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Beck claims Obama's "civilian national security force" is "what Hitler did with the SS," "what Saddam Hussein" did

August 27, 2009 6:11 pm ET

From the August 27 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

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    • Author by jjamele2880 (August 27, 2009 6:18 pm ET)
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      Yeah, but did Genghis Khan do it? How about Stalin? Or FDR? Did Darth Vader? How about Voldemort?

      I wish someone would pay me millions of dollars a year to spout BS. Maybe I should have devoted my youth to binge drinking and freebasing; sure worked well for Becky, didn't it?
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    • Author by achorn316 (August 27, 2009 6:18 pm ET)
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      He lost it at the end of his show saying "im tired of being a victim, tired of being a sheep" and says he will give his followers a "plan of action" tomorrow.

      If I were the secret service, I'd be watching very intently. We all know what the right's REAL plan is for Obama.......
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      • Author by jstephens005 (August 27, 2009 9:38 pm ET)
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        Oh, Oh, please share!

        I am a conservative...I would LOVE to hear the hateful crap you are implying! Please, share with me your wisdom.
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        • Author by achorn316 (August 28, 2009 1:15 am ET)
             
          hit play on the video above.

          thats plenty of "hateful crap". I dont have to imply anything.
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        • Author by ex-punk (August 28, 2009 1:58 am ET)
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          Figure it out for yourself or do you have to have someone do all your thinking for you?
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      • Author by Oberman=J@ck@$$ (August 28, 2009 4:05 am ET)
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        We all know what the right's REAL plan is for Obama.......

        Yes indeed, we do know what the REAL plan is: for him and the rest of his radical socialist horde to be looking for new jobs in 2012.
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    • Author by blesscurse (August 27, 2009 6:23 pm ET)
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      Thus, Obama's motivation and methods compared to Hitler and Saddam Hussein. Cool trick, since Obama is also supposedly a Communist. Beck plays the game disingenuously: "I'm just posing the question...." "I'm just trying to find answers...." He even has "liberal Democrat" Pat Caddell on for "balance." A bit like having Dick Morris on to portray the Clinton's side of things.
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      • Author by Meridian (August 28, 2009 8:19 am ET)
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        Have you ever heard of the "National Socialist" party in Germany? That's the long version of "Nazi." You know, what Hitler was? Communism and socialism are very similar. So to say that calling Obama a communist is anti-thetical to calling him "like Hitler"...is misinformed. Neither may be true; but they are very similar.
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    • Author by rebopine (August 27, 2009 6:25 pm ET)
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      I simply can't understand how an intelligent person could watch his show for anything other than the entertainment factor. (As in "This guy is crazy I'm LMAO!)

      It says a lot about his audience.
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      • Author by NoNannyNeeded (August 27, 2009 10:05 pm ET)
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        Check out the rating. #1 with over 3 million viewers. Where's Olbermann? He says he's #1 in the ages under 35. Fox killed him in 25-54 catagory. you also need to take away the Fox views because they are "tin foil hatters, conspiracy theorists, paranoids and racists." Apparently after that he is #1. WOW!

        Desparation or denial-which one is it?
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      • Author by Brian (August 29, 2009 10:37 am ET)
           
        I like Beck and think he's on to something. I'm an intelligent person - more so than most who stand to benefit disproportionately from socialist policies for being not-as-intellignet, or more appropriately, not as willing to work hard for what they get. His audience has all sorts - just like the audience of a show or two you might like...Kieth Olberman?. Olberman is a mug too. He obviosly leans in a diretion other'n Beck.

        To all you intelligent people with too much time on your hands. Watch both and see who's right in the long run. Glenn's been on the money for the past coupla years.
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    • Author by marco21 (August 27, 2009 6:26 pm ET)
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      Whoever said wingnuts are lazy?

      Hitler.
      Fascism.
      Socialism.
      Tyranny.

      Scary, scary scary BOO!!!


      Every single day. Same ole. Same ole.

