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Olbermann on Beck: "'Oligarhy'?  Did Obama steal the letter 'C'? "

August 31, 2009 11:53 pm ET

From the August 31 edition of MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann:

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    • Author by Gary Herstein (September 01, 2009 12:09 am ET)
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      It it even possibul for geNn Bec too Bee eny stoopiter thaaan he alredy iz?
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    • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (September 01, 2009 12:09 am ET)
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      That's it Mr. Dreck...

      I'm challengin' you to a dool!!

      Keith just absolutely destroyed this sniveling, pathetic, conservative fraud.
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    • Author by diamonds (September 01, 2009 2:10 am ET)
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      Would someone explain to me how this is conservative misinformation?

      By the way, I recall Glenn saying all the presidents for a long time have had czars, just not the sheer number that Obama has. Where is your research Olbermann? Purposeful or not, the best you can do is criticize someone... over a spelling error?
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      • Author by skatscan5624 (September 01, 2009 9:31 am ET)
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        But how can you be both a Socialist and have czars?
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      • Author by toombsie (September 01, 2009 9:52 am ET)
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        Olbermann has done plenty of Beck criticism in the past - this is just a segment pointing out how Beck is a moron in general. Even if Beck had spelled "oligarchy" correctly on that chalkboard the sheer act of writing random words in a specific pattern to create a word that you wish to create and then trying to say that signifies some impending doom for the USA should be proof to anyone watching that Beck is an idiot.
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      • Author by skiploader1111 (September 01, 2009 10:12 am ET)
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        Beck is claiming that Obama has or wants an OLIGARCHY. That's misinformation. So are all of the phrases that Beck used to spell OLIGARCHY except for O.
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      • Author by bintx (September 01, 2009 11:55 am ET)
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        There is no such thing as a "czar," they are advisers. The media calls them "czars" and Beck is attempting to play on the association that many of his low information viewers have that "czar" equals "socialist."

        Try doing your own research and quit listening to this high school dropout, "self-educated" COMEDIAN. He's LYING to you and LAUGHING his butt off at you for believing his lies. You are being played.
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      • Author by magnolialover (September 01, 2009 12:19 pm ET)
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        Bush had almost as many "czars" as Obama does. President Bush had over 20 such advisors.
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    • Author by MagCynic (September 01, 2009 2:41 am ET)
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      It's becoming very clear why a guy like Beck can regularly double and triple Olbermann's ratings. I watch this clip expecting something of substance and all I get is four and a half minutes of personal ridicule.
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      • Author by skatscan5624 (September 01, 2009 9:33 am ET)
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        Yep, it's called Fox News is available on every basic cable package, you have to pay more to get MSNBC.
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        • Author by MagCynic (September 01, 2009 2:03 pm ET)
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          Is that true? I get Fox News and MSNBC and don't have to pay anything extra for MSNBC. I'm on DirecTV by the way.
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      • Author by puppienrainbows (September 01, 2009 12:11 pm ET)
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        That's all Keith does! It is his true calling. I'm sure that, as a young girl, keith engaged in these kinds of activities and was re-assured by both of his mothers that this is the correct way to conduct yourself. Growing up and later attending Syracuse university, he honed his ability to engage in one-sided conversations and un-settling diatribes. Congrats, Keith. Rude and crude is your forte.
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        • Author by magnolialover (September 01, 2009 12:21 pm ET)
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          Here, I fixed this for you:

          That's all Beck does! It is his true calling. I'm sure that, as a young girl, Glenda engaged in these kinds of activities and was re-assured by both of his mothers that this is the correct way to conduct yourself. Growing up and later attending no university, he honed his ability to engage in one-sided conversations and un-settling diatribes. Congrats, Glenn. Rude and crude is your forte.
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          • Author by puppienrainbows (September 01, 2009 5:38 pm ET)
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            Thank you magnolialover. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
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    • Author by skiploader1111 (September 01, 2009 3:43 am ET)
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      I don't think that Beck even knows that Teddy Roosevelt's quote is "speak softly" and not "walk softly."

