thing about tax cuts for the wealthy . . .

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          • Author by Vincenzo (August 27, 2009 2:06 pm ET)
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            Low blow mjh, using facts like that.
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          • Author by TheSchaef (August 27, 2009 2:28 pm ET)
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            Reagan died June 5, 2004.

            Name the tax cuts passed in his name in the wake of that.
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            • Author by mjh (August 27, 2009 3:50 pm ET)
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              Well now, Schaeffy, make up your mind . . . you asked what legislation Congress passed "because its what he [Reagan] would have wanted" -- not for legislation that specifically bore his name.

              I mention the tax cuts for the wealthy that Dumbya enacted 'cause, well, Reagan did the same thing.

              In any case, if the 2008 GOP presidential debates were any indication, Republicans definitely invoked him in spirit, if not on paper.

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              • Author by TheSchaef (August 27, 2009 3:56 pm ET)
                   
                I put that in quotes for a reason. I am having a discussion about passing legislation in honor of a recently deceased politician. If you're having any discussion other than that, you're taking my statements out of context. I hope not deliberately.

                Now, if you're interested in doing this civilly and rationally, please answer my question.
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        • Author by rms (August 27, 2009 6:20 pm ET)
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          "The audio of the Wellstone "memorial", however, is undeniably chilling."

          That's simply not true. The memorial was over three hours long, highly emotional, and you are pretending that a minute or two out of it is what it was all about. Somehow I doubt that you have heard anything other than a couple of Fox "News" highlights.
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    • Author by neon desert (August 27, 2009 10:22 am ET)
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      I've heard public access cable programs from Billings Montana that were better produced than that train wreck of a bit.

      Anyway... So exploiting Kennedy's death to promote a cause for which Kennedy lived - health care coverage for every U.S. citizen - is bad, but exploiting the ignorance of bubba-Americans for a living is virtuous? Glen, your message confuses me and makes me cry.
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    • Author by New Frontier (August 27, 2009 10:31 am ET)
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      Right, Mr. 912. It's almost as bad as exploiting Kennedy's death for the sake of filling air time with a lame radio show bit that will keep the spittly haters tuned-in.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (August 27, 2009 10:37 am ET)
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      It's gonna be fun to watch Glenn Beck crash and burn...because you know it's coming. I have no sympathy for this whatsoever for this fear-mongering, divisive man.
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    • Author by pros2pros2940 (August 27, 2009 10:50 am ET)
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      Hmmm....the right talking about exploiting anything is a hoot.

      It would take a week to list all of the dog whistle stuff they exploit along with 9/11, WOT and so on.....
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    • Author by nkurland (August 27, 2009 11:08 am ET)
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      In a sane world, Beck would be the absolute last person to complain about exploitation.
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      • Author by Vincenzo (August 27, 2009 1:02 pm ET)
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        In a sane world Beck would be taking my orders at Applebees. Sorry all you Applebees workers.
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    • Author by shaggles (August 27, 2009 11:13 am ET)
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      And just like when Senator Wellstone died it's the Republicans doing the exploiting.
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      • Author by puppienrainbows (August 27, 2009 11:25 am ET)
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        Republicans, as they entered the stadium to pay their respects to Paul Wellstone, were roundly booed. Can we expect this childish behaviour, again, at Kennedy's memorial? Of course we can! Were Democrats heckled at Reagan's memorial? Nope!
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        • Author by shaggles (August 27, 2009 11:43 am ET)
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          A couple of hundred people out of more than 20,000 participated in that. I would say "roundly booed" is a gross overstatement. There were also a couple of Dem speakers who went over the line, which is what the media picked up on and the Reps exploited to help put Coleman in office, but the memorial was for the most part respectful of the Senator and all in attendance.
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        • Author by dmhack (August 27, 2009 11:50 am ET)
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          Puppies, this is the same old line the right has been pushing for years.

          You know, if you actually wanted some background on the event (and I know you don't, but let's pretend), you might think of reading Al Franken's piece. Unlike Becky and the other droolers, the Senator was actually at the event and gives a pretty fair and balanced account of it.
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          • Author by TheSchaef (August 27, 2009 12:08 pm ET)
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            The same Al Franken that insisted on getting into a shouting match with Bill O'Reilly about whether he screwed up the name of a journalism award or deliberately lied about it?
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            • Author by shaggles (August 27, 2009 12:31 pm ET)
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              As I recall the only one shouting was Bill.
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              • Author by TheSchaef (August 27, 2009 12:46 pm ET)
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                "YOU DID *NOT*!... MIS-SPEAK!!!"