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    • Author by Marker (August 27, 2009 6:28 pm ET)
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      Beck, whose gonna advertise on your propaganda show if you keep this up.
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    • Author by Kakio (August 27, 2009 6:33 pm ET)
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      Former Army Staff Sergeant? Is that Beck's subject matter expert? LMAOROTF
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (August 27, 2009 6:34 pm ET)
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      Well, Glenn, we are going to need an additional security force... considering how depleted our military will be after we encourage our troops to commit suicide so we won't have to pay their health care.
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      • Author by MiddleLeft (August 27, 2009 6:49 pm ET)
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        That's even nuttier than Glenn.
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      • Author by snoopy (August 27, 2009 6:53 pm ET)
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        Hey, what a great idea! We can encourage our soldiers to do suicide by attack! Whenever they want to kick off, just jump the wall and charge an enemy position! Not only is it cheaper, every now and then they might cap off an enemy or two and earn a medal!
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (August 27, 2009 6:44 pm ET)
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      Keith was wrong. The week off for Beck was a new instructions from Rupert Murdoch
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    • Author by blesscurse (August 27, 2009 6:52 pm ET)
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      What if we descend into anarhy?
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      • Author by christopher howard (August 27, 2009 7:12 pm ET)
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        Don't worry; the oligarhs will protect us.
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        • Author by pragmatic-progressive (August 27, 2009 11:17 pm ET)
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          *spewing* HA! That was the funniest thing I've read in weeks. Thank you!
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    • Author by worrierking (August 27, 2009 7:29 pm ET)
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      Where the hell did they get this guy?

      A disconnect to the warrior class? We now have a warrior class.

      This country has always been defended by it's citizen class, who picked up arms, faced our enemies, and afterwards went back to civilian life.

      This warrior class stuff is just plain wrong. These military people are being used by the Chickenhawks on the right to fulfill the neo-con dream.

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    • Author by mishelley (August 27, 2009 7:51 pm ET)
         
      I have to wait until tomorrow for the action plan?
      But I want it noooooowwwwww!

      It's gonna be a sleepless night...
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    • Author by dfahrb458720 (August 27, 2009 8:29 pm ET)
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      How about the last administration and Blackwater?
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    • Author by jstephens005 (August 27, 2009 9:52 pm ET)
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      OK Progressives. Here is the SIMPLE, SIMPLE question that Glenn Beck posed on his show:

      What did Obama mean when he said, "We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set...We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

      Simple question. NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON on this site, in the media, or in the administration has ever addressed it. Not one person in the media has asked Obama about it.

      Have some courage, progressives. Address the question directly. That is what Glenn Beck is doing on his show.

      Or, you can continue your current tactics...make fun of people who have concerns...belittle them...call them racists...call them crazy...but never, NEVER answer the question.
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      • Author by dr. matt (August 27, 2009 10:42 pm ET)
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        Here's the rest of the quote, that Becky left out, you inbred hick. Let us know if you need help with the big words
        "We will enlist our veterans to find jobs and support for other vets, and to be there for our military families. And we're going to grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been shuttered and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy. We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set.

        "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. We need to use technology to connect people to service. We'll expand USA Freedom Corps to create online networks where American can browse opportunities to volunteer."


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        • Author by dr. matt (August 27, 2009 10:43 pm ET)
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          Here's some more reality for you, teabagging dolt:

          http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_obama_planning_a_gestapo-like_civilian_national.html
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          • Author by dr. matt (August 27, 2009 10:44 pm ET)
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            Here's a bit more, you anti-American terrorist:

            Today, AmeriCorps -- our nation's network of local, state, and national service programs -- has 75,000 slots. And I know firsthand the quality of these programs. My wife, Michelle, once left her job at a law firm and at City Hall to be a founding director of an AmeriCorps program in Chicago that trains young people for careers in public service. And these programs invest Americans in their communities and their country. They tap America's greatest resource -- our citizens.

            And that's why as president, I will expand AmeriCorps to 250,000 slots and make that increased service a vehicle to meet national goals like providing health care and education, saving our planet and restoring our standing in the world, so that citizens see their efforts connected to a common purpose. People of all ages, stations, and skills will be asked to serve. Because when it comes to the challenges we face, the American people are not the problem -- they are the answer.

            So we are going to send -- we're going to send more college graduates to teach and mentor our young people. We'll call on Americans to join an Energy Corps to conduct renewable energy and environmental cleanup projects in their neighborhoods all across the country. We will enlist our veterans to find jobs and support for other vets, to be there for our military families. And we're going to grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been shuttered, and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy.

