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Beck's paranoia continues: "What they have to do is break my legs. What they have to do is silence me"

August 28, 2009 1:04 pm ET

From the August 28 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:

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    • Author by snoopy (August 28, 2009 1:07 pm ET)
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      How's that sponsorship coming along, flameboy?
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      • Author by all your eyes (August 28, 2009 1:17 pm ET)
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        Straight to the FEMA camp with this guy. Send ACORN to go pick him up.
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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (August 28, 2009 2:58 pm ET)
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        I knew a couple weeks past he was going into victim mode.
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    • Author by The_Cat (August 28, 2009 1:17 pm ET)
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      No, Mr. Beck, it's a civilian 'national security' force, because our national security depends on more than how many guns and bombs we have. As I already mentioned, I'm perfectly aware that you are a 'get a bigger hammer' kind of guy, but I'm sure you can grasp this if you can simply open your mind.

      civilian=i.e., not the military
      national security=protecting America's interests and goals, at home and abroad
      force=a group organized for a purpose

      You haven't yet proposed any facts, other than getting your own name right, Mr. Beck. Whether or not you 'buy into a civilian national security force' is immaterial. It has no basis in fact or effect on reality. It would be like you not buying into the idea that the sky is blue on a clear day. What you believe just doesn't matter; only what you can prove.

      "They're right now preparing something, to take me out or discredit me." That's dangerous paranoia, Mr. Beck. You should seek counseling about that, and soon.

      Mr. Beck, you bring no facts to the debate, and yet you expect someone to refute you with facts? Why? Because you are such a firm believer in facts, because you so strictly toe the line on what is true? You admit you assume, sir. Assuming inherently means there is no factual basis, else the facts would be brought forward to bolster your argument.

      'Sarah Palin' you? In a way, yes. You've both been given enough media coverage to allow you to put both feet and most of an arm into your mouths by saying outrageously stupid and inflammatory things. In other words, you were given enough rope, and rather than pull yourself out of the hole you are in, you chose to hang yourself with it. Now, who -exactly- is to blame for that, Mr. Beck? Did you see him in the mirror this morning when you shaved?
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      • Author by Caene (August 28, 2009 5:06 pm ET)
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        The_Cat says, "national security=protecting America's interests and goals, at home and abroad."
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        What exactly are Mr. Obama's "interests and goals?" With regard to *national security,* how does he define that/them? What is his criteria? How does he measure success?

        His call for a "national civilian security force" was made during a speech regarding community service. It's a call for organized mandatory volunteering (note the contradiction). However, it does raise questions about the *potential* for a controlled group of the population to be used to a assert a political agenda as set forth by the government. Mr. Obama himself said, "We cannot continue to rely on the military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." Volunteer organizations "just as powerful...strong...well-funded" as the military? Why blame people for asking questions about that? Would you not want clarification?

        We've had a couple czars before but with Obama's appointment of a couple dozen coupled with his breakneck push for sweeping radical legislation, Americans are finally taking notice. The notion of czars, flag@whitehouse.gov, etc. conjures up thoughts of Soviet Russia. The government is doing things regardless of whether "We the People" want it or is even constitutional. It is naive to think that a paramilitary group can't eventually happen here, whether under Obama or someone else.

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        • Author by The_Cat (August 28, 2009 5:26 pm ET)
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          And yet, oddly enough, it was Vice President Cheney who tried to use American troops against U.S. citizens in New York. And who was part of the largest surveillance program the world has ever seen, including the warrantless wiretapping of U.S. citizens. And who created phony intelligence to invade a sovereign nation. And who was part of an administration that chose to silence an outspoken critic by revealing that his wife was a CIA operative. And who allowed the oil and gas industry to frame American energy policy, the details of which meeting have still not been revealed. And who, along with President Bush, sought to strike down California's ZEV and reduced emissions mandates. And who approved no-bid multi billion dollar contracts for his former employer Halliburton. And who hired private contractors to assassinate Iraqi civilians. And was part of the Bush administrations hiring of over 20 'czars'. And who shot another person in the face with a shotgun.

          'Czars' are a media term. Nixon began the practice, and every president since has hired them, in ever increasing numbers.

          flag@whitehouse.gov is exclusively to monitor disinformation about health coverage reform, which, naturally, the insurance industry does not favor. They're trying to protect sacred profits, after all.

