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Fox's Wallace parrots NewsBusters' comparison of NY Times Kennedy, Helms obits

August 30, 2009 2:56 pm ET

From the August 30 edition of Fox Broadcasting Co.'s Fox News Sunday:

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NewsBusters: NYT's Ted Kennedy Obit Avoids the Jesse Helms Treatment 

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    • Author by mk3872 (August 30, 2009 3:15 pm ET)
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      Just giving props to their friends at Newsbusters ...

      Those poor, poor conservatives just don't get any respect, do they?
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      • Author by Liberal Leader (August 31, 2009 11:16 am ET)
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        I think Senator Helms would have appreciated that opening to his obit. He was a hard edge conservative and proud of it. He was proud of his opposition to civil rights and to gay rights. Just because Sammon and Wallace aren't proud of those things does not make it a double standard by the NYT. This isn't about the NYT, this is about conservatives' political leaders. What Ted Kennedy did outside the Senate chambers was embarassing and tragic in many instances. The same can't be said for what he did in the Senate chambers. Helms on the other hand, used his position in the US Senate to deny freedom and liberty to American citizens. That certainly had more effect on lives in America than what happened to poor Ms. Kopechne.
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    • Author by Vincenzo (August 30, 2009 3:20 pm ET)
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      Lets advance the idiocy and morbidity further....Mike Wallace's obit will certainly extol his journalistic work while Chris', if based on how he has conducted his career so far, will sound more like Jesse Helm's. Leave it to Fox to portray Jesse Helms into a misread nice guy.
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    • Author by dr. matt (August 30, 2009 4:00 pm ET)
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      Wallace is whining about the Media coverage of Kennedy's death? Seriously? Has he forgot about the week long w*nkfest when ronny raygun entered the gates of h*ll? Apparently he didn't tune into Faux and Idiots on the morning of Kennedy's death when EVERY station was proving wall-to-wall coverage of this breaking news to a waking America....except for Faux of course. They were giving Doocy's inbred, goat-like offspring a 5-minute fluff piece. Embarrassing.

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    • Author by m.heft8723 (August 30, 2009 4:26 pm ET)
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      Has anyone ever interviewed Wallace on any television interview forum (except FOX, of course? I was how he justifies his "news" presentations. It is so disappointing to know that anyone can be bought to lie in a national newscast. Do any "FOXy newscasters" belong to the Society of Professional News Journalists?
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    • Author by whillenbrand (August 30, 2009 5:09 pm ET)
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      Are you freak'n kidding me???? Jesse Helms political life compared to Ted Kennedy. Aside from idiotic, this is just pure trash journalism. George W. Bush referred to Bill Sammon by his nickname, "Big Stretch" for his height - should have been for his integrity!
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      • Author by fairliberal (August 30, 2009 7:27 pm ET)
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        Well at least Helms didn't cheat in school and he wasn't responsible for the death of a woman while driving impaired. Nor did he oppose alternative energy projects like Kennedy did or blantantly manipulate laws to benefit his party.
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        • Author by dr. matt (August 30, 2009 8:49 pm ET)
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          Helm was a bigoted racist scumbag, habitual liar, unapologetic hate monger, a raging homophobe, and is sitting next to Ronny Raygun in the depths of H*ll.
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          • Author by fairliberal (August 30, 2009 8:58 pm ET)
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            And they are saving a seat for you. You can sit next to Sen Byrd.
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            • Author by dr. matt (August 30, 2009 9:05 pm ET)
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              You forgot to mention ACORN, Olbermann, and ratings.
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            • Author by blk-in-alabam (August 31, 2009 12:31 am ET)
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              Jesse Helms never renounced his racism,and continued his racist agenda his whole life,until the second he died.The only way you can equate Helms and Byrd is you are either a racist, a fool,or both.
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              • Author by mescal (August 31, 2009 1:19 am ET)
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                I'm voting for both.
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              • Author by fairliberal (August 31, 2009 2:17 am ET)
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                I see that you are a good little dimocrat , when in doubt , play the race card.

                I wonder though, how you felt about the Don Imus controversy. I think I might remember your comments on it, I am not sure however, perhaps you will remind me.
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                • Author by blk-in-alabam (August 31, 2009 7:12 am ET)
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                  I remember what I said about Imus.I said his mistake was calling those girls nappy head.Rap stars talk about and degrade women all kinds of ways.But even they know you do not talk about the hair on the heads of American women of any race.You make enemies quick.Those girls spent a lot of time fixing there hair for TV,and Imus go and call them nappy head.There were factors involved besides race.Let's leave democrat,republican out of the discussion,and talk about things on a right or wrong basis.Jesse Helms did wrong and evil things all his life.About this race card thing,if we truly lived in a color blind society the race card would not be in the deck.If you don't want to see the race card played then work hard to take it out the deck.When people do or say racist things,as the conservatives(republicans)have,and so often do,they are saying play that card.Are you asking me to play that card by assuming my opinion of Imus comments comes only from the stand point of race.
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                • Author by Brabantio (August 31, 2009 8:06 am ET)
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                  The subject is Helms, a man who supported Apartheid in South Africa, and it's some wild stretch to "play the race card"? Racism is what he was best known for.
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                • Author by dr. matt (August 31, 2009 9:38 am ET)
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                  faillibrul is a good little Faux defender, when in doubt, mention "ratings".