            We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.

            We need to use technology to connect people to service. We'll expand USA Freedom Corps to create online networks where Americans can browse opportunities to volunteer. You'll be able to search by category, time commitment, and skill sets; you'll be able to rate service opportunities, build service networks, and create your own service pages to track your hours and activities. This will empower more Americans to craft their own service agenda, and make their own change from the bottom up.

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            • Author by Disputed Zone (August 27, 2009 11:17 pm ET)
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              Here is the youtube video of the whole speech.

              Anybody who watches it and the Beck clip above and doesn't realize that Beck is a lying PoS is a lost cause.
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            • Author by christopher howard (August 27, 2009 11:19 pm ET)
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              "Simple question. NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON on this site, in the media, or in the administration has ever addressed it. Not one person in the media has asked Obama about it."

              Um, because anyone with half a brain who saw the actual speech (as opposed to Beck's narrowly clipped portion of it) would know that he was not talking about building a new bloody SS. You mention Beck as someone with "concerns" but that doesn't describe Beck at all. What Beck really is is an old-fashioned lying demagogue.
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          • Author by jstephens005 (August 27, 2009 11:26 pm ET)
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            Dumbass, no one, including Beck, has said Obama is building a gestapo. In fact, if you watch the show, he said that Obama is NOT building the an army, but simply questions what he meant by the quote.

            Better to attack the character of anyone who questions, huh?

            Too bad you can't answer the question.
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            • Author by dr. matt (August 27, 2009 11:29 pm ET)
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              Better to attack the character of anyone who questions, huh?
              by jstephens005



              Dumbass,
              by jstephens005

              You hicks are not good at this.
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              • Author by christopher howard (August 27, 2009 11:52 pm ET)
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                "Dumbass, no one, including Beck, has said Obama is building a gestapo..."

                Beck (referencing Obama's speech): "This is what Hitler did with the SS."

                Practically every Beck show now has the requisite Obama - Hitler comparison (usually accompanied by the disclaimer that he is not comparing Obama to Hitler). Obama was the subject of the segment, and Beck and his guest are clearly drawing a comparison here. You'd have to be brain dead to miss it.

                Or, are you trying to throw in the word gestapo (as opposed to the Schutzstaffel) to confuse the issue?
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                • Author by princeofwheels (August 28, 2009 1:23 am ET)
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                  Looks like jsteven got the nod from mom that he can leave the basement.....
                  MrHoward, how can you dispute this person with facts? No one informed him that the gestapo sort of links things to Hitler..and my question is, if Beck is sooo smart and adored by his sheep, shouldn't Beck know that Gestapo/Hitler are related.

                  Mr. jstephen...answer this question...why do you always spout nonsense, get some facts that ruin your nonsense and then you slither away. My recommendation to the others posters here is to read your "questions", send you some facts and ignore you from that point on. Nothing personal..it is just that they may run out of ink in their keyboards. And it would be a waste continuing with you. By the way, I don't care what you think or say..I'm like that.
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            • Author by worrierking (August 28, 2009 7:14 am ET)
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              You re right. Beck didn't mention or compare anyone to the Gestapo. That would be crazy.

              He said it was the SS.

              Just another one of his suppositions. He doesn't believe it to be true but only that it's a possibility.

              Sort of like me believing that a Beck fan has the ability to think his or her way out of a paper bag.

              It could happen, I'm pretty sure.
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            • Author by blesscurse (August 28, 2009 7:44 am ET)
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              Beck's technique: Some people have suggested that jstephens is a child molester. I'm not saying he is a child molester; I'm just asking the question. Now on my blackboard, I am going to put a few phrases like "hangs out in playgrounds," "has been seen with children," "doesn't go to church" and a few other equally irrelevant things to make the most ignorant and suggestible among my viewers conclude that he probably is a child molester. But I'm just asking questions. On behalf of all the children.
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        • Author by jstephens005 (August 27, 2009 11:24 pm ET)
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          I have seen the entire speech. It does not address my question. Answer the question.

