At the end of another Van Jones-is-a-commie diatribe, Beck asks, "Wasn't" Hugo Chavez "democratically elected?"
September 01, 2009 7:06 pm ET
From the September 1 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:
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Apparently he spoke about Jones on July 23rd.
Beck called Obama a "racist" on July 28th.
So I'm afraid Beck did attack Jones before the boycott, unless the boycott was started before Beck's claim.
http://www.colorofchange.org/campaigns.html
scroll down to "Demand Fox stop race baiting and fear mongering" date stamped 6.20.2009
They joined the dailykos boycott of Faux on or around 6.30.2009.
From the way I figure it, Beck's throwing of the stones at Van Jones could have come from Fox looking to strike back at ColorOfChange, but Beck's comments then likely spurred the branch boycott of Glenn's show. In turn, Beck then ratchets up the venom at Van Jones.
Makes some sense.
Beck is a wise, wise man. He sees the threat this Green Czar poses on the general public and he is doing this best to put a stop to his out of control power grab.
Please, enlighten us with the 6/10 democratic societies destroyed by the big bad Green Advisors.
But something tells me you pulled that right outta your backside.
Hint: this isn't FoxNation.
If it was a joke, it went right over my head.
I think I've spent too much time at Fox Nation tonight to catch the sarcasm here.
Fry 'er, Chuck!
('recovering' Catholic)
Its funny how he decided to put it in context despite the context totally undermining the gravity of his claim.
When is he getting booted?
Chavez = boogeyman for the right wingers mostly because Chavez didn't like Bush. Chavez likes the US, hates or hated Bush.
Better yet when I need a EMERGENCY surgery or the latest drugs I guess you will go to one of those countries next time. You know since the HEALTH CARE IS SOOOOOOOOO GREAT!!!
You've had problems with medical service there? Where do they rate compared to the US rating of 37th?
If Obama is so terrible, why are you still living in this country?
I don't expect you to answer, but I have hope that it will somehow demonstrate how weak your point was.
As a veteran I severed, defended this country and its principals and I expect the current government to read and abide by the rules laid down by the founding fathers. But instead they want to interpret and rewrite them so as to make the government in charge of everything.
Why is it every time there is a problem with some thing you group of people feel the ONLY person to solve it is the
government?
Again if the government would stop the over regulation of the health care industry that they have slowly strangled over many years we could see REAL reform.
For example cap lawsuits, allow you to purchase insurance form other states not just form someone in your state, allow a FULL TAX deduction on ALL MEDICAL EXPENSES and that is just a beginning
Now, if you're accusing MMFA of taking something out of context (a charge leveled often, but never proven), then by all means show us what Beck said outside the MMFA clip that changes the thrust of his statement.
That's what someone with common sense would do. I'm not betting on your success at it, however.
"I'm Just Asking"
It's spells BEWAR! Creepy, huh...? ;>)
BTW, Glenn, in the White House they're laughing at you...just like the rest of us are doing.
There's something to be said for doing things for the greater good, at least once in a while... and good karma's not so bad, either!
(/hippie mode)
Slavery was part of the national economy. Its not isolatable to those who recieved the initial economic benifits of that slavery.
Those advantagous that you recieved being of a non black hertitage are non negotiable then.
Why?
Freedom from being a considered a threat because of your melenine content and clothing selection.
Freedom from rascist hate.
Freedom from racial profiling.
Freedom from being jerked arround in your own home by law enforcement officials.
Freedom from being talented and honing that talent to find the most important factor is what color you are. Freedom from people finding that dispite your worth and abilities, there's some reason why the white power structure has determined eggactly how far you you will be able to succeed.
Having fear and hatred of what you represent pass down from generation to generation.
Just what were you defending against losing in the previous post if there's no advantage to your position over another ethnic group anyway.
I'm sooo sick of the "my family didn't own slaves" bull crap!!!
YOU are an AMERICAN and you get the "good" America with the "bad" America!!! Your family didn't have to own slaves, YOUR COUNTRY DID!!!!
Rather, question with lunacy, paranoia, and racist rants.
And no one attacked Bush for at least his first 2 years in office until most people realized what a collossal, magnificent, warmongering, lying dolt the man was/is.
And that was even AFTER he was asleep at the switch when planes started turning around in the sky.
It's what you liberals did the past 8 years under Bush. ... bringing to the forefront anything the government did that appeared unethical and/or illegal.
OK, Magcynic, I've added some bolding to show you the difference. You're welcome.
May be over stepping? MAY?
YOU have absolutely ZERO proof that the government is doing ANYTHING, yet you want folks to protest Obama for something he MAY do?
One word....insanity!
A communist advisor to the prez. Niether illegal nor true but whats wrong with another noble lie eh?
I've come to expect Republicans to lie, but "Jones is a communist"? That's pretty pathetic!
Here is the context of the Jones "communist" comment:
Jones first moved to the Bay Area in the spring of 1992, when the San Francisco-based Lawyers Committee for Human Rights hired a batch of law students to act as legal observers during the trial of Rodney King's assailants. Eva Paterson, who was then the committee's executive director.
Patterson got to know Jones over the coming months, and enjoyed having the young radical in her office. "He was a kid then, really," she said. "He was brilliant, pretty feisty, pretty in your face, but that's how you are when you're young. Just a force of nature."
Jones had planned to move to Washington, DC, and had already landed a job and an apartment there. But in jail, he said, "I met all these young radical people of color -- I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of.'" Although he already had a plane ticket, he decided to stay in San Francisco. "I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary." In the months that followed, he let go of any lingering thoughts that he might fit in with the status quo. "I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th," he said. "By August, I was a communist."
Paterson gave him one piece of advice. "I think I counseled him to be diplomatic," Paterson said. "I tried to convince him that you could be passionate, but you didn't have to talk about your opponent's mother. That you could be very, very committed and say what you had to say so that people listened."
First, he discarded the hostility and antagonism with which he had previously greeted the world, which he said was part of the ego-driven romance of being seen as revolutionary. "Before, we would fight anybody, any time," he said. "No concession was good enough; we never said 'Thank you.' Now, I put the issues and constituencies first. I'll work with anybody, I'll fight anybody if it will push our issues forward. ... I'm willing to forgo the cheap satisfaction of the radical pose for the deep satisfaction of radical ends."
Devising a new strategy for the left went hand-in-hand with finding a new approach in his personal life and relationships. Jones said he arrived at that by harking back to his roots. Although he had spent many childhood summers in "sweaty black churches," and in college had discovered the black liberation theology that reinterprets the Christ story as an anticolonial struggle, he had pulled away from spirituality during his communist days. During his 2000 crisis, he looked for answers in Buddhism, the philosophy known as deep ecology, and at open-minded institutions such as the East Bay Church of Religious Science.
Van Jones renounced his rowdy black nationalism on the way toward becoming an influential leader of the new progressive politics...
More into a regulated free market.
When did he disbelieve in individual freedom and private property. Its not part and parcell of all communist political and economic thinking.
Plenty of private property in china, granted not a lot of personal liberty. They either come to terms with allowing it in their people, or they will have their own type of revolution to secure it.