Beck's paranoia continues: "What they have to do is break my legs. What they have to do is silence me"
August 28, 2009 1:04 pm ET
From the August 28 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:
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civilian=i.e., not the military
national security=protecting America's interests and goals, at home and abroad
force=a group organized for a purpose
You haven't yet proposed any facts, other than getting your own name right, Mr. Beck. Whether or not you 'buy into a civilian national security force' is immaterial. It has no basis in fact or effect on reality. It would be like you not buying into the idea that the sky is blue on a clear day. What you believe just doesn't matter; only what you can prove.
"They're right now preparing something, to take me out or discredit me." That's dangerous paranoia, Mr. Beck. You should seek counseling about that, and soon.
Mr. Beck, you bring no facts to the debate, and yet you expect someone to refute you with facts? Why? Because you are such a firm believer in facts, because you so strictly toe the line on what is true? You admit you assume, sir. Assuming inherently means there is no factual basis, else the facts would be brought forward to bolster your argument.
'Sarah Palin' you? In a way, yes. You've both been given enough media coverage to allow you to put both feet and most of an arm into your mouths by saying outrageously stupid and inflammatory things. In other words, you were given enough rope, and rather than pull yourself out of the hole you are in, you chose to hang yourself with it. Now, who -exactly- is to blame for that, Mr. Beck? Did you see him in the mirror this morning when you shaved?
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What exactly are Mr. Obama's "interests and goals?" With regard to *national security,* how does he define that/them? What is his criteria? How does he measure success?
His call for a "national civilian security force" was made during a speech regarding community service. It's a call for organized mandatory volunteering (note the contradiction). However, it does raise questions about the *potential* for a controlled group of the population to be used to a assert a political agenda as set forth by the government. Mr. Obama himself said, "We cannot continue to rely on the military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." Volunteer organizations "just as powerful...strong...well-funded" as the military? Why blame people for asking questions about that? Would you not want clarification?
We've had a couple czars before but with Obama's appointment of a couple dozen coupled with his breakneck push for sweeping radical legislation, Americans are finally taking notice. The notion of czars, flag@whitehouse.gov, etc. conjures up thoughts of Soviet Russia. The government is doing things regardless of whether "We the People" want it or is even constitutional. It is naive to think that a paramilitary group can't eventually happen here, whether under Obama or someone else.
'Czars' are a media term. Nixon began the practice, and every president since has hired them, in ever increasing numbers.
flag@whitehouse.gov is exclusively to monitor disinformation about health coverage reform, which, naturally, the insurance industry does not favor. They're trying to protect sacred profits, after all.
Breakneck push for sweeping radical legislation? So far, the health coverage reform has taken quite a bit longer than the Patriot Act and the creation of a whole new arm of government called the Department for Homeland Security. On top of that, we've needed health coverage reform for about 70 years. What exactly is your threshold for 'rushing'?!
'We the People' want health coverage reform. Once the basic tenets of the proposed bill are explained, a strong majority of Americans is in favor of it.
As far as national security goals, a good start would be repairing America's bad name abroad, and dealing with serious and ongoing domestic problems, such as rebuilding New Orleans. Both of these things are part of the Bush/Cheney legacy, by the way.
If there is any indication that this 'civilian national security force' is turning into some amateur hour paramilitary group being used by the administration for it's own evil purposes, I will be one of the first to take to the streets. I just don't find it that believable right now, Caene.
Read this
http://mediamatters.org/research/200811060010
On Bob Grant's radio show, Ann Coulter suggested that President-elect Barack Obama's "civilian national security force" would lead to "a lot more Waco raids, Elian Gonzalez snatchings." In fact, Obama's comments about the necessity of a "civilian national security force" referred to expanding the Foreign Service, AmeriCorps, and the Peace Corps.
To reasonable folks who can read and then make sense out of the sentences that they see, it seems quite clear that "civilian national security force" (notice, no capital letters indicating that this is actually supposed to be the proper name for some leftist-style "SS" as Beck insinuated yesterday) is purely a rhetorical metaphor for his support for pursuing a more peaceful agenda of development (namely CAPITALIST economic development, which is the goal of our governmental organizations like USAID) and diplomacy overseas, rather than trying to force American foreign policy down the international community's throat with the barrel of a gun, as was the case with our previous president and his cabal of neocons.
Sure, maybe asking rational questions about the specific funding required for the expansion of these programs, especially given our current budget deficit, and about how particularly large of a role Obama wants these programs to have, may be logical things to ask, but distorting facts, instilling fear and paranoia, and being just plain dishonest is not the way to go about this.
Plus, OT : anybody else come across people that are Fox News Channel watchers and think that FNC's audience is bigger than the major networks ?
Seems if it was pointed out to them that the "most watched" channel (FNC) has a fraction of the audience of ANC, NBC & CBS would show them they're clearly part of the fringe of America ?
He is inciting violence.
Plus, they've comvinced their loyal watchers that they're the biggest thing in news nationally and if it's on TV is must be true. And, if it's the biggest in the land, everyone thinks like they do.