          The quote in question is in FULL context. Just as you have put it. The first part is NOT a qualifier for the second. It is in reference to other objectives. If not, then Obama can answer that himself.
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          • Author by dr. matt (August 27, 2009 11:28 pm ET)
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            You lost. You look stupid now. You hate reality, and you keep proving that, you terrorist hick scumbag.

            http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_obama_planning_a_gestapo-like_civilian_national.html

            Obama was not talking about a "security force" with guns or police powers. He was talking specifically about expanding AmeriCorps and the Peace Corps and the USA Freedom Corps, which is the volunteer initiative launched by the Bush administration after the attacks of 9/11, and about increasing the number of trained Foreign Service officers who populate U.S. embassies overseas.

            Here is the relevant portion of what Obama actually said:

            Obama, July 2, Colorado Springs, CO: [As] president I will expand AmeriCorps to 250,000 slots [from 75,000] and make that increased service a vehicle to meet national goals, like providing health care and education, saving our planet and restoring our standing in the world, so that citizens see their effort connected to a common purpose.

            People of all ages, stations and skills will be asked to serve. Because when it comes to the challenges we face, the American people are not the problem – they are the answer. So we are going to send more college graduates to teach and mentor our young people. We'll call on Americans to join an energy corps, to conduct renewable energy and environmental clean-up projects in their neighborhoods all across the country.

            We will enlist our veterans to find jobs and support for other vets, and to be there for our military families. And we're going to grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been shuttered and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy. We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set.

            We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. We need to use technology to connect people to service. We'll expand USA Freedom Corps to create online networks where American can browse opportunities to volunteer. You'll be able to search by category, time commitment and skill sets. You'll be able to rate service opportunities, build service networks, and create your own service pages to track your hours and activities.

            This will empower more Americans to craft their own service agenda and make their own change from the bottom up
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            • Author by princeofwheels (August 28, 2009 1:29 am ET)
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              Dr Matt,
              I read you post and would like to give two Prince thumbs up for your description of jsteppenwolf. "You lost. You look stupid now. You hate reality, and you keep proving that, you terrorist hick scumbag." I couldn't have said it better myself.
              jstephon doesn't want discussion. His Madden '06 probably went bad and it has nothing left to do.
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (August 28, 2009 4:37 pm ET)
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            So, Dr. Matt answers your questions. Proves you utterly false with facts and evidence. Proves that Beck was purposefully withholding context on the quotes he supplied to you. And you claim none of it answers your questions. Clearly you are a partisan sycophant that is not worthy of an adult debate.

            But, I am curious - what do you think he was referring to? You obviously do not believe he was talking about the expansion of the Peace Corps. So, I have to know how right-wing radio addled brains like yours work. What do you think Obama was talking about?
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        • Author by KLJTech (August 27, 2009 11:29 pm ET)
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          See there's the problem, the GOP just loves to leave out the part that doesn't serve it's purpose. Just like the GOP talking heads did when they said that Obama called the U.S "arrogant" and "dismissive" during a speech he gave in Strasbourg. For some odd reason they always leave out the rest of that speech, of course if they told the whole story then they wouldn't be able to make him out to be anti-American.