          Breakneck push for sweeping radical legislation? So far, the health coverage reform has taken quite a bit longer than the Patriot Act and the creation of a whole new arm of government called the Department for Homeland Security. On top of that, we've needed health coverage reform for about 70 years. What exactly is your threshold for 'rushing'?!

          'We the People' want health coverage reform. Once the basic tenets of the proposed bill are explained, a strong majority of Americans is in favor of it.

          As far as national security goals, a good start would be repairing America's bad name abroad, and dealing with serious and ongoing domestic problems, such as rebuilding New Orleans. Both of these things are part of the Bush/Cheney legacy, by the way.

          If there is any indication that this 'civilian national security force' is turning into some amateur hour paramilitary group being used by the administration for it's own evil purposes, I will be one of the first to take to the streets. I just don't find it that believable right now, Caene.
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        • Author by tman418 (August 28, 2009 5:31 pm ET)
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          Caene,

          Read this
          http://mediamatters.org/research/200811060010
          On Bob Grant's radio show, Ann Coulter suggested that President-elect Barack Obama's "civilian national security force" would lead to "a lot more Waco raids, Elian Gonzalez snatchings." In fact, Obama's comments about the necessity of a "civilian national security force" referred to expanding the Foreign Service, AmeriCorps, and the Peace Corps.
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        • Author by timbo11 (August 28, 2009 5:43 pm ET)
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          I would hardly consider expanding the funding and number of positions available in the Peace Corps, Foreign Service and USA Freedom Corps (note: creation of George W. Bush) a "call for mandatory volunteering." That is not at all what Candidate Obama was referring to, if one actually reads the words ("mandatory" appears nowhere at all within there). So, that kind of undermines your second point about having "a controlled group of the population" asserting "a political agenda," as you, just like our friend Mr. Beck are distorting facts to make your case that Obama (who, we should note, since becoming president has not even brought this subject-matter up, so the sudden right-wing panic now appears slightly suspicious and quite motivated by completely unrelated political issues, such as say, the health care debate) is trying to assert a sort of fascist power of the populace.

          To reasonable folks who can read and then make sense out of the sentences that they see, it seems quite clear that "civilian national security force" (notice, no capital letters indicating that this is actually supposed to be the proper name for some leftist-style "SS" as Beck insinuated yesterday) is purely a rhetorical metaphor for his support for pursuing a more peaceful agenda of development (namely CAPITALIST economic development, which is the goal of our governmental organizations like USAID) and diplomacy overseas, rather than trying to force American foreign policy down the international community's throat with the barrel of a gun, as was the case with our previous president and his cabal of neocons.

          Sure, maybe asking rational questions about the specific funding required for the expansion of these programs, especially given our current budget deficit, and about how particularly large of a role Obama wants these programs to have, may be logical things to ask, but distorting facts, instilling fear and paranoia, and being just plain dishonest is not the way to go about this.
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    • Author by pros2pros2940 (August 28, 2009 1:18 pm ET)
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      Hilarious......he's now into the martyr routine.

      Plus, OT : anybody else come across people that are Fox News Channel watchers and think that FNC's audience is bigger than the major networks ?

      Seems if it was pointed out to them that the "most watched" channel (FNC) has a fraction of the audience of ANC, NBC & CBS would show them they're clearly part of the fringe of America ?
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      • Author by EZ4you2say (August 28, 2009 1:26 pm ET)
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        If they're the fringe, why are you lefties so obsessed with what they say?
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        • Author by bilbo_dies (August 28, 2009 1:56 pm ET)
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          I think it had something to do with giving someone a national platform in which he called the POTUS a "racist". Which, I am sure, was only meant in jest but; gee, learn where to draw the line.
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        • Author by timbo11 (August 28, 2009 2:02 pm ET)
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          Probably because with the media, when one lies, makes a statement completely devoid of fact, or makes completely irresponsible distortions of the truth, then in a democracy, someone needs to be there to call out that person. Newspapers often put out corrections when they have made misstatement of fact; this is not the case with basically all radio and television news/opinion outlets, so it takes a watchdog like Media Matters or some such organization to shed some light on those omissions of reality.
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        • Author by bintx (August 28, 2009 2:34 pm ET)
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          I'm not a "leftie," and I find what this man says to be dangerous. There have been at least 3 crazies with guns citing this loud-mouthed clown as reasons for committing crimes. One was the guy who killed the cops in Pennsylvania, the lady who thought she had discovered a "re-education" camp, and the 912 organizer/GOP leader in Idaho who pulled a .357 magnum on a man just asking him why he was taking pictures of his home.