      I wouldn't be surprised if Beck believed that he literally said "walk softly and carry a big stick" and believed that Roosevelt's diplomatic philosophy was to sneak up on other countries and invade. Which would be the only possible interpretation of "walk softly and carry a big stick."
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (September 01, 2009 12:01 pm ET)
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        I'm still laughing like an idiot over this! The image of TR [walking softly] sneaking up behind someone and clubbing them on the head with his big stick... Priceless. I love it!
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (September 01, 2009 7:08 am ET)
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      The "C" was missing because Beck's former sponsor's borrowed it to spell "CRAZY!
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    • Author by dr. matt (September 01, 2009 7:18 am ET)
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      • Author by bhodgkins (September 01, 2009 9:05 am ET)
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        skiploader-Teddy R. was quite found of the African phrase "walk softly but carry a big stick" as well as the more popular "speak softly" which he reworded in a speech. If you the view clip and pay attention, Beck says that the "c" is missing and the next night he was quite pleased that the left-wing bloggers were fooled. Third, Keith says that Nixon and Reagan appointed czars, one apiece, but he fails to mention the nearly 3 dozen that Obama has appointed, some of whom are revolutionaries and communists.
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        • Author by bintx (September 01, 2009 11:51 am ET)
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          There are no folks in the White House called "czars," they are called ADVISERS and ALL presidents have advisers. Try doing your OWN research instead of listening to an ENTERTAINER. Beck is not a bright man, he just knows how to play on people's pre-existing prejudices, fears and bigotries. You are being played.
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          • Author by Matty (September 01, 2009 12:30 pm ET)
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            While I don't disagee with you what their title is. What is the diffrence? You have no problem with the 55 page bill proposed by Jay Rockefeller S.773 giving the whitehouse "emergency" control over the internet. Your ok with Localism taking out most talk radio. I am well aware you disagree with the right. That's fine. You not able to have anyone disagee with you? What if they disagee with you next? Then what? It's not left or right it's about freedom. Sheep.
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        • Author by magnolialover (September 01, 2009 12:23 pm ET)
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          Bush had over 20 so called Czars as well.

          Reagan had more than 1. Carter had more than 1. Nixon had only 1. Clinton had a bunch as well.

          This is nothing new and exciting.

          Which ones are communists (WTF, are we back in the 50's over here?), and which ones are the so called "revolutionaries"?

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      • Author by puppienrainbows (September 01, 2009 12:13 pm ET)
           
        Let's see ya try that with phenolphthalein!
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        • Author by PurpleState (September 01, 2009 1:55 pm ET)
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          What, you were expecting it to be related to Beck in some way?
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    • Author by MJ (September 01, 2009 8:39 am ET)
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      Beck got you, Keith! You failed to mention that the day he left out the "C," he'd said that the one response he'd received from the Obama administration was to stop calling the czars "czars." So, the day after the show, after receiving countless criticisms from bloggers like the ones on this site, he was able to re-add the "C" and say, "See? You can't have OLIGARCHY without the CZARS." But that would have been the whole story. Yeah, media *does* matter, and it'd be really cool if Keith Olbermann were able to start telling the whole story or quoting people accurately once in a while. Oh, and while I'm at it, conservatives haven't been complaining about the title of "czar," they've been complaining about just how many new czars there are under Obama. Clearly, the meaning of "czar" in an American administration is the secondary dictionary meaning: "One having great power or authority." For a fun video detailing the parade of czars in the Obama administration, see http://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#label/Links/123717a42c096c9c.
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      • Author by bintx (September 01, 2009 11:49 am ET)
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        Czar is a media creation. The term is actually "adviser," and EVERY president has a team of advisers.

        Why don't you read more and learn more about how our government works ON YOUR OWN instead of listening to a highly paid Entertainer? Beck calls himself a "rodeo clown," which I personally find offensive. Rodeo clowns have courage and strength. Beck is just a petty little liar who loves to rile up uninformed, intellectually incurious folks who think he is part of the NEWS media.
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        • Author by PurpleState (September 01, 2009 11:56 am ET)
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          More importantly, Beck didn't officially spell OLIGARCHY right the second time.

          After all, you can spell "czar" as "tsar" sometimes.