          Beck goes so far as to say that Obama hates white people.....Beck needs help.
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        • Author by Meridian (August 28, 2009 8:27 am ET)
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          And Hitler's original organizations for youth were essentially like the Boy Scouts. Which were then slowly turned to keeping track of and reporting on other citizens, then Jews, etc. in Nazi Germany. I don't believe Obama is intending this sort of use, per se, but having so many people working for a single organization (the government) and making it increasingly powerful limits the power of the individual. And it makes it very hard to resist, if the power of this monstrosity ends up in the wrong hands. Which is why this country prefers decentralized power, private and non-profit organizations, to do community service.
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      • Author by oxfords (August 27, 2009 10:42 pm ET)
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        If you are interested in what the President meant this link will help http://mediamatters.org/print/research/200811060010 . The quote you refer to is set with a larger context. Follow the link and you will be able to read what proceeded the Quote and what followed after. I think the President was suggesting that we needed more than a military response to the problems that face America. That citizens working in concert with Government could be deployed throughout the world. This form of soft power would build respect for America rather than fear/contempt of her.
        This makes sense to me, at least more sense than the President creating a private army.
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (August 27, 2009 11:31 pm ET)
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        You'll of course show us a link to that statement. I'm really interested in what was between "set" and "We've".
        There are many ways to accomplish foriegn security objectives. Course Shrub had no interest in persuing many of these options.
        Per your inuendo this would involve a civilian national security force. Something similar to Homeland Security? How would the legislature change its function to use it agressively overseas?
        Strange with the elimination of Habius Corpus, indefinite detention as a hostile combatant, warrentless wiretapping, Major criteria to work on reconstruction in Iraq being ones position on Roe vs Wade.
        Your friends and yourself have identified Obama as a major threat to this country and its form of government. Without ever defining that threat, showing evidence of said threat, and the mechanisms that are even now accomplishing this dread task.
        But you have concerns so I guess thats all irrelivent.
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      • Author by blesscurse (August 28, 2009 7:38 am ET)
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        http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_obama_planning_a_gestapo-like_civilian_national.html Beck did not even Google the issue to see a possible explanation. You didn't either.
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      • Author by congero6189599 (August 28, 2009 8:24 am ET)
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        jstepens you've been caught in a lie, actually you've been played by Beck for a fool. What was that G.Bush saying ,"fool me once shame on you , fool me twice..."you remember that? In other words you can't be fooled again, or can you ? You can continue your current tactics and be fooled again or you can leave the "dark side" and enter the light. Your move !
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    • Author by KLJTech (August 27, 2009 11:13 pm ET)
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      All these idiots do day in and day out is try to scare little old ladies and they're diminishing how evil Hitler truly was by comparing the president to him on a daily basis.

      I honestly don't know why anyone would watch or listen to these shows as they are the same thing everyday. Without looking at any show notes for tomorrow I bet that Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity and Savage will all say tomorrow that Obama is ruining our country and that done of them have ever seen anything like this before in their lives.
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    • Author by sdlnkicker4551 (August 27, 2009 11:20 pm ET)
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      Jstephens, Maybe he meant that our civilian police force needed to be more involved in receiving information about pending attacks, or having proper resources to deal with an attack. It seems to me that he is suggesting that the fight always comes down to the LOCAL level, and we have to be ready. Obama didn't have to tell me to keep my eyes open and look at my world in a different way after 9-11; and I do it to keep myself and my LOCAL community safe. I want a prepared and strong LOCAL awareness about national security. By jumping to the conclusions that Glenn Beck and you imply, quite frankly, makes you look paranoid and immature.
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (August 27, 2009 11:39 pm ET)
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      Major fail Glenn. The organization that handed Germany to Hitler was the SA. Once his position was secure they were thrown under the armored battalians of the SS.
      I don't see a point to point comparison of the SS with anybody. Consider someone willing to die of his combat injuries rather than chance having jewish blood used to treat him via transfusion.
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    • Author by Digital Jedi (August 28, 2009 1:33 am ET)
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      Here's one of those moments where Glenn is being honest about something to his detriment. "But you ARE comparing him to Sadaam".
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    • Author by roninkannushi1711 (August 28, 2009 1:42 am ET)
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      Fellow Matterers,

      G.Beck is a character. A well meaning, paranoid stricken, doom zealot with a supportive sovereign, fear. His allegiance is not to the Flag, nor Constitution, but the group. A self-serving group, (plenty of those), that fears losing control of what needs attention. It, be it.

      This issue is heath care. The industry yields profit. I support that. Capitalism is of benefit, to any society. Humans are a dispensable resource. Let them die, they will make more. Smart, from a business standpoint. Cold calculation works, on inanimate objects.

      Maximizing product benchmark,(human health), is ignored for the dollar, and cent. Cut off the dead, and dying. The client can not pay to break the bounds of debt, and dies. Death panel, or preexisting condition? Tomatoe, tomato. Keep them healthy, we can raise rates, living longer, and working means more invoices, statements, and return. Ka-ching!

      In 1991, Saddam Hussein did not lose confidence in his troops, they surrendered, or ran. The Republican Guard, (how fitting a coincidence), were the elite raw-meat eaters for Saddam Hussein, [footage I recall].