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        • Author by whillenbrand (August 31, 2009 9:20 am ET)
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          This is about Fox's "Sour Grapes" mentality so soon after Kennedys death. Fox went the low road in there attempt to show that the Times was unfair to a conservative. No one on either side of the aisle would deny Kennedys problems (including the Times) but he used his social and political position to do good for the many who needed it.
          I could give a rats behind about Helms. He's gone. and there's no need to choose one over the other. At the end of the day, it's your reputation that you leave behind and that should be what you're remembered for and not compared to.
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    • Author by wookie (August 30, 2009 5:28 pm ET)
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      How are the obits wrong?
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      • Author by mk3872 (August 30, 2009 5:37 pm ET)
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        Once you transplant a pragmatic mind with that of a conservative doodle-bag, then one can understand that you must spout out effusive praise for a divisive anti-equal-rights conservative politician like Jesse Helms in order to be considered "fair & balanced".

        Fair & balanced of the Fox News sort is quite a high bar, ya know ...
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        • Author by fairliberal (August 31, 2009 2:20 am ET)
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          I wonder if there will be effusive praise for a divisive anti-equal-rights liberal politician like Robert Byrd?
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          • Author by magnolialover (August 31, 2009 8:15 am ET)
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            Byrd was anti equal rights?

            Wrong again.
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            • Author by fairliberal (August 31, 2009 1:51 pm ET)
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              Sure he was, he led the charge against the civil rights act, didn't he? Wasn't that supposed to guarantee equal rights for all, regardless of color?
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          • Author by Brabantio (August 31, 2009 8:25 am ET)
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            I like the pairing of "anti-equal-rights" and "liberal". That's a bit like "prudish porn star".
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          • Author by mk3872 (August 31, 2009 10:13 am ET)
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            Who knows? Pretty typical for a right-wingie, though, to obsess over such mundane things ... I guess we'll just have to wait for the Senator from WV to kick the can before we'll know.

            Man, I just can't wait ...
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    • Author by ProgLib (August 30, 2009 6:13 pm ET)
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      i dont understand the purpose of "NewsBusters"... are they supposed to baselessly point out that the media is too librul by pointing out that they are librul? i mean, they have articles pointing out librul's that say somebody's name wrong or spelling incorrectly. where is the librul media bias in that?
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (August 30, 2009 7:49 pm ET)
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      And Mr Wallace's headstone going to rea
      " Here lies a man who sold his journalistic ethics to the highest bidder "
      and nothing else.
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    • Author by all your eyes (August 30, 2009 8:55 pm ET)
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      Did Juan Williams just say something redeeming? I'm in shock. I didn't know he still had it in him. Doesn't he know that on Fox, thou shalt not speak ill of Jesse Helms?
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      • Author by blk-in-alabam (August 31, 2009 7:17 am ET)
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        Juan Williams has seen the writing on the wall.I think he is getting as much money as he can,then he is going to fade off of fox
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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (August 31, 2009 7:55 am ET)
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      Notice Sammon, said that they should have mentioned something nice about Helms, but he couldn't come up with anything. Yet he came up with a few things about Kennedy that he thought was bad.

      So he ends up doing the exact same thing, he is being critical about.

      Then again, what did Helms ever do that was good?
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    • Author by Jim Rockford (August 31, 2009 8:20 am ET)
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      Jesse Helms was on the wrong side of history, throughout his life, on so many issues.

      Media bias? Remember the massive, positive coverage of Ronald Reagan and his life and views when he died in 2004? That belies the meme they are trying to get going.
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    • Author by newzhound (August 31, 2009 9:28 am ET)
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      The right wingnutz are comparing Sen. Kennedy's obit to Sen. Helms' because they both had decades of service in the US Senate.

      The NYT obits told the truth - and that is not the Times' fault.

      The problem with sticking up for Sen. Helms is that he didn't really accomplish anything. Rather than whine about the two obits - which is the stock-in-trade of NewsBusters - why not point out omissions of fact or actual errors?

      Clay Walters couldn't do that because there weren't any?
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    • Author by newzhound (August 31, 2009 4:45 pm ET)
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      In other news:

      NewsBusters claims the NYT obit of President Abraham Lincoln was much more favorable than the obit of President Jefferson Davis...
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    • Author by lawcaldy9592 (August 31, 2009 8:08 pm ET)
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      Everyone in the world knew who the Kennedys were-Three of his brothers died for this country-1-IN THE WAR AND 2 ASSASINATED ,INCLUDING ONE WHO WAS President of the United States-Jessie Helmes was a conservative bigot that really no-one out of his state paid attention to----------When you are only against things and progress---that will be your eulogy ------When you actually accomplish things that help the citizens ,you will get that eulogy !!!!!!! I CANNOT THINK OF ONE
      REPUBLICAN SENATOR THAT HAS ACCOMPLISHED ANYTHING THAT HELPS THE EVERYDAY PERSON----iT IS THE RESPECT YOU GET IN DEATH THAT COUNTS.
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