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Fox's Wallace on waterboarding: "[L]isten, I'm with Jack Bauer on this"

August 28, 2009 8:42 am ET

From the August 27 broadcast of WOR's The Steve Malzberg Show:

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Previously:

Conservatives continue to use Fox's 24 to support hawkish policies

Fox News greets alleged torture with antics

To buttress his support of torture, Beck airs clips from 24, Ollie North's 1987 testimony

Fox & Friends hosts, Beck cite fictional congressional testimony by 24's "Jack Bauer" in defense of torture

Memo to Chris Wallace: Military officials say Gitmo has been a "recruiting tool" for terrorists

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    • Author by bintx (August 28, 2009 8:44 am ET)
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      Um, Chris, Jack Bauer is a FICTIONAL character in a BS television show.
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      • Author by christopher howard (August 28, 2009 8:55 am ET)
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        So is Chris Wallace.
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      • Author by princeofwheels (August 28, 2009 9:13 am ET)
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        Chris, you sort of remind me of Tinkerbell on most things. Just floating through the air without a worry.
        Jack Bauer would waterboard you if he heard this. Maybe Beck can call Jack and get the two of you together.
        Zany is word to describe these nutz.
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        • Author by dmhack (August 28, 2009 9:22 am ET)
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          Chris is Fox tough---all talk.

          And, at the risk of repeating myself, I always laugh when these twits bring up the Jack Bauer character since the man playing the role is the grandson of the man who brought universal health care to Canada.
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      • Author by mjh (August 28, 2009 9:57 am ET)
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        Well, let's not forget: these were the same people who had issues with the sexual preference of SpongeBob SquarePants, and claimed one of the Teletubbies was homosexual.

        Wingnuts unable to distinguish fantasy from reality -- what else is new . . .

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        • Author by historygeek001 (August 28, 2009 1:55 pm ET)
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          I will never understand the reasoning here; they're actually citing A FICTIONAL CHARACTER, somebody that does not exist, has never existed, and will never exist, to justify torture. That's like saying we should throw a bucket of water on Dick Cheney because that melted the Wicked Witch of the East in the Wizard of Oz. It has no bearing on reality.
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      • Author by bintx (August 28, 2009 4:54 pm ET)
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        LOL! I got a thumbs down for telling the truth. LOL!!!!!!

        Somebody's being petulant!
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    • Author by DAWUSS (August 28, 2009 8:51 am ET)
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      ^ still waiting for Sean Hannity to be waterboarded
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    • Author by drake2b (August 28, 2009 9:18 am ET)
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      So sad, Mike Wallace must be so disappointed in his son.
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (August 28, 2009 11:49 am ET)
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        Maybe they need Maury Povich to do a show to verify paternity.
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    • Author by worrierking (August 28, 2009 9:21 am ET)
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      From what I've seen so far, the only ones in favor of torture, are those who seem to have a need to show the world how tough they are. To them, it's manly to support torture.

      They're nothing but weaklings, trying to convince themselves that they're courageous.

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    • Author by PurpleState (August 28, 2009 9:21 am ET)
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      It's just too bad that Jack Bauer himself isn't with Jack Bauer.

      I hear that they are going to cite Dr. Gregory House in order to combat health care reform.
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      • Author by vysotsky (August 28, 2009 9:56 am ET)
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        You may be right. I'm pretty sure Rush Limbaugh is with Dr. House with respect to policies concerning the availability of prescription opioids.
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (August 28, 2009 11:50 am ET)
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        I hear that they are going to cite Dr. Gregory House in order to combat health care reform.
        Or accuse the Democrats of playing the Marcus Welby "death card."
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    • Author by professor frink (August 28, 2009 9:42 am ET)
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      What's with these guys on Fox News and 24? It's like the show is their pornography or something. Do they not understand the word "fiction?" My list of people to buy dictionaries for is growing.

      O'Reilly jokes that if 24 "really want[s] big ratings," they'll waterboard Garofalo (and he compares himself to Bauer)
      Conservatives continue to use Fox's 24 to support hawkish policies
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    • Author by o rly (August 28, 2009 9:58 am ET)
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      More proof! Conservatives think 24 is real!!! wtf is wrong with them?
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    • Author by kjholsinger (August 28, 2009 10:03 am ET)
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      While I haven't watched "24" since Season 3, I vaguely remember that Jack Bauer would only torture people to save others...not to get justification for an illegal invasion of Iraq that legitimate intelligence couldn't justify.
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      • Author by mr. l (August 28, 2009 1:25 pm ET)
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        The show went downhill since season 3- you are not missing anything except bad scripts, ridiculous plots, and uninteresting characters.
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    • Author by mk3872 (August 28, 2009 10:05 am ET)
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      Right on, Chris! Me? I'm a regular workin' Joe. I'm with Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble on this one ...
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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (August 28, 2009 2:25 pm ET)
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        MK, you may be right that Fred & Barney would have been in the pro-torture camp, but you may want to consider some events that support a more peaceful approach.