      G.Beck promotes brown shirts, and SS actions, by another name. The insurance industry sends people to disrupt town hall meetings. That is the Sabo,(wooden shoe:basis of sabotage). Disrupt progress with threat(s) and fear(s). G.Beck will use his world of words, to promote his jihad,(struggle). People caring rifles...where have I heard that before?

      The common denominator is a very simple formula.

      Addsum,
      Ronin Kannushi.
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    • Author by roninkannushi1711 (August 28, 2009 1:42 am ET)
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      Fellow Matterers,

      G.Beck is a character. A well meaning, paranoid stricken, doom zealot with a supportive sovereign, fear. His allegiance is not to the Flag, nor Constitution, but the group. A self-serving group, (plenty of those), that fears losing control of what needs attention. It, be it.

      This issue is heath care. The industry yields profit. I support that. Capitalism is of benefit, to any society. Humans are a dispensable resource. Let them die, they will make more. Smart, from a business standpoint. Cold calculation works, on inanimate objects.

      Maximizing product benchmark,(human health), is ignored for the dollar, and cent. Cut off the dead, and dying. The client can not pay to break the bounds of debt, and dies. Death panel, or preexisting condition? Tomatoe, tomato. Keep them healthy, we can raise rates, living longer, and working means more invoices, statements, and return. Ka-ching!

      In 1991, Saddam Hussein did not lose confidence in his troops, they surrendered, or ran. The Republican Guard, (how fitting a coincidence), were the elite raw-meat eaters for Saddam Hussein, [footage I recall].

      G.Beck promotes brown shirts, and SS actions, by another name. The insurance industry sends people to disrupt town hall meetings. That is the Sabo,(wooden shoe:basis of sabotage). Disrupt progress with threat(s) and fear(s). G.Beck will use his world of words, to promote his jihad,(struggle). People caring rifles...where have I heard that before?

      The common denominator is a very simple formula.

      Addsum,
      Ronin Kannushi.
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      • Author by christopher howard (August 28, 2009 7:27 am ET)
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        Nicely stated, Ronin, though I'd dispute that beck is "well meaning. Cynical opportunist is more my take on him.
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    • Author by clevenr (August 28, 2009 3:16 pm ET)
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      I didn't bother to read all the Beck bashing, but I don't see anyone providing a rational explanation for Obama's words (words used to have meaning):

      We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.

      I'm pretty sure he said a "CIVILIAN NATIONAL SECURITY FORCE" that is just as powerful and just as well-funded as the MILITARY???????

      Anyone?
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    • Author by cugagcmu805031 (August 28, 2009 4:42 pm ET)
         
      To fellow progressives posting on the MM site (and self):
      Let us stop posting rebuttals to rw talking points generated by Fuchs Noose entertainers' viewers. Their viewers are in the Charles Krauthammer imposed alternate reality. Let's spend our time working to accomplish progressive goals. We will not ignore them because we need to know what they are doing, but we need to focus our talents in places/areas that will improve the lives of all Americans. The FN viewers are beyond help.
      To cite GB's ratings numbers, in their opinion, proves something, and it certainly does, except it doesn't prove what should make them proud to be his viewers. They left out the part that all FN viewers fail when it comes to knowing the facts about U.S. policies. Let them tout the ratings. They can't cover up their ignorance on common issues/problems we face as a nation today, and this is just the way FN wants them. They will never realize that the information they receive is the highest form of propaganda and censorship in the history of American media.
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    • Author by wretched (August 30, 2009 12:59 am ET)
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      The executive branch of the national government was constitutionaly supposed to be balanced by the other two branches of government. A watchdog is needed to warn the people/republic of politicians in power, like Bush and now Obama, and to make us aware of these encroachments by the executive branch. Executive orders are all that is needed now to police other nations and may soon be, with the aid of a national security force, all that is needed to police our nation. It's too bad that 'we the people' don't see that this executive branch is being enabled with the power to declare martial law. An army at the disposal of a tyrant would take away our guaranteed rights of free speech and of the press. Who benefits from the centralization of power? Who loses? It is not a matter of left or right, liberal or conservative, republican or democrat, it is a matter of loss of liberty. Freedom is much better than captivity.
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