                Don't tell me what I did and did not hear and see.
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                • Author by shaggles (August 27, 2009 3:24 pm ET)
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                  How is 'As I recall the only one shouting was Bill.' telling you what you did or dod not hear and see?
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                  • Author by TheSchaef (August 27, 2009 3:34 pm ET)
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                    You're disputing the facts that a). Franken invited the argument and b). Franken engaged in the shouting match. I watched the recording of the encounter. It happened exactly as I told it. To dispute that is to dispute my telling of it. It's not that difficult.
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              • Author by magnolialover (August 27, 2009 12:48 pm ET)
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                Exactly. And Franken, as per usual, was right.
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                • Author by TheSchaef (August 27, 2009 1:07 pm ET)
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                  Franken was right that O'Reilly deliberately used the wrong name for the journalism award? Despite the fact that when he called to question O'Reilly's claim, O'Reilly said "hold on, let me check", called him back, and said "actually, it was this award"?

                  So O'Reilly, according to Franken's account, went and checked, called him back, and told him directly that he got the name wrong, and that proves that he did it on purpose? Really? Cause it sounds to me like he got the name wrong, and owned up to his mistake directly to Franken, only to have it thrown back in his face all over again.

                  And all of this misses the entire point, why is this the kind of stuff about which people are stomping and snorting? The name of a journalism award? REALLY?

                  It's just like griping about the place he grew up. I visited Hofstra about three years ago, and Hempstead is just a couple miles past Queens, both of which are less than five miles from O'Reilly's home. If you actually drove around that part of Long Island for a while, you wouldn't dare to claim that his childhood home was in any way lavish. But the larger point is, who cares? Why do people waste time going around screaming about "oh this guy said Peabody instead of Polk" and "this guy said he was a czar when actually it was just elevated to a cabinet-level position" and so on. Seriously! It is because guys like Franken are happy to go to war over inconsequential matters that I place no stock in the things he says.
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                  • Author by mjh (August 27, 2009 2:19 pm ET)
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                    "Seriously! It is because guys like Franken are happy to go to war over inconsequential matters that I place no stock in the things he says."



                    "Inconsequential matters" = anything Al Franken is proven to be right about

                    Funny how YOU are willing to put stock in something Bill O'Reilly -- who has proven to be less than factual on "inconsequential matters" such as his childhood home or the type of journalism award he's won - says.

                    If he can't tell the truth on such supposedly mundane matters, how am I supposed to believe him on more important ones?

                    Why, the next thing you know, O'Reilly might cite a fictional publication in talking about the effectiveness of his boycott against France . . .

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                    • Author by TheSchaef (August 27, 2009 2:29 pm ET)
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                      How has Franken proven either of those two points?
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                    • Author by fairliberal (August 29, 2009 5:02 pm ET)
                         
                      "Inconsequential matters" = anything Al Franken is proven to be right about

                      Franken also claimed to have fact checked Jeremy Glick's comments to O'Reilly and claimed they were factual. I believe he said that he had a dozen or so fact checkers. Well , Glick's ststement was dead wrong. But of course Franken claimed it was right.

                      But it is very easily proven wrong. Glick claimed that Bush the elder was responsible for training and supporting the mujahadeen " beginning in the Carter administration and continuing and escalating" while Bush was head of the CIA. That is just flat out wrong.

                      Way to go Al!
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                  • Author by LKL (August 27, 2009 2:58 pm ET)
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                    Actually, it wasn't just getting the name wrong. As I recall, at various points Bill claimed that Inside Edition had won multiple Peabody awards (it hadn't), implied that he was still working for the show when it did win a Polk award (he wasn't), denied that he had ever said that IE won a Peabody (he had), and then went ballistic when all of this was pointed out.
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                    • Author by TheSchaef (August 27, 2009 3:22 pm ET)
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                      And according to Franken's own account, he admitted directly to Franken that he had been wrong.

                      I'm still waiting to hear how wrong automatically means lie, how this is actually a matter of any consequence other than Franken supposedly being right, and how using Franken's account plus my own experience equates to "putting stock in something O'Reilly says".
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                    • Author by mjh (August 27, 2009 3:52 pm ET)
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                      Thank you.

                      Gracious, Shaeffy, re-read your own post . . .

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                  • Author by rms (August 27, 2009 6:27 pm ET)
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                    You conveniently left out the fact that Inside Edition won the Polk's AFTER O'REILLY LEFT THE SHOW.

                    Small detail, I know.

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            • Author by MickD (August 27, 2009 12:48 pm ET)
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              That's Senator Al Franken to you. Bwah-hah-ha-ha.
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    • Author by rickyd2000 (August 27, 2009 11:25 am ET)
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      Glen Beck is right, exploitation of Tedcare is at hand. The progressives are so underhanded I wouldn't put it past them.
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      • Author by mjh (August 27, 2009 12:48 pm ET)
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        So -- now we've gone from "Obamacare" to "Tedcare."

        Who's doing the exploiting, again?

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      • Author by MickD (August 27, 2009 12:49 pm ET)
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        Yes, Beck is "right." It's very admirable that you'd follow a loon like that </snark>.
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      • Author by magnolialover (August 27, 2009 12:50 pm ET)
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        How is it exploitive since health care reform was something that Kennedy worked for his entire life (among other things), and something he wanted to be seen through?