But the truth is they are on the fringe but it's a dangerous fringe, like any cult really, and they're being exposed to information suggesting the current gov't is dangerous and they have to rise up.
Threats to the President are up 400 percent over what they were for Bush.
So....the same network that convinced it's listeners that everything Bush did was legal is now telling them that the current administration is dangerous.
All of the Fox nonsense is mainstreamed through talk radio.
Things are too serious in our country right now for this Network that perpetrates lies and dangerous rhetoric to behave the way they are.
I've pointed out that Fox garners a little over ten percent of the total viewership of the broadcast networks. I've been called a liar. The season opener of Jon & Kate plus 8 had 5 times the viewership of Fox's entire prime time programing. They won't listen. Bill told 'em that ratings equal truth and quality, so, by golly, it's GOTTA be true.
Fox and the hate radio folks are part of the reason I quit voting for Republicans in 2000. Hate and anger and lies . . . just not my cup of tea.
Well, I have my doubts about that . . .
And did the Bush administration respond to every wild conspiracy theory that a loon through out there about 9/11? No, because some questions (especially when coming from some loon indirectly on a television or radio outlet) don't even need to be addressed, especially, when they are just expressed through rants with no basis in reality or fact.
Beck is an ENTERTAINER. That's all.
Is that supposed to be satire, marc? Or are you as batcrap crazy as Beck?
Well, marc -- glad to hear how you felt about Bill O'Reilly's successful "boycott" of France . . .
He is a higly paid entertainer intent on destroying our country. He doesn't care . . . it's just money to him.
Just thunderously stupid.
Glenn, it might have been a mistake for you to imply that your bile spewer can be shut off by simply breaking your legs.
Just in case, you may want to stay away from the ballpark on Bat Day.
It just repeats over and over again.
(sorry, I just couldn't help myself. The image of Mr. Beck imprisoned by Mr. Murdoch and forced to say whatever they tell him to was just too juicy to let go.)
First off I am a conservative Christian, and grew up with conservative principles which I unforunately do not see in today's "conservative media."
Glenn Beck does not represent me or the values which I have held throughout my life. Also, I feel sick whenever I see the stuff which passes for "investigative reporting" on his programs.
I Would personally like to thank the folks at Media Matters for consistently providing the truth in the face of misinformation, and can only hope that it helps others see how conservatism is in trouble. Believe me, there are plenty of conservatives sickened by the antics of Beck, Fox, and all the other neo-cons/reactionaries. They are irresponsible and dangerous to everybody.
It is neither ethical or good for our country, what is going on, and I fear that many real conservatives who truly care about this world will have a hard climb back up the ladder with the crazy FAR right now calling the shots. They need to be stopped.
Again, thank you to Media Matters. Myself and my family and friends have benefitted from being able to research the things that are being spewed on programs like Beck, rather than simply being spoon-fed information.
I followed you, Mr. Beck, for a short time on CNN and then for a little while on FOX. I have some serious advice. First you are completely delusional. I understand that you might sincerely believe what you're saying; emphases on might; so you might not be 100% at fault here. Second, the most patriot thing you can do, right now, at this point in your life, is slow down and think, think long and hard; ask yourself if you truly have the wellbeing of your fellow countrymen at heart.
Mr. Beck, you have become (or maybe you always have been) part of the fringe; you exist at one of the far ends of the political spectrum and that is a very, very unhealthy place to be. I’ll grant you it’s entertaining to watch, like Jerry Springer is entertaining, but when people begin to believe that what you say is actual hard news and information then you’re treading on very dangerous ground.
American politics exists in a fuzzy middle area on the political spectrum and thankfully most elected officials, left and right, come from that fuzzy middle. The day someone with your extremism comes into power in this country (whether it’s from the right or the left) is the day this country will decline into anarchy or totalitarianism; I hope I do not live to see that day.
You’re an entertainer gone awry Mr. Beck. Do the right thing. At the very least inform your viewers that these things are your opinion and that you are a newsman. You’re a side show Mr. Beck; a snake oil salesman. Be honest with yourself, if not with us.
Beck will continue to act crazier and crazier only to have a complete FAKE breakdown so that he can go to rehab, blame everything he said on some drug, and start his "Forgive Me" campaign to get advertisers back.
Classic Britney Spears...just wait and see
Sounds a bit like the SS , Hilter's band of hit-men ready to destroy anything that resisted the will of the Fuehrer. Once we practice to deceive, what a tangled w-e-b we weave. Is that the direction Obama-man and his merry band of ghouls are taking us? Let's face it, The tree "will bare" fruit. Only a short time from now, we will know if that fruit is good! Be wise and be prepared..
Got an angry letter from the webmaster because I said Shame on them for using 9-11.. It made me laugh a Bit.
webmaster@theglennbeck912project
Will NOT allow ANY other Post but Followers of Beck. Beck Zombies?
NOT MY PRECIOUS BOOTSTRAPS! LOL
But seriously, Glenn Beck can't read. Let alone spell.