          He is inciting violence.
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        • Author by pros2pros2940 (August 28, 2009 2:36 pm ET)
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          Hmm....let's see a network that is a propaganda organ for the right wing and stirring up crazies with lies.

          Plus, they've comvinced their loyal watchers that they're the biggest thing in news nationally and if it's on TV is must be true. And, if it's the biggest in the land, everyone thinks like they do.

          But the truth is they are on the fringe but it's a dangerous fringe, like any cult really, and they're being exposed to information suggesting the current gov't is dangerous and they have to rise up.

          Threats to the President are up 400 percent over what they were for Bush.

          So....the same network that convinced it's listeners that everything Bush did was legal is now telling them that the current administration is dangerous.

          All of the Fox nonsense is mainstreamed through talk radio.

          Things are too serious in our country right now for this Network that perpetrates lies and dangerous rhetoric to behave the way they are.
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      • Author by shaggles (August 28, 2009 1:39 pm ET)
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        He's been on the martyr routine since Obama was elected.
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      • Author by bintx (August 28, 2009 2:07 pm ET)
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        Yep . . . all the time.

        I've pointed out that Fox garners a little over ten percent of the total viewership of the broadcast networks. I've been called a liar. The season opener of Jon & Kate plus 8 had 5 times the viewership of Fox's entire prime time programing. They won't listen. Bill told 'em that ratings equal truth and quality, so, by golly, it's GOTTA be true.

        Fox and the hate radio folks are part of the reason I quit voting for Republicans in 2000. Hate and anger and lies . . . just not my cup of tea.
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    • Author by timbo11 (August 28, 2009 1:29 pm ET)
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      So, I guess it has been established that Glenn Beck can read; he just can't interpret the words that are coming out of his own mouth when he does so.
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    • Author by christopher howard (August 28, 2009 1:44 pm ET)
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      Glenn, seriously, I'm worried. Please get help.
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    • Author by Mizum (August 28, 2009 1:44 pm ET)
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      *Sigh* Sometimes I wish I could just put my head back in the sand and ignore all this hatred. I wonder if anyone could change the mind of a Mr.Beck Viewer?
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      • Author by Major Tom (August 28, 2009 2:02 pm ET)
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        This is a question that I think we all fear to ask. Is it even possible to change someone's mind... I fear that it's not possible. I fear that all these people do is reinforce their own ideas of the world, rather than truly weighing the choices of truth, and there are choices... I don't think this is going to end well as beck continues to ratchet up his rhetoric...
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    • Author by bilbo_dies (August 28, 2009 1:52 pm ET)
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      I would never suggest anything illegal but; If only Beck could have his own "What's the frequency Kenneth" episode. That would be so sweet.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (August 28, 2009 1:56 pm ET)
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      Gee, Glenn, I'm not George Soros, but I do contribute to Media Matters, so I guess I'm corrupt just by the association. The President is talking about a security force to watch our borders (something I would think you would appreciate, unless of course, you prefer The Minutemen, a vigilante group.) Presently, our military is overstretched and handle many more assignments. There is also the Posse Comitatus Act of 1978 which limits the use of the military in law enforcement situations anyway. Why don't I answer your questions and fight your "facts" which are really just bizarre and wild suppositions on your part. I could give you facts, but you wouldn't believe them anyway, so why bother. You are a fearmonger, and your delusions might be brought on or reinforced by the brain damage your drug and alcohol abuse caused. And your religion has an apocalyptic view of the world which seems to be in symbiosis with your own paranoia. So, yes, am I guilty of fighting you on a personal level, you betcha, because I can't fight you on a factual or logical basis, as you are utterly lacking in them.
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    • Author by jbraskin4786 (August 28, 2009 1:59 pm ET)
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      No one wants to silence you, you boob. The more you prattle, the more you alienate people!!!
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    • Author by marc anizan (August 28, 2009 2:02 pm ET)
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      What's interesting is that the questions Beck raises are not being addressed by the Obama administration, or by any other prominent democrat spokesperson. That's odd, given the gravity of the accusations. As well, boycotts are generally an attempt to circumvent reasoned debate, i.e., a defense of the indefensible.