        It's not. It's called doing it for the nation, and for Kennedy.
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        • Author by fishergirlusmc (August 27, 2009 1:02 pm ET)
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          Let's all pray that if Kennedycare is passed it works out better than his immigration legislation that he wrote way back when. We can all see how that worked out for our country.
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          • Author by mjh (August 27, 2009 2:37 pm ET)
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            Um, fishygirl, if you're referring to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, it was actually written by Emmanuel Cellar and co-sponsored by Philip Hart, though Kennedy heavily supported it.

            Anyway, seeing as the Act passed in both houses and was signed into law, I'd say it was more successful than the immigration legislation proposed by John McCain -- you know, the same legislation he denounced during his presidential campaign . . .

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      • Author by Truth Crusader (August 27, 2009 12:59 pm ET)
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        Actually, I believe it was the right that was first out of the gate on this...although I can't be certain. At what point were Republicans saying "You know, if only Teddy were at the negotiating table, we'd have a bill by now."

        And in other news, while yesterday the brain-trust at FoxNation saw fit to not allow comments on the link to the story of Senator Kennedy's death, knowing what vile, hateful, disgusting people they have posting on that site, today's comment thread about this very subject was predictably vile, hateful and disgusting. So much so that as of a few moments ago they've turned off the comment function. Not before it was filled with 200+ comments that REALLY shed light on what the right wing noise (read: hate) machine has created. Don't stop by unless you've got a strong stomach. It's disgraceful.
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        • Author by TheSchaef (August 27, 2009 1:31 pm ET)
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          *cough* Huffington Post *cough*
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          • Author by mjh (August 27, 2009 4:01 pm ET)
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            Here, Shaeffy, take a Hall's cough drop . . .

            What's HuffPo got to do with this? I just clicked on their homepage and see three blog posts and several articles on Kennedy -- some of which have HUNDREDS of comments . . .

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            • Author by TheSchaef (August 27, 2009 4:12 pm ET)
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              Sorry, I just thought this was the thread to pile on people who spew vile, hateful and disgusting vitriol.

              But I guess that old double-standard just keeps on rolling...
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    • Author by Midnight Kevin (August 27, 2009 12:38 pm ET)
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      I assume that it was okay for the Republicans to hold their national convention in New York City in 2004, highly politicizing the event and exploiting the deaths of 2,819 Americans.
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      • Author by fishergirlusmc (August 27, 2009 1:18 pm ET)
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        Did you ever consider that they held their convention in NYC to help out our economy? By the way your precious democrats were also trying to have their convention here. Don't be such a hypocrite.
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        • Author by snoopy (August 27, 2009 1:23 pm ET)
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          They were only interested in exploiting 9-11 for personal gain. Why do you think they are now fighting making 9-11 a national holiday? It's because Obama is taking their fundraising party away.
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        • Author by mjh (August 27, 2009 2:13 pm ET)
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          "Did you ever consider that they held their convention in NYC to help out our economy? By the way your precious democrats were also trying to have their convention here. Don't be such a hypocrite."



          Actually, NYC was one of a list of the 34 largest US cities the DNC sent letters to inviting them to host the convention; they were one of ten that submitted bids, one of five that were visited by the DNC, but not one of two that got a return visit -- so that's a bit of a stretch there.

          In any case, while holding the RNC in NYC undoubtedly helped out the hotel, restaurant, and escort businesses {for a few days, anyway}, I submit that if they REALLY wanted to help out the economy, not spending $12 billion in Iraq would've been better . . .

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        • Author by LKL (August 27, 2009 3:01 pm ET)
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          "Did you ever consider that they held their convention in NYC to help out our economy?"

          Wow - do you seriously think that's why??
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        • Author by Midnight Kevin (August 28, 2009 4:26 pm ET)
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          I would have to admit that they are not my "precious democrats". I am actually a Republican, and I had voted for President Bush in both elections.

          I am not saying that Democrats are free from political sin, but both sides are guilty of capitalizing on a situation. Conservative commentators seem to forget that, and are quick to point a finger but hesitant to accept any blame.

          I study business and politics, and I don't take things at face value. I prefer to know the full meaning of situations.

          I am sure that there was a certain amount of business to be gained from the convention, but considering in 2004 the economy showed the highest amount of growth since 1999, any gains would have been short term and not extremely beneficial to the city.
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    • Author by Doug-Life (August 27, 2009 1:05 pm ET)
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      never let a crisis (or tragedy) go to waste.
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    • Author by nkurland (August 27, 2009 1:47 pm ET)
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      How exactly is this exploitation? If I'm not mistaken, Kennedy chaired the Senate HELP committe, the exact same committee which drafted what is essentially the Senate version of the America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009. But whatever you do Glenn, for the love of God don't look at his record! Don't look at his vote for the Social Security Act of 1965, and avert your eyes from his role in the creation of S-CHIP. Looking at his record would mean being faced with inconvenient facts, and we all know those are simply intolerable for this charade you call news.
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      • Author by TheSchaef (August 27, 2009 3:36 pm ET)
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        It's exploitation if you decide that, if you can't get it passed on the merits of the bill itself, you'll just incite people to "do it for Ted".

        It's that simple.
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