        The Who's down in Whoville could have easily sent a posse up Who Mountain to hook some electrodes up to the Grinch's genitals, but they chose to avoid conflict and celebrate Christmas without the material goods.

        Medical records show clearly that the Grinch's heart grew three sizes that day, violence was avoided, and the two sides were able to reach a detente.

        In addition, the Grinch carved the roast beast.

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    • Author by rkallen09 (August 28, 2009 10:23 am ET)
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      Why is it that no one is asking the very important question, what if an innocent man has been tortured? What if the interrogators were unable to gleam any information from a suspect and that suspect turned out to be innocent of any crimes or at the very least, so low on the totem pole that no uselful information can be obtained? Has a crime not been committed? Do we excuse all the other torture, because one of them gave us some information that we could use? And how important does that information have to be to justify the torture that was used?

      They want to suggest that no law has been broken, because "useful information that saved American lives" has been obtained.

      I guess my question is, can the torture of many individuals be legally justified if just one of them gives us information?
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      • Author by bilbo_dies (August 28, 2009 10:44 am ET)
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        The problem here is that this has probalby already happened.
        A lot of "terrorists" were turned in for a reward and their only crime being that someone else didn't like them or they were of a different faith or nationality.
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      • Author by shaggles (August 28, 2009 11:41 am ET)
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        Since everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law you could say that every single person tortured was innocent. But guilt or innocence doesn't matter. It doesn't matter whether the victim is Mother Theresa or Osama bin Laden. Torture is immoral and illegal.
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      • Author by kydem09 (August 28, 2009 3:11 pm ET)
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        What if an innocent man has been tortured? What if an innocent child has been aborted? Hey, wait a second . . .
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        • Author by rkallen09 (August 28, 2009 5:58 pm ET)
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          If I told you that I was Pro-Life but did not believe in or follow the anti-abortion movements methods or suggested solutions to the problem, would you take my comments more seriously?
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    • Author by The_Cat (August 28, 2009 11:20 am ET)
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      "You gotta go personal..."

      No, you don't. You have to remain impartial, and decide based on facts and not fears.

      We don't negotiate with hijackers. That's impartial, and good policy.

      We don't negotiate with hijackers unless a congressman's kid is on the plane. That's personal, and it doesn't work. You're only pointing out to the potential terrorists exactly what kind of target they need to get your attention.

      What if it was your kid? Any parent will say, "Then do whatever you have to to keep them safe." I'm a parent, so I know what I am talking about. But we didn't elect a parent, did we? We elected a President, whose job involves thinking of the good of the whole nation.

      Let's say a man is captured, and is waterboarded. Turns out he didn't know anything, that it was all a mistake. It happens quite often in law enforcement. That man is somebody's son. You think his parents aren't going to be against the U.S. for torturing their kid? I sure would be. Do you think they won't take action? Are you willing to gamble more lives on that hope? I'm not.

      America should never torture. For any reason.
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    • Author by rms (August 28, 2009 11:36 am ET)
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      Chris, you are on Fox "News." You are not allowed to think any differently!
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (August 28, 2009 12:01 pm ET)
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      So you're with Jack Bauer, huh Chris?

      Well I'm with AMERICA. And with AMERICAN VALUES.

      Anyone who advocates torture as a way to defend those values is an idiot.

      Anyone who advocates torture as a way to protect their own skin is a coward, and a traitor to those values.

      All of our lives will end one, hopefully later rather than sooner, but we will all die eventually. Let try not destroy everything that made America great in the first place withon our own lifetimes, simply for the purpose of extending them. The constituition and the values it stands for are the only thing worth defending. Tehy MUST live on - longer than US. And as it expressly forbids torture, advocating gov't torture does more to destroy our values and our way of life than the terrorists ever could.

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    • Author by antihannity2009 (August 28, 2009 12:14 pm ET)
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      So...torturing people is just a big joke to Fox apparently. I hope that the next time people like Hannity travel overseas that they kidnapped by terrorists and tortured so that they know what it feels like.
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (August 28, 2009 2:38 pm ET)
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      I'm with Micky Mouse. He says your Goofy. Pluto says you look very much like his favorite fire hydrant.
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    • Author by mjh (August 30, 2009 5:06 pm ET)
         
      Fox's Wallace on waterboarding: "[L]isten, I'm with Jack Bauer on this"


      Good -- you and Liz Cheney should get waterboarded together, Chrissy . . .

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