          So sometimes it's OLIGARCHY and sometimes it's OLIGARTHY.
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        • Author by Matty (September 01, 2009 12:21 pm ET)
             
          Speaking of intellectually incurious folks. The term as for how is is used in our sytem was coined by Joe Bidon. So just out of curiousty what part of personal freedom, being responsible for yourself and your family. The freemdom to disagree with another are you against? Just curious.
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          • Author by PurpleState (September 01, 2009 1:33 pm ET)
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            Biden coined the use of the word "czar"? Can you provide a little backup on that? I'm curious what you mean here.
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    • Author by Matty (September 01, 2009 10:01 am ET)
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      Really this was supposed to be this moron slapping Glenn down. What was the point? What information that Glenn is putting out was discredited? What Czar / special advisor has been proven to really have all of our best intrests at heart. All of you sheep are actually ok with S.773 that would give the whitehouse control of the internet. All of you sheep are ok with all radio being taxed at 100% of their operation cost and basicly shut down. You 100% are against free speech. So one of you please explain to me what your plan is when they disagree with you?
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      • Author by bintx (September 01, 2009 11:47 am ET)
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        If you are watching Beck and believing his lies, then it would be YOU who are the sheep.
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        • Author by Matty (September 01, 2009 12:08 pm ET)
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          I ask again friend which part of the information that Beck has Olbermann discredited? Oh yeah that would be none. Sheep.....
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      • Author by magnolialover (September 01, 2009 12:32 pm ET)
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        S.773 doesn't give control of the internet to the White House. That's just more fear mongering. I suggest you actually read the proposed bill (it hasn't been introduced yet, or it's not been made clear if it will or not), as it is a cyber security bill.

        What special adviser or "Czar" do you think doens't have our best interests at heart? You guys keep complaining about the so called Czars, yet provide no information as to what they've done, or what they're advising on that you're so violently against. Please provide specific examples of why you have a problem with them. And remember, they don't make laws, they don't write laws, they advise the President, just like lots of other people.

        He proposed not a tax, but a small increase in the licensing fees to help pay for public radio (which is not liberal as everyone would like to believe). Guess what? It's not going to shut down any stations if they continue to make the profits that they claim to make, and also, he stated that he'd like to get the funding out of Congress, ie, having the taxpayers pay for it. I would assume that this would be something that conservatives would LOVE.

        Radio does not constitute free speech. It is regulated and licensed speech. The government has made no laws abridging free speech.
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      • Author by PurpleState (September 01, 2009 12:33 pm ET)
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        S.773: Cybersecurity Act of 2009.

        Read it for yourself, but it details how the President and Secretary of Commerce will establish panels for SECURITY of Internet, not control. Basically, it sounds to me that they are developing a police force for securing the Internet for illegal actions. As much as it might kill you to think that there will be a police force on-line, this bill sounds like it would be required to keep federal sites secure and protection for small-to-medium businesses.

        The "100% tax" on "all radio":

        "Mark Lloyd, newly appointed Chief Diversity Officer of the Federal Communications Commission, has called for making private broadcasting companies pay licensing fees equal to their total operating costs to allow public broadcasting outlets to spend the same on their operations as the private companies do."
        Sounds to me like he's trying to level the playing field, isn't he? Since this is just a proposal, there's nothing here saying this is a law yet, but I'll admit I am not 100% educated on this, nor am I believing this is a tax on ALL radio.

        Your claim that we are all against free speech:

        BASELESS. I for one am glad we have free speech, and I for one won't stand in the way of crazy talk being said. I just will not agree with it, nor will I stand out of the way if such speech violates my own freedom. I will not stand for my identity to be branded as "a sheep".

        In other words, I'll stand by your right to call us "sheep", but I will protest to my dying breath against you that I fit YOUR label.
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        • Author by Matty (September 01, 2009 1:04 pm ET)
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          As for the bill. I have read it thanks. Suppose you didn't mind the patriot act either? Mark Lloyd leveling the playing field, now that is funny. It's all about localism. Which would in effect shut down the majority of the national talk shows. While I understand you are on the opposite side of the political spectrum. Do you honestly have a problem with opposing view? As for my earlier post. I meant it to be a question reguarding free speech. This isn't a right left issue. The thing that I as well as Gelnn are trying to put is our Goverment is far to intrusive. The current administration is making a very dangerous power grab. I want my children to have the oppurtunity to grow up and enjoy every oppurtunity that was available to me. Do you feel diffrent? My personal default would be freedom. I'm thankful you will protest my freedom to help make others think.
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          • Author by PurpleState (September 01, 2009 1:28 pm ET)
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            No, you misunderstand my protest. I said I'd give you the right and freedom to call me a label; I won't demand you take those words back. I give you the right to say I'm a sheep, but I have every right to say you're wrong. Just as I would ask that you give me the right to call you one of Glenn Beck's sheep.
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            • Author by Matty (September 01, 2009 3:10 pm ET)
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              fair enough there purple state. You didn't answer any of my questions though.....
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              • Author by PurpleState (September 01, 2009 7:26 pm ET)
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                Fair enough.