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      • Author by timbo11 (August 28, 2009 2:31 pm ET)
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        So, every time that some loon with a radio and television show raises a ludicrous question devoid of reason and fact, it is up to the President of the United States to respond to it? If these questions are so important and vital to the functioning of our democracy, and if Fox News is the only "fair and balanced" media outlet that is not in cahoots with the rest of the "state-run media" as these folks put it, why then, does Major Garrett (Fox's White House correspondent) not ask them of the President or the Press Secretary? Hmmm, perhaps, because even Major Garrett is aware of the nonfactual, outlandish, irrelevant and just plain silly nature of most of Glenn's "pressing questions" about threats to America?

        And did the Bush administration respond to every wild conspiracy theory that a loon through out there about 9/11? No, because some questions (especially when coming from some loon indirectly on a television or radio outlet) don't even need to be addressed, especially, when they are just expressed through rants with no basis in reality or fact.
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      • Author by bintx (August 28, 2009 2:55 pm ET)
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        The reason nobody is addressing the questions is because they are bs questions. Beck doesn't want answers to these made up questions, either. He's just throwing them out there so his viewers will think what he wants them to think.

        Beck is an ENTERTAINER. That's all.
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        • Author by Bronwyn (August 28, 2009 11:38 pm ET)
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          You are so correct about Beck not wanting answers. His claims that no one has answered any of his questions, that they only call him names and throw out insults, is a bald face lie on his part. I have seen many sites and blogs where someone, like many on this thread, have made very thoughtful, detailed fact based answers to his questions. He ignores them and continues to play the fear-mongering victim.
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (August 28, 2009 3:21 pm ET)
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        "What's interesting is that the questions Beck raises are not being addressed by the Obama administration, or by any other prominent democrat spokesperson. That's odd, given the gravity of the accusations. As well, boycotts are generally an attempt to circumvent reasoned debate, i.e., a defense of the indefensible." marc amazon

        Is that supposed to be satire, marc? Or are you as batcrap crazy as Beck?
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      • Author by mjh (August 28, 2009 3:48 pm ET)
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        "As well, boycotts are generally an attempt to circumvent reasoned debate, i.e., a defense of the indefensible." -- marc anizan



        Well, marc -- glad to hear how you felt about Bill O'Reilly's successful "boycott" of France . . .

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      • Author by Vincenzo (August 28, 2009 4:21 pm ET)
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        I've heard from some sources, but I can't verify it, that you robbed a bank last weekend and shot a guard. Then you sold some drugs to a 12 year old by the school. I'm going to print it in your local newspaper. Do you want to respond?
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    • Author by bintx (August 28, 2009 2:02 pm ET)
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      It's not paranoia, it's an act designed to scare folks. It's how he gets people to listen to him. He plays on their fears and pretends that he's one of them.

      He is a higly paid entertainer intent on destroying our country. He doesn't care . . . it's just money to him.
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    • Author by overmars jr. (August 28, 2009 2:11 pm ET)
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      That may have been the champions stupidest 4 minutes and 30 seconds of audio I have ever listened to. I can't even finish it.

      Just thunderously stupid.
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    • Author by latanza (August 28, 2009 2:28 pm ET)
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      This sounds more like a fetish rather than intelligence.
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    • Author by internet soldier (August 28, 2009 2:34 pm ET)
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      Somebody call a wahmbulance.
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    • Author by draftedin68 (August 28, 2009 2:37 pm ET)
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      Looneyville Slugger

      Glenn, it might have been a mistake for you to imply that your bile spewer can be shut off by simply breaking your legs.

      Just in case, you may want to stay away from the ballpark on Bat Day.



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      • Author by Bronwyn (August 28, 2009 11:47 pm ET)
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        What was it, that fine republican Pat Buchanan, kept saying about Levi Johnson, hold him under water until the thrashing stops?
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (August 28, 2009 2:59 pm ET)
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      Actually one must remember it is Rupert Murdoch who is running his show and is the one who will break his leg if he strays from the script.
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      • Author by The_Cat (August 28, 2009 4:37 pm ET)
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        By jingo, wolf Kotenberg, I think you're on to something. I watched the clip over again, and realized that this is really a cry for help disguised as anti-government screed. I counted the duration and length of each of Mr. Beck's blinks, and it turned out to be a message in Morse code: They have my family. Please help. Lies must stop.

        It just repeats over and over again.

        (sorry, I just couldn't help myself. The image of Mr. Beck imprisoned by Mr. Murdoch and forced to say whatever they tell him to was just too juicy to let go.)
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    • Author by 19Royal (August 28, 2009 3:37 pm ET)
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      Hello,
      First off I am a conservative Christian, and grew up with conservative principles which I unforunately do not see in today's "conservative media."