                In all honesty, I have a difficult opinion on the Patriot Act. I understand its uses and advantages, but I also understand the abuses that have been committed through it. That being said, I believe the government enough to ask for the Cybersecurity Act to do its job and not commit any abuses that have been claimed for the Patriot Act. Yes, it sounds hypocritical, but I'm willing to take the chances with a government I voted for.

                As far as opposing views go, I try to trust opinions in conversations more than in media. If someone has an opposing view and has the time and citation to back up their views, I tend to appreciate their opinions more. If they merely pop off their opinions without providing proof or some sort of way to back up their words, I tend to half-heartedly listen. I won't tell people to stop making their claims if they are baseless, but I guess the scientist in me dies a little when I hear them.

                Of course, if those opposing views are directed at my lifestyle, like I said, I'll defend myself to the teeth.
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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (September 01, 2009 2:19 pm ET)
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            The thing that I as well as Gelnn are trying to put is our Goverment is far to intrusive.

            I'm glad to heat that you want to keep abortion legal, allow gay marriage, support the ALCU... (let's see anything, else?) Oh yeah: stop teacher-led prayer in public schools.
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            • Author by Matty (September 01, 2009 3:09 pm ET)
                 
              Wasn't aware I was trying to make it illeagal. However, tax dollars absolutely should not be used to pay for them. As for Gay marriage, it's a state right not to be decided by federal govt. For me personally no, however I'm all for civil unions. If all we are talking about is the same protections then that is reasonable. It being a attack on religon would be the only reason this wasn't acceptable ( my opinion). Didn't realize the ACLU was a Govt program..... I suppose for the prayer would have to see the federal law where that was mandated. I'm looking through my notes can't find it anywere........
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              • Author by NiceguyEddie (September 02, 2009 8:12 am ET)
                   
                I don't know your political leaning s from Adams, but you echo the mantra and philosophy of the republicans who (1) DO work to make abortion illegal; (2) Are NOT fro civil unions. And BTW, it is NOT a "State's Rights" issue, since most of the laws governing (and protecting the rights of) marriage are FEDERAL - Tax law, Estate Law, Power of ttourney / Medical Decision Law, Joint Property Ownership... only a very small percentage fo laws addressing marriage are made at the state level: So YOU'RE WRONG there. (And there's no 'attack' on religion by it - that's absurd nonsense.); (3) FIGHT the ACLU's efforts to make gov't less intrusive. That's what they DO, but for some reason, despite their philosphy, which you echoed, they're constatntly fighting the ACLU. Ironic really. (Well not really, HYPOCRITICAL is more like it.); (4) Want to ALLOW teacher led prayer in school, which used my tax dollars to enable a person in an authority position to impose their religious interpretations onto MY children. THAT'S interference.

                My point is that the Republicans love to talk of gov't interference, but they're only concerned when it affects CORPORATIONS. They have no problem at all interfering in the lives of it's CITIZENS, despite thier hypocritical rhetoric.
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    • Author by PurpleState (September 01, 2009 10:27 am ET)
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      Keith made a great observation there.

      Glenn, rehearse!! If you practice what you are going to say before the crowd and don't go off topic, you might actually get an even bigger television audience!

      And you might actually be respectable.
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    • Author by craig98607271 (September 01, 2009 12:14 pm ET)
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      while beck is a easy target and could be a bigger scaremonger than evn rush or hanity i thought the pat boone choice was pretty lame. are we supposed to not use the word black because it means im a racist?
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    • Author by cowalker (September 01, 2009 4:05 pm ET)
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      Oligarhs, morans and muslins, oh, my!
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