      Glenn Beck does not represent me or the values which I have held throughout my life. Also, I feel sick whenever I see the stuff which passes for "investigative reporting" on his programs.

      I Would personally like to thank the folks at Media Matters for consistently providing the truth in the face of misinformation, and can only hope that it helps others see how conservatism is in trouble. Believe me, there are plenty of conservatives sickened by the antics of Beck, Fox, and all the other neo-cons/reactionaries. They are irresponsible and dangerous to everybody.

      It is neither ethical or good for our country, what is going on, and I fear that many real conservatives who truly care about this world will have a hard climb back up the ladder with the crazy FAR right now calling the shots. They need to be stopped.

      Again, thank you to Media Matters. Myself and my family and friends have benefitted from being able to research the things that are being spewed on programs like Beck, rather than simply being spoon-fed information.
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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (August 28, 2009 6:06 pm ET)
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        Sir, i am saving you a place at my dinner table. Would you like an ice cold Coors or a glass of fine bbq wine with your meal ?
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    • Author by TXJoe (August 28, 2009 4:58 pm ET)
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      I've studied the history of Germany. I was born in Germany. I am a naturalized American citizen. I served in the US Army. I held a top secret clearance. I've read Mien Kampf and I've read Michael Moore and I've read Bill O'Reilly's first book; I'm broadminded.

      I followed you, Mr. Beck, for a short time on CNN and then for a little while on FOX. I have some serious advice. First you are completely delusional. I understand that you might sincerely believe what you're saying; emphases on might; so you might not be 100% at fault here. Second, the most patriot thing you can do, right now, at this point in your life, is slow down and think, think long and hard; ask yourself if you truly have the wellbeing of your fellow countrymen at heart.

      Mr. Beck, you have become (or maybe you always have been) part of the fringe; you exist at one of the far ends of the political spectrum and that is a very, very unhealthy place to be. I’ll grant you it’s entertaining to watch, like Jerry Springer is entertaining, but when people begin to believe that what you say is actual hard news and information then you’re treading on very dangerous ground.

      American politics exists in a fuzzy middle area on the political spectrum and thankfully most elected officials, left and right, come from that fuzzy middle. The day someone with your extremism comes into power in this country (whether it’s from the right or the left) is the day this country will decline into anarchy or totalitarianism; I hope I do not live to see that day.

      You’re an entertainer gone awry Mr. Beck. Do the right thing. At the very least inform your viewers that these things are your opinion and that you are a newsman. You’re a side show Mr. Beck; a snake oil salesman. Be honest with yourself, if not with us.
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    • Author by theSTATorg (August 28, 2009 5:49 pm ET)
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      Prediction:

      Beck will continue to act crazier and crazier only to have a complete FAKE breakdown so that he can go to rehab, blame everything he said on some drug, and start his "Forgive Me" campaign to get advertisers back.

      Classic Britney Spears...just wait and see

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      • Author by foghornleghorn (August 28, 2009 8:36 pm ET)
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        Classic Howard Beale. The only difference is the Beale was a true believer. Beck is a clown who's in it only for the money (and ego trip, I'd guess).
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      • Author by overmars jr. (August 29, 2009 5:42 pm ET)
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        You forgot the tell-all book deal.
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        • Author by business95paper (August 31, 2009 9:59 am ET)
             
          Be carefull what you ask for America. "Civillian National Security Force"?
          Sounds a bit like the SS , Hilter's band of hit-men ready to destroy anything that resisted the will of the Fuehrer. Once we practice to deceive, what a tangled w-e-b we weave. Is that the direction Obama-man and his merry band of ghouls are taking us? Let's face it, The tree "will bare" fruit. Only a short time from now, we will know if that fruit is good! Be wise and be prepared..
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    • Author by lather (August 29, 2009 4:08 pm ET)
         
      Oh.. They sure did silence me.. at Glenn's 912 Project.
      Got an angry letter from the webmaster because I said Shame on them for using 9-11.. It made me laugh a Bit.

      webmaster@theglennbeck912project

      Will NOT allow ANY other Post but Followers of Beck. Beck Zombies?
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    • Author by biteyoass2009 (August 30, 2009 4:00 pm ET)
         
      Oh no! Better watch out for Americorps! Because when your poor, they'll try to.....get you off the street and feed you! AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!! THE HORROR!

      NOT MY PRECIOUS BOOTSTRAPS! LOL

      But seriously, Glenn Beck can't read. Let alone